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Aerials
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  • 05-10-2008 11:00 PM 737670

    • denis
    • Joined on Jan 25, 2004
    • Burnaby BC
    • Posts 7

    Aerials

    Does anyone make aerials?  I've checked various parts suppliers and have yet to find anything.

    Are they available, or is this something that must be scratch built?  If the latter, is there an "easy"

    way of doing this?  Looking for a three section in the up position, as well as the 45 degree angle type as found on 57 Chevies, and other cars of that era.

    Thanks

    Denis 

     

    I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
  • 05-11-2008 07:16 AM 737751 in reply to 737670

    Re: Aerials

    denis:

    Does anyone make aerials?  I've checked various parts suppliers and have yet to find anything.

    Are they available, or is this something that must be scratch built?  If the latter, is there an "easy"

    way of doing this?  Looking for a three section in the up position, as well as the 45 degree angle type as found on 57 Chevies, and other cars of that era.

    Thanks

    Denis

     

     Denis,

     A tough call.  Bear in mind that you would be looking at, most likely, micro-sized telescoping metal tubing (Those old antenna's are 2-sections of telescoping tubing, the larger size around 1/4", with perhaps a section of 1/8" metal rod capped with a small ball to minimize the "poking" hazard, all slipping one size into the ajacent larger size).  At say, 1/4" actual diameter for the largest, that translates into .005" diameter, which is probably only available in surgical stainless steel, or a hypodermic needle size.  While this might be neat, I just spent about 15 minutes with Google, searching this stuff out, the only supplies I could find being a supplier to the medical/scientific industries, and then only in large quantities (30" lengths, pkg's of 5, starting out at over $30 per package (kinda expensive for a model car, I think).  Also, in many places, purchasing hypodermic needles may well require a doctor's prescription, say for use injecting insulin by diabetics (laws regarding the sale or distribution of what could be considered "drug paraphernalia).

    In short, it might be about as easy to forget trying to make exact scale telescoping antennae, and go with "music wire", which is spring steel, and comes in diameters down to at least .010" (which is a 1/25 scale quarter inch, BTW).  This can be polished to a bright finish, if you are careful (it comes in 3' lengths, made by K&S (the brass tubing folks), and should be in any well stocked LHS having a good radio control model department.  Another possibility--and I've done this in the past, is to use a fine sewing needle--those are very nicely polished and plated, and can be cut to length, even cutting away the sharp point.

     For the little chrome ball at the end of the antenna, I've had some good luck with just a tiny drop of epoxy on the tip of the model antenna, with just a touch of Testors silver paint on it--looks pretty convincing to me, at least.

     Even though you wouldn't get that "stepped look" of a telescoping antenna, the small size and shiny look certainly would outrank any of the plastic kit antennae in my book!

     Biscuitbuilder1

  • 05-11-2008 08:32 AM 737764 in reply to 737670

    Re: Aerials

    If you're really a glutton for punishment, another way to make the telescoping look it to start with a piece of wire the full length of the antenna, and wrap thin strips of foil cut to different (shorter) lengths around it to create the sleeves.  If you can get the strips smoothly attached to the wire, the vertical seam will be almost invisible in the reflections.

  • 05-12-2008 12:25 PM 738225 in reply to 737764

    Re: Aerials

    I'm able to make the "stepped" antennae by placing wire in a drill, turning the drill on low speed, and using a grinding wheel in a Dremel. Grind the narrowest diameter first (don't forget the button on the end) then the mid section.

    "In order to teach a dog, you must first be smarter than the dog" P.R. Ferguson
  • 05-12-2008 06:56 PM 738372 in reply to 737751

    • denis
    • Joined on Jan 25, 2004
    • Burnaby BC
    • Posts 7

    Re: Aerials

    Thank you for your reply Mr. Biscuitbuilder1, I hadn't thought of using sewing needles.

    Being a single guy I have one of those round plastic discs full of various sizes of needles,

    in case I ever wanted to sew on a button.

    Denis 

    I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
  • 05-12-2008 09:23 PM 738450 in reply to 737670

    Re: Aerials

    Take a piece of extremely fine wiring, strip the outer covering off about halfway down, dip the tip in some glue to give it the little ball on the end, and paint it silver.

     

    Scalefinishes.com
  • 05-28-2008 12:56 PM 743850 in reply to 738450

    Re: Aerials

    I make antannas in 1/25 scale. I have the Tear Drop Antanna also. 

     

          Jim

    Yes, I build model vehicles. Plus add alot of detail to them as while.

    Sheriff: Boss, you tell them..

    Boss: I didn't answer the phone numhead.. you did!
  • 06-02-2008 11:57 PM 745456 in reply to 737670

    • Stew
    • Joined on Jul 28, 2007
    • Smokey Point, WA
    • Posts 218

    Re: Aerials

    Also, in many places, purchasing hypodermic needles may well require a doctor's prescription, say for use injecting insulin by diabetics (laws regarding the sale or distribution of what could be considered "drug paraphernalia).

    If you do want to make a functional antenna using hypodermic needles, they are pretty easy to get for free. A while back I was out running errands and had a blood blister I needed to drain. I stopped in a Rite Aid pharmacy and asked the pharmacist if I could have a needle to pop a blood blister, he asked "what size would you like?", I said "little" and he handed me one and I was on my way.

    Stew.

    On the bench: 79 Mustang Pace Car, 79 Trans Am, 1973 vintage Fire Iron designed by Tom Daniel

    In the queue: 85 Mercedes 190E AMG, 1/16 82 Camaro Berlinetta
  • 09-01-2008 11:48 PM 768724 in reply to 737670

    Re: Aerials

    "That cars now on blocks, But that car still rocks ! ";(Chevette by Audio Adrenaline)
  • 12-09-2008 04:49 PM 792018 in reply to 737670

    Re: Aerials

    I use Pins.  I cut the point off and dip it to get a small ball on the tip, then I paint the hat part black, when it dries I lightly sand the edge to get the Silver around the base and glue it to the car. 

  • 12-31-2008 12:42 PM 797581 in reply to 737670

    • bdowns
    • Joined on Sep 11, 2007
    • Cincinnati
    • Posts 130

    Re: Aerials

    Guitar strings work great for this but I'm not sure how I'd do the telescoping part. In 1/25th scale a single piece of wire looks fine usually. A drop of glue on the one end and paint it silver (somebody else already mentioned this. Maybe for the telescoping part you could use very small styrene tubing with a piece of guitar string? This is the sort of thing that makes the hobby fun, wanting a particular detail and then figuring out how to make it. "Everything's a model car part" as a buddy always says.

    Bruce

    24th scale Concours man
  • 12-31-2008 01:10 PM 797589 in reply to 737670

    Re: Aerials

    The most detailed one I seen is using spru and alot of luck and time..I heard about a guy using a toothpick and some files and a dipping in crome paint also.I build tunners and the need for the old style is gone , now theres shark fins and micro recivers,very ez to build.

    "ITS BETTER TO LIVE ONE DAY AS A LION THEN THE REST OF YOUR LIFE AS A LAMB" from the desk of Dr. S.G.Oppenheimer Sr.
  • 01-01-2009 01:54 PM 797837 in reply to 737670

    • gphkkh
    • Joined on Aug 14, 2007
    • Richmond, VA
    • Posts 326

    Re: Aerials

    I'm not at home right now to find it but SA had an article in tech tips on making a scale telescoping antenna using very small diameter tubing and guitar wire.  You do read SA don't you?

    Gary

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