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Stop The Bleeding..... A Painters Tip!

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Stop The Bleeding..... A Painters Tip!
Posted by jwrass14 on Thursday, March 09, 2017 2:01 AM

 

Stop The Bleeding…. A Painters Tip!

 

 

 

Have you ever done a tape out for an awesome graphic or two tone only to be disappointed when you pull the tape and you have bleed through or paint creep?

 

This can be avoided with the following trick…. After you have your tape out done burnish your tape down really tight paying attention not to have any gaps.

 

Mix a batch of clear at a ratio of 1:2 or slightly thinner (when mixing paints, the ratio is always shown as Paint : Reducer)

 

Spray a light coat of this mixture along the tape out line(s) not too heavy…just enough to form a slight bridge between the tape and taped off color…Again a thin coat here as you want to avoid a tall edge between the colors. Spray your second colors(s) and presto… when you pull the tape….. no bleed or creep of your second color!

 

What this procedure does is provide a seal at the taped edge with clear. If there is any bleed or creep it will be with the clear…. having that seal with clear between the taped paint and the edge of the tape will give you a razor like transition with no bleed or creep every time.

 

I use this procedure all the time on 1:1 fades and graphics with flawless results.

 

The tape shades on the rear fenders of this truck I painted were done with this procedure… Note how crisp the tape out fades are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace…. Jimmy “RASS”

 

"I Have Flying Monkey's And I'm Not Afraid To Use Them"

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Posted by High octane on Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:56 AM

I have mentioned and used this method several times, and it works great!

High octane

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:08 AM

High octane

I have mentioned and used this method several times, and it works great!

 

X2. Works great Thumbs Up

Another way I have used for years is to lay down a coat or two of clear over the first base color as a barrier coat not only for this technique, but it keeps the properly chosen tape from lifting the base color  and hopefully that tape is a good grade for line separation. I like Tamiya's tape, as there is hardly ever any "creep", but if there is,once the tape is removed the clear coat allows me to sand away any second color "Creep" to keep a perfect line, and I don't sand against the base color and go through it or ruin it some other way, say if it's a pearl or metallic.

I love all these tips being posted Thumbs UpThumbs Up.

Thanks JW

I love Mecum Auctions and Barrett/Jackson auctions.

I bought all the model stuff I wanted for Christmas because no one else would spend that much on me Laugh Laugh

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by jwrass14 on Monday, March 13, 2017 6:31 AM

Treehugger Dave
 
High octane

I have mentioned and used this method several times, and it works great!

 

 

 

X2. Works great Thumbs Up

Another way I have used for years is to lay down a coat or two of clear over the first base color as a barrier coat not only for this technique, but it keeps the properly chosen tape from lifting the base color  and hopefully that tape is a good grade for line separation. I like Tamiya's tape, as there is hardly ever any "creep", but if there is,once the tape is removed the clear coat allows me to sand away any second color "Creep" to keep a perfect line, and I don't sand against the base color and go through it or ruin it some other way, say if it's a pearl or metallic.

I love all these tips being posted Thumbs UpThumbs Up.

Thanks JW

 

I too use a barrier coat as described by Dave, which is a great and common practice in custom paint applications, which does transfer directly to modeling.

I don't use Tamiya tape.... I did buy some out of curiosity and have played with it (not on models) It is thin and has it's place! However costly....There is fairly new tape to the automotive market called FBS tapes. They make many specialty types of tapes one I use is FBS PT-43 which has the same properties of Tamiya.. They also have a new line of tapes designed for the modeler (I have not tried) FBS PT-43 Micro Tape.

Cost vs Value:

Tamiya-18m/19 Yards $8.00 = .42/Yard

FBS-28 Yards $ 8.00 = .28/Yard

One draw back could be is that they don't come in a dispenser if your into that kind of thing.

FBS Tapes can be found at Coast AirBrush.

IMO, FBS is a great product worth looking into.

"RASS"

"I Have Flying Monkey's And I'm Not Afraid To Use Them"

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Posted by High octane on Monday, March 13, 2017 7:51 AM

I still use the tan colored tape made by Scotch 3M that I buy at Home Depot, and really don't have any problems with it.

High octane

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Posted by jwrass14 on Monday, March 13, 2017 2:04 PM

High octane

I still use the tan colored tape made by Scotch 3M that I buy at Home Depot, and really don't have any problems with it.

