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Tamiya Candy Apple Red
Posted by Jeff M. on Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:05 PM

Does Tamiya offer a spray lacquer that resembles candy apple red?

Jeff

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Posted by High octane on Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:43 PM

Tamiya has a Clear Red and if you spray it over a gold base coat, you should be able to get the "candy apple" effect. A word of caution though, too many coats of Clear Red and you'll lose the candy effect as the base coat won't shine through.

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Posted by gbk1 on Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:57 PM

This is 2 coats of Tamiya TS-74 Clear Red over Testors Pagan Gold (the color on the wheels):

Bernard Kron Keep On Buildin'

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Posted by Jeff M. on Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:26 AM

Your model is amazing!

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Posted by Marc Weller on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:27 PM

So is your photography.

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Posted by fseva on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:52 AM

Yes, Tamiya makes a clear red, but it's not a lacquer - it's one of their alcohol-based acrylics. And it's only available in the 2 sizes of bottles, which means that you'll probably have to buy several. However, Spaz Stix makes a Candy Apple Red, and it's available in 2oz bottles and it's lacquer-based.

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Posted by gbk1 on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:21 PM

Thanks for the nice words on my model and pics, guys!

fseva
Yes, Tamiya makes a clear red, but it's not a lacquer - it's one of their alcohol-based acrylics. And it's only available in the 2 sizes of bottles, which means that you'll probably have to buy several. However, Spaz Stix makes a Candy Apple Red, and it's available in 2oz bottles and it's lacquer-based.

I think you're referring to Tamiya Acrylic X-27 Clear Red (see: http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/paints-finishes-60/tamiya-color-acrylic-paint-59000/acrylic-x-27-clear-red-81027 ). As indicated above, my model was painted using Tamiya TS-74 Clear Red which comes in a 100ml Spray Can. To quote Tamiya "The paint is a synthetic lacquer that cures in a short period of time."

Bernard Kron Keep On Buildin'

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Posted by fseva on Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:34 AM

gbk1

fseva
Yes, Tamiya makes a clear red, but it's not a lacquer - it's one of their alcohol-based acrylics. And it's only available in the 2 sizes of bottles.

I think you're referring to Tamiya Acrylic X-27 Clear Red (see: http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/paints-finishes-60/tamiya-color-acrylic-paint-59000/acrylic-x-27-clear-red-81027 ). As indicated above, my model was painted using Tamiya TS-74 Clear Red which comes in a 100ml Spray Can. To quote Tamiya "The paint is a synthetic lacquer that cures in a short period of time."

Bernard, thanks for correcting my mistake... I was sure it didn't come in a spray can. Now that I know they are available in lacquer-based spray cans, I will have an alternative to the somewhat hard to find Spaz Stix line!

Frank

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Posted by fseva on Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:59 AM

You know, come to think of it, the original post was specifically asking about "Candy Apple Red", which is a definite shade of red, and the Tamiya Clear Red might be close, but not exactly what was asked for. In that case, the only true Candy Apple Red that is available in lacquer is again the Spaz Stix version, which I have used with very good success.

Frank

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Posted by High octane on Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:55 PM

A really nice assortment of Kandy Colors can be had from Black Gold, and they advertise in Scale Auto of course!

High octane

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Posted by OrangeR/T on Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:50 PM
Quick question, if you use the Tamiya Clear Red should you still use a clear coat over that as well? If only 2 coats of the Clear Red is needed seems like that wouldn't leave enough to wet sand and polish out. I'm planning on trying the a Tamiya clear red over gold on a future model project.
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Posted by gbk1 on Friday, May 30, 2014 8:06 AM

OrangeR/T
... if you use the Tamiya Clear Red should you still use a clear coat over that as well? If only 2 coats of the Clear Red is needed seems like that wouldn't leave enough to wet sand and polish out....

