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How do you cure your paint?
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:03 PM
Here I am having just painted 16 pieces of body work for my Enzo Ferrari last night. Normally I will let painted parts sit for several days before working with them. I'm experimenting with forced drying techniques to speed the process up. Last time I did this I put a 1970 Superbee in the oven at 200 degrees for 15 minutes, that was the last of that model. This time I'm using a large Tupperware storage container and a hairdryer. I heat the parts up inside the container then cover it, every 15 min or so I reheat the area. so far so good.

anyone else try to speed up this painfully long process?

Darren
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Posted by SoCalCarCulture on Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:48 PM
It's a whole lot easier to use an electric Dehydrator, any of the commercially available brands should work. Most major discount store have these. Mine is a Mr. Coffee brand that I purchased about 10 years ago, it's circular and came with multiple shallow trays. I bought a few extra trays and cut the centers out of a few to get enough height for tall bodies, etc.

Usually a few hours in one of these and your paint will be dry, enamels may take longer to cure, it varies by paint type and how much paint you've applied.

Let's hear from the rest of you who use Dehydrators to cure your paint
Dave Lindsay http://www.socalcarculture.com
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Posted by camaroman on Saturday, November 22, 2003 11:11 PM
darren,
I too use a dehydrator to dry my paint. It works great on every type of paint I have tried so far. Especially primer. Mine was given to me by my wife's aunt . Although they are relativly inexpensive, I would recommend Yard/ Garage sales . Money Saved is Plastic Bought!
camaroman
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Posted by mach12003 on Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:06 AM
I let mine cure the natural way.... , just let it dry. For spraying I use either PlastiKote, Duplicolor (automotive paints) or Tamiya synthetic lacquer. The PlastiKote and Duplicotor dry/harden so fast that dust is usually not a problem unless it was on the car to start with and I can polish it out the next day with no problems. Tamiya does take a little longer to dry thuroughly but the outer layer seems to dry quick enough that dust doesn't become a problem.

Eric
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:05 AM
A food dehydrator, now why didn't I think of that! I think I will scan a few yard sales for one. If not then it's off too wally world to see what I can find.

I sprayed 2 coats of Testors white primer and 3 coats of Testors Italian red. After 24 hours it was still soft. After a little while with a hair dryer it hardened up enough too handle. I still will leave it for another 2-3 days before beginning the polishing process just to be safe. This is the longest drying paint I have ever used.

As far as dust goes, I paint my parts and immediatiely place them in to the large Tupperware container and close the lid. I have never had a problem with dust what so ever.


Thanks for the tip guys

Darren

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:21 AM
Now I have a use for that food dehydrater I bought the wife...which has been used only once! Thanks
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Posted by FIREMODELMAN on Monday, November 24, 2003 3:07 AM
thats a good idea, but what if your model comes out smelling like beef jerkyTongueLaughTongueLaughi'm just being a horses---Big Smile

Dave http://public.fotki.com/FIREMODELMAN/

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Posted by ThomasA3D on Monday, November 24, 2003 3:46 AM
I paint with automotive laquers and they are "handling dry" within an hour or so, but i sometimes put the model in a box with a paper towel over and place the box below the water heater - its about 30+35°C all the time - the paint is rock-hard within a couple of days.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:57 PM
before a spray I put the pieces under a heat lamp for 15mins then spray and put them back under for about 30 mins . . . you can get the heat lamps for a couple of bucks and a cheap (metal) lamp stand . . . if you get a stand with too much plastic bits they tend to melt and warp from the heat of the lamp . . get them at any discount hardware store!
tends to speed up drying but as far as gassing out . . . still wait a couple of days before polishing
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:01 PM
cure my paint?????????????


I didn't even know it was sick!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by kevlar86 on Friday, November 28, 2003 10:47 AM
I cant wait to try the dehydrator idea. Yet another great tip ive learned by being here. Big Smile
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Posted by johnnyjewel on Friday, May 26, 2017 7:38 PM

I just painted my model with automotive paint I had O'Reilley's mix to match the original paint on an '86 Vanagon, "Ful-Thane Urethane" (thinned well - 2:1, paint to thinner - with acrylic lacquer thinner). The paint came out beautiful - good coverage, nice gloss, BUT 2 days later and it is still tacky. My first experience with this type of paint. What could I have done wrong? Did I put 2nd and 3rd coats on too soon? What should I do now to finish this paint work?

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Posted by chucky on Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM

I've never used this paint brand and type myself, but is it possible that a catalyst is required since it's a urethane? It's pretty unusual for paint to still be tacky after that length of time. I know other brands of automotive urethanes require special reducers and catalyst. On the bright side, if you do need to dip and strip it, the paint should probably come off pretty easily. 

chucky

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Posted by johnnyjewel on Friday, May 26, 2017 7:58 PM
Thanks much for the reply. I guess I'll let it "cure(?)" for a day or 2 and do what you suggest. THX!
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Posted by High octane on Friday, May 26, 2017 10:55 PM

I'm a pretty slow builder so I just let my painted bodies "air dry" while I work on othe parts of that kit, or another kit altogether. I don't have a dehydrator, nor do I have room for one either.

