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Whats the best spray can primer to use for Dupli Color paint.

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Whats the best spray can primer to use for Dupli Color paint.
Posted by Oldcarfan27 on Friday, February 02, 2018 10:17 AM

This topic has probably been covered here before, but I'm new to this forum.

What is the best, thinnest, safest spray can primer to use for Dupli Color paint? I used to use the old formula Krylon (the can had the three colored dots on the can) it used to go on quickly and would sand out great, but since they changed it to the 2x coverage formula it goes in too thick and wont sand.

I've tried using Dupli Color primers, but it's hit or miss with theirs - usually it crazes the plastic,  takes too long to dry or is very hard to color sand (it clogs the sandpaper too fast).

What do you have the best success with? Remember, I use automotive lacquer so make sure it's compatible. 

Thanks for your help. 

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Posted by 93slammer on Friday, February 02, 2018 11:40 AM

Weird, I've never had a problem with Dupli-Color primer. 

Tamyia primers (white & gray) are both great, but pricy. If you are near a Hobby Lobby, they have it and you can use the 40% coupon.

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Posted by High octane on Friday, February 02, 2018 12:09 PM

I've been using Tamiya primers for years now as they're compatable with Tamiya, Testors, MCW, Black Gold, and Dupli-Color paints and seem to work good for me. I like the fact that it goes on thinly and does not build up around the chrome trim, emblems, scripts, etc.

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Posted by mrmike on Friday, February 02, 2018 12:18 PM

I recently had issues with Tamiya primers as I think they may have change their formulations.  I used Testors One Coat Lacquer De Ja Blue over Tamiya Fine Surface White Primer and the chemically hot paint ate through the primer, but didn't craze the plastic.  I got a can of Dupli-Color Sandable White Primer and I have not had any issues since.  I get twice as much Dupli-Color Primer for less than the cost of Tamiya Primer.

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Posted by Big Gary on Friday, February 02, 2018 2:00 PM
I use WalMart primer. It costs about a dollar, sprays nice, and I've never had any issues, no matter the paint over the top. I use Testors, Krylon, Valspar, and a couple of off brands.
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Posted by Oldcarfan27 on Friday, February 02, 2018 2:24 PM

Big Gary
I use WalMart primer. It costs about a dollar, sprays nice, and I've never had any issues, no matter the paint over the top. I use Testors, Krylon, Valspar, and a couple of off brands.
 

But have you used automotive lacquer over it?

BTW - Gary forward me your mailing address so I can send you those wheels and tires.

"I keep trying to complete my junkyard diorama, but everytime I add more clunkers, I get the nagging urge to pull them out and restore them!!!

Romans 3:23-25

John 14:6-7

 

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Posted by Oldcarfan27 on Friday, February 02, 2018 2:47 PM

93slammer

Weird, I've never had a problem with Dupli-Color primer. 

Tamyia primers (white & gray) are both great, but pricy. If you are near a Hobby Lobby, they have it and you can use the 40% coupon.

 

The problem I'm having with Dupli-Color primer is that the grey causes swelling at the sanded areas and causes my super glued areas to shrink.

I use super glue for most of my building, it sands well when worked soon after it sets,  its stable - it doesn't shrink or distort over time like putties do and it's quick - I can glue,  wait a few minutes and continue sanding and working. Unfortunately,  when DC primer is used,  it causes my body work to show so I have to wait days or weeks for it to harden so I can sand it smooth again. 

Their white primer crazes badly. I exchanged a can for another one and the same thing happened. I did it on a different car so I don't think it's the plastic.

"I keep trying to complete my junkyard diorama, but everytime I add more clunkers, I get the nagging urge to pull them out and restore them!!!

Romans 3:23-25

John 14:6-7

 

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Posted by Oldcarfan27 on Friday, February 02, 2018 3:16 PM

I miss the old Krylon formula. It sprayed smooth, dried fast and hard. I could spray it, wait for it to dry and sand it later that day. And it didn't bury details like this new paint does.

I might have to check out the paint at Wallymart. I've just been afraid that if the more expensive paint was this bad, then the bargain paint might be worse.

I don't have very good luck with my paint jobs. They seem to fail somewhere along the line and then I have to strip it off and start all over again. At that point, it usually ends up back in the "parts box of broken dreams".

It's ironic,  I love to do body work - kit bashing, conversions and such. But I hit a wall at painting.

Maybe I should just finish them unpainted, so people can see all the body work I did. Sigh.

"I keep trying to complete my junkyard diorama, but everytime I add more clunkers, I get the nagging urge to pull them out and restore them!!!

Romans 3:23-25

John 14:6-7

 

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Posted by Big Gary on Friday, February 02, 2018 7:24 PM

I've never used automotive lacquer for my builds.  I would seem to be pricey.  In fact I don't think I've used lacquer for anything.  I bought some Testors one coat lacquer paint but haven't used it yet. 