 

IMO there is alot of fuss made about tapes..... Are their tapes better than the crepe tape that H.O, uses.... maybe! However I still use alot of crepe tape for 1:1 custom paint work. Some of the finest tape outs and custom paint jobs every produced (and still are) were done with the standard crepe tapes because that is all that was offered. Before the advent of the so called fine line tapes we used to use household scotch tape as an aid for the tops and bottoms of hand lettering for that crisp look.

To me it's more about the technique than the tape that dictates the final outcome. The fine line tapes aren't magic.....There is magic in the hands, eyes and skills of one who can pull of that pefect line with products of yor!

Jimmy "RASS" 

"I Have Flying Monkey's And I'm Not Afraid To Use Them"

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Monday, March 13, 2017 11:04 PM

jwrass14
 
High octane

I still use the tan colored tape made by Scotch 3M that I buy at Home Depot, and really don't have any problems with it.

 

 

 

IMO there is alot of fuss made about tapes..... Are their tapes better than the crepe tape that H.O, uses.... maybe! However I still use alot of crepe tape for 1:1 custom paint work. Some of the finest tape outs and custom paint jobs every produced (and still are) were done with the standard crepe tapes because that is all that was offered. Before the advent of the so called fine line tapes we used to use household scotch tape as an aid for the tops and bottoms of hand lettering for that crisp look.

 

To me it's more about the technique than the tape that dictates the final outcome. The fine line tapes aren't magic.....There is magic in the hands, eyes and skills of one who can pull of that pefect line with products of yor!

Jimmy "RASS" 

 

Hey Jimmy Big Smile

I am so glad your here and have so much to offer all of us from all your many years of experience.

I especially like your last paragraph because to me a true painters heart comes through his hands and his passion. Basic tools like tape and airbrushes are needed. They can be the most basic stoneage tools imaginable, but if the skill is there no one can come close to his creations, because it's all about the intangibles of vision, art,  technique, and inner confidence.

Now - for me I'm a tape guy....I love tape. Always looking for new tape. I have a drawer full of tape in one of my roll aways.

To me tape is such an amazing tool that is overlooked way to much because I love to paint 2...3...4...colors on a car...I'm really a color guy as an artist and love to find color combinations that just "POP" and challange me to choose the right tapes and find the right car to bring out the "Bling" and "Dazzle", and then be successful at making it happen in this small scale that we work in.

Taping a car over and over for the many colors can be so time consuming to get it perfect, and yet designing the sequence of tapings and spray-outs can be so challanging and I thrive on that crazy intricate stuff, and the right tape makes it so much easier to get me there.

It's so cool to lay down that last coat of clear to bring out the vibrance in all those colors, and then see all that work come to life as I go through the polishing process and see the colors start to "Dazzle" me. It's sort of a mini-nirvana when it turns out right Thumbs Up.

This car has 5 different sections, so needed 5 separate taping and spray-outs, plus all the foil work took days, but it was just crazy fun Smile, Wink & Grin, and the right tapes (Yes, I used sevaral) made it all possible.

 By the way. besides Tamiyas regular tapes, Tamiya has a tape not sold here in the States. It's super thin, comes in 3 widths, starting in 1/16 inch wide, and is made of a resin compound that makes it easy to do tight curves. It's white and can be found on Ebay, and can be taped over with othe Tamiya tapes.

I love Mecum Auctions and Barrett/Jackson auctions.

I bought all the model stuff I wanted for Christmas because no one else would spend that much on me Laugh Laugh

 

                                     

 

 

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    August, 2016
  • From: Wisconsin
Posted by jwrass14 on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 1:03 PM

Treehugger Dave
Now - for me I'm a tape guy....I love tape. Always looking for new tape. I have a drawer full of tape in one of my roll aways.

Dave,

I beleive you busted me and I may need therapy. Yesterday at the shop I was straightening out the sand paper and tape shelfs and I have alot more variity of tapes than I thought.... mostly still in the packages.... so I guess I could qualify as a semi tape junkie. I don't even remember buying half the stuff!  One thing I'm totally guilty of is I'm a brush collector. Any new lettering or striping brush that comes out... I can't resist... Many never see paint... I have some brushes that are 35-40 years old that are new. It's a desease!

I enjoy and respect your all of your input and builds.... Much respect! 

Jimmy "RASS"

"I Have Flying Monkey's And I'm Not Afraid To Use Them"

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