High octane

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Friday, May 26, 2017 11:10 PM

Hey you old car photo guy? Remember me? Gslmcc,San Diego, those fabulouseFord's Anaheim, hot rod veneers show Anaheim, how the hec K you been Dave Brickwood 

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Friday, May 26, 2017 11:11 PM

Van show aneheim

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Posted by mini man on Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:59 AM

Anonymous
Here I am having just painted 16 pieces of body work for my Enzo Ferrari last night. Normally I will let painted parts sit for several days before working with them. I'm experimenting with forced drying techniques to speed the process up. Last time I did this I put a 1970 Superbee in the oven at 200 degrees for 15 minutes, that was the last of that model. This time I'm using a large Tupperware storage container and a hairdryer. I heat the parts up inside the container then cover it, every 15 min or so I reheat the area. so far so good.

anyone else try to speed up this painfully long process?

Darren
 

I learned that mstake the hard way myself,i was a rally Fiat and wanted to create some mild damage so bunged it in the oven on a low temp....Still have the front fenders though...Crying 

 

Nigel.

 

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:12 PM

For me I've learned that so many things besides paint takes time to dry, so I don't hurry them.

I use several different types of glue, and those take time to dry. I use several different types and brands of primers and all those take time to dry. I also use 3 or 4 different body fillers - and you guessed it, they all take different times to dry - sometimes a whole day.

And of course I use different paints. Enamels, lacquers, acrlic lacquers, and automotive enamel eurathanes, single and two stage, and of course once again they all have a different curing time.

I myself have learned through trial and error and some downright terrible mistakes not to rush any of these, but to let them dry the way they were meant to - set aside to not only dry but to cure - there's a difference..

I set mine aside and work on another model. I usually have between 5 and 10 mo0dels going at one time, with all of those at some point in a drying stage, and so when something needs to dry, I just set it aside and grab another one.

I have built in rotation style for a dozen years at least, and I don't rush anything, and boy for me at least, they sure come out nice, and it's so much more relaxing not to rush things and be in a hurry.

Just a different perspective, not any criticism of anyone intended Smile.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Johnt on Monday, May 29, 2017 8:53 AM

Testors gloss enamel paints take a crazy long time to dry. I painted a chassis gloss black four days ago and it's still tacky. Its been in an air conditioned room since then. I threw every can of Testors enamel I own in the garbage. I do like their laqcqer paint though, but I'll never buy another can of their enamel again.

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Posted by 195X on Monday, May 29, 2017 11:05 PM

Good things take time. Great things take patience.

My favorite color is clear. I am also ambidexterous, I can screw up equally well with either hand. I am 53 years old and been building for most of that time. :)

On the bench... somewhere. Pink Panther show car, 1978 Dodge Magnum Charger Daytona Midnight edition SE 300. Mongrel T.

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Monday, May 29, 2017 11:21 PM

Absolutely magnificent things take time patience and a little presence of insanity 

Moparlover64

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Posted by 195X on Monday, May 29, 2017 11:23 PM

Moparlover64

Absolutely magnificent things take time patience and a little presence of insanity 

 

I got extra insanity in stock if anyone needs it.

My favorite color is clear. I am also ambidexterous, I can screw up equally well with either hand. I am 53 years old and been building for most of that time. :)

On the bench... somewhere. Pink Panther show car, 1978 Dodge Magnum Charger Daytona Midnight edition SE 300. Mongrel T.

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Monday, May 29, 2017 11:28 PM

I fired my VA psycharitrist but the paperwork was signed off years ago. Yup I'm coocoo for cocoa. Puffs. By. Associations and model car fumes

Moparlover64

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Posted by 195X on Monday, May 29, 2017 11:49 PM

Moparlover64

I fired my VA psycharitrist but the paperwork was signed off years ago. Yup I'm coocoo for cocoa. Puffs. By. Associations and model car fumes

 

I got you beat. I've been through so many therapists, they've started their own support group. I used to be on meds to get rid of the voices in my head. They worked but.. now I don't have anyone to talk to. BUT.. we're supposed to be talking about curing paint. Modeling is a disease I don't want cured of. ;)

My favorite color is clear. I am also ambidexterous, I can screw up equally well with either hand. I am 53 years old and been building for most of that time. :)

On the bench... somewhere. Pink Panther show car, 1978 Dodge Magnum Charger Daytona Midnight edition SE 300. Mongrel T.

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:40 AM

195X
 
Moparlover64

I fired my VA psycharitrist but the paperwork was signed off years ago. Yup I'm coocoo for cocoa. Puffs. By. Associations and model car fumes

 

 

 

I got you beat. I've been through so many therapists, they've started their own support group. I used to be on meds to get rid of the voices in my head. They worked but.. now I don't have anyone to talk to. BUT.. we're supposed to be talking about curing paint. Modeling is a disease I don't want cured of. ;)

 

 

I love this, and you other guys too Thumbs Up. I thought I was the only "fruitcake" here. I feel right at home now Smile, Wink & Grin

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:29 AM

Yea that was just my VA Drs I still have. The nightmares and voices. The civilian Drs are just changing the channels I choose to ignore the voices unless I'm bored then I watch paint dry lol it's fun 

Moparlover64

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:35 AM

Yup bunch of broke down old soldiers with car fantasies and plastic addictions instead of expired opioids 

Moparlover64

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Posted by 195X on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:33 AM

 

 

I love this, and you other guys too Thumbs Up. I thought I was the only "fruitcake" here. I feel right at home now Smile, Wink & Grin

 

[/quote]Well my momma always said "Life is like a box of cereal. You're either a fruit, a nut, or a flake!" ;)

My favorite color is clear. I am also ambidexterous, I can screw up equally well with either hand. I am 53 years old and been building for most of that time. :)

On the bench... somewhere. Pink Panther show car, 1978 Dodge Magnum Charger Daytona Midnight edition SE 300. Mongrel T.

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