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Posted by Oldcarfan27 on Friday, February 02, 2018 10:47 PM

Big Gary

I've never used automotive lacquer for my builds.  I would seem to be pricey.  In fact I don't think I've used lacquer for anything.  I bought some Testors one coat lacquer paint but haven't used it yet. 

 

I started liking to use automotive lacquers because when they're prepped correctly, the finish is as durable as a real car. It can be color sanded, polished waxed and buffed like the real thing! Plus once it's hard, it isn't as fragile as hobby paints. I have some paint jobs I did back in the 1980s that still look good - and I know I can wax them up and they'll look like the day I built them. I'm just looking for a good primer base, so I can finish my cars like that again.

Actually, the cost isn't much more than Testors 3oz cans ($4 can). Dupli-color cans run about $6-8 can and you get twice as much, sometimes more if the color is available in a 12oz can. Plus the colors look real because they ARE real touch up paint colors. Check out the selection the next time you're in an auto parts store. 

"I keep trying to complete my junkyard diorama, but everytime I add more clunkers, I get the nagging urge to pull them out and restore them!!!

Romans 3:23-25

John 14:6-7

 

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Posted by Wayne Farmer on Friday, February 02, 2018 11:30 PM

I use Duplicolor or Plasticote Sandable primers in the large spray cans..Dust on the first two coats then a little thicker..Sand with 1500 wet then clean and dry..I shoot Duplicolor Perfect Match colors then their acrylic enamel (large can black label,,smells and dries like lacquer)  Wet sand with 2000 then polish with either Meguiar's Scratch X 2.0 or cleaner(cleaner is not as abrasive as the 2.0)  follow up with Meguiar's Gold Class paste..small amount, dry to haze then wipe off..There you have it..     

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Posted by Viperdoug on Saturday, February 03, 2018 6:03 PM

I have tried just about all major primers out there, and I have settled on Mr Color primers both spray can and for small work and final coat on a body I use bottle primer and thin it with Mr Color thinner and run it through my air brush.  I feel its the best primer out there.

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Posted by Oldcarfan27 on Sunday, February 04, 2018 10:57 AM

Viperdoug

I have tried just about all major primers out there, and I have settled on Mr Color primers both spray can and for small work and final coat on a body I use bottle primer and thin it with Mr Color thinner and run it through my air brush.  I feel its the best primer out there.

 

Viperdoug

I have tried just about all major primers out there, and I have settled on Mr Color primers both spray can and for small work and final coat on a body I use bottle primer and thin it with Mr Color thinner and run it through my air brush.  I feel its the best primer out there.

 

I've never heard of Mr. Color, where do you buy it?

"I keep trying to complete my junkyard diorama, but everytime I add more clunkers, I get the nagging urge to pull them out and restore them!!!

Romans 3:23-25

John 14:6-7

 

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Posted by Viperdoug on Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:58 AM

I buy my Mr Color primer and paints as well as Zero Paints from Hobbyworld-USA.com. They carry a lot of nice paints that is  hard to find in the US.  Also they carry the line of the new AK metal paints, good stuff.

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Posted by Johnt on Monday, February 05, 2018 8:38 AM
I've had very good luck using Duplicolor primer/sealer for a long time
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Posted by montanaphil on Monday, March 12, 2018 10:51 PM

I use Tamiya fine gray spray cans. I have done 3 kits this way and it works good. Primer sand and prime than wet coats of Duplicolor and a nice finish. I also use Duplicolor clear gloss, good stuff. I bought a can of the clear and it is ready to spray right out of the can.

I also bought a can of Duplicolor primer which I will use on the next kit, it to is thinned and ready to spray.

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Posted by Michael B. on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:24 PM

I would suggest to shell out the $29 and get Donn Yost's airbrushing DVD.  He goes over all aspects from environment to preparation to the finished product and everything in-between.  Well worth the money, hands down!  Just search Donn Yost and you will find his web site.  Good luck

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Posted by Michael B. on Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:56 PM

My mistake.  The Donn Yost airbrushing DVD is $19 not $29.

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Friday, March 23, 2018 11:11 PM

Over the years I have discovered that technique can be such a huge issue in so many disciplines of model building including, and especially spray painting. There are so many variables.

Guy's tend to blame the paints most of the time, but from my own experience and talking to others, a lot of the problems are unfamiliarities with different types and brands of paints whether spray or custom mixed.

Every kind of paint and brand of paint have there own characteristics that a builder needs to be familiar with by always PRACTICING AND PRACTICING.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - painting is not a simple plug 'N' play discipline of model building - IT'S HARD.

If your going to stay with this hobby and enjoy the finished product to your satisfaction, it's imperative that you develope a dependable and repeatable painting technique and a comprehensive knowledge of ALL your painting  materials, and a skilled system for pre-paint preparation, and a complete knowledge of all your paints compatibility, or you'll continue coming here and posting these questions about how to make your problems go away.

Questions are great, but there is no replacement for practice, experimenting with different paints on your own and finding out for yourself what works and what doesn't.

The answers any of us give you are just a starting point for you to begin your own process of finding what works best for you personally.

Good luck

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