 

You bring up some important points. The shade and depth of a Candy paint job is determined by the color and texture of the metallic base coat you use and by the transparency, shade and number of coats of the transparent Candy coat you use. Generally, when I've done Candy colors I try to limit the number of Candy coats I put down because, as was pointed out above, if you put too many down they become opaque. You're right that a limited number of Candy coats can be an issue if your Candies aren't very smooth and you need to do a lot of sanding and polishing. My approach is to be careful when applying each layer of color, starting with the base coats where I sand and polish them completely, then add a light final metallic base to re-establish the texture, then apply 2-3 Candy coats and 2 clear coats. Then I polish the final metallic/clear/Candy combination, treating it as one group of layers. If I feel I want a little more depth I'll then go with another 2-3 clear coats and polish, but this is not something I do too often.

Bernard Kron Keep On Buildin'

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Posted by fseva on Friday, May 30, 2014 11:02 AM

OrangeR/T
Quick question, if you use the Tamiya Clear Red should you still use a clear coat over that as well? If only 2 coats of the Clear Red is needed seems like that wouldn't leave enough to wet sand and polish out. 

In addition to what others have said, it's really important when sanding... and buffing... that you take care not to go through the candy coat at outside corners. That line of silver or gold showing through so obviously is a real bummer, and it won't be easy to touch up without getting more color coat onto areas that are already deep enough.

Frank

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Posted by gbk1 on Friday, May 30, 2014 11:23 AM

fseva
...it's really important when sanding... and buffing... that you take care not to go through the candy coat at outside corners. That line of silver or gold showing through so obviously is a real bummer, and it won't be easy to touch up without getting more color coat onto areas that are already deep enough....

Too true! That's why I always group my layers of paint thinking of them in terms of what I want to achieve. In my example above the group consisting of a final base metallic coat to preserve the flake texture, the transparent Candy coats, and the initial clear coats are all one "system". The initial clears provide a protective buffer for any sanding and polishing.

All of which is to point out you're always best off making sure you apply paint as thinly and smoothly as possible. All the sanding and polishing in the world won't save a bad application, and in fact, as you point out, may create its own problems!

Bernard Kron Keep On Buildin'

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Posted by Ejronin on Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:31 AM

I realize this is an old post...however I have seen this question posted in many forums several times over. 

 

As some have said, Tamiya Clear Red Acrylic over Gold / Metallic Gold will give a warm candy effect. 

Tamiya Clear Red Acrylic over Silver Leaf / Metallic Silver will give a cool candy effect.

A third option I use often on Mech models (Gundam), is Spaz Stix Mirror Chrome over polished Tamiya Gloss Black. This is important because you'll want to put a couple of even most coats of the Mirror Chrome over a very glossy and near perfect smooth black. 7000 -12000 grit and fine polish compound. 

 

Once the chrome is laid down, I use TS-39 Mica Red. 2 mist, one wet. You'll be able to use GSI Mr. Hobby Super Clear, Tamiya Clear, or any other lacquer topcoat without issue. 

The warning I'd issue about using Spaz Stix Candy Apple Red on a polystyrene kit is that the paint is formulated for polycarbonate. Unless you topcoat with acrylic, it will slough off or crackle. Going this route, I've only been able to topcoat with acrylic, but if you're like me and rattle can more than brush or AB, Lexan body paint can have some challenges to be aware of. 

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Posted by Ejronin on Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:54 AM

OrangeR/T
Quick question, if you use the Tamiya Clear Red should you still use a clear coat over that as well? If only 2 coats of the Clear Red is needed seems like that wouldn't leave enough to wet sand and polish out. I'm planning on trying the a Tamiya clear red over gold on a future model project.
 

 

Be careful which topcoat you use. Tamiya topcoats are formulated to mesh well with their lone of acrylics as their lacquer is synthetic acrylic lacquer and their acrylics are solvent based. Mr. Hobby also meshes well with them but if you're using a different waterbased acrylic for your clear red, you'll want to avoid solvent based topcoats or it will crackle. 

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