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260 ford engine
Posted by Lil Rebel on Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:47 AM

does or did anyone make a 1:25 scale 260 engine? There are plenty of 289's but the 260 is noticably smaller and I'm not the best at scratch building so if anyone can, "help". Thanks in advance                                       

                                                         Mike

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Posted by TarheelRick on Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:26 AM

Don't hold me to it but I believe the Sunbeam Tiger kit may have had a 260 in it.  Now that I have said that it will probably be a 289.

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Posted by gloozalot on Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM

Reb, ol TarheelRick is steering you pretty close.  You might also try the engine in the AMT Cobra kit.  When you compare both those engines to other AMT and MPC 289 examples, they appear smaller and might get you where you want to be.  After all, its your model and the engine is what YOU say it is, not what some know-it-all armchair expert claims it is.  Good luck with your project and show it off when you finish.

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Posted by trainwreck on Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:34 PM

Mike, there is very little physical change between the 221-289 sb ford blocks. All have the same length & width.(checked this morning). I think you're ok with the 289, hope this helps,,,,,Trainwreck.

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Posted by excrewchief on Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:52 PM

It has been awhile but the 221 260 & 289 that i ever built are the same block on the outside. There is no visible difference that i know that could be seen in scale . Good luck

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Posted by Lil Rebel on Sunday, February 28, 2016 1:59 PM
Thanks. The dog left.
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Posted by Lil Rebel on Sunday, February 28, 2016 1:59 PM
Thanks
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Posted by Force on Monday, March 21, 2016 4:12 AM

excrewchief

 

It has been awhile but the 221 260 & 289 that i ever built are the same block on the outside. There is no visible difference that i know that could be seen in scale . Good luck

 

 

Yes the Ford 221-260-289 and 302 are from the same Ford 90 Degree (Windsor) family and has the same basic design so they look pretty much the same on the outside.
Most differences are internal meaning crankshaft stroke and cylinder bore, the 221 has 3.50" inch bore and 2.87" stroke, the 260 has 3.80" bore and the same 2.87" stroke as the 221, the 289 has 4.00" bore and the same 2.87" stroke,  the 302 has the same 4.00" bore as the 289 and slightly longer stroke at 3.00" and the 302 block casting is slightly different on the inside.
The heads also looks the same but the valve sizes and combustion chambers are different and the intake and exhaust manifolds can also differ some, so can the valve covers and air cleaner too, but all these things are interchangeable between these engines.

The 351 Windsor are from the same family but the engine block deck hight is about 1½ inch taller so it's also a bit wider and the bore is still 4.00" but the stroke is a longer 3.50", some things fits from a 351W to a 289 or 302 such as the heads and camshaft, the 351 has a different firing order tho' so you have to wire it right at 13726548 instead of the usual 15426378 wich are for most Ford engines if you use a 351W camshaft.

 

I made a list quite some time ago with American car engine familys where you can see what engines you can build from wich family.

http://cs.scaleautomag.com/sca/tips_techniques/f/10/t/41900.aspx

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Posted by icegs on Monday, March 21, 2016 10:14 PM

The Trumpeter Falcon has one. I was digging through mine last night, and it looks pretty nice to me. I'm by no means a Ford expert, so can't comment on the accuracy or dimensions, but it looks good. I'm swapping in out to use in a Cougar.

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Posted by Force on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:07 AM

Yes the Trumpeter Falcon is supposed to have a 260 engine but it's way too big to be right, it's 1:24th scale but the engine seems to be more like 1:20th scale or something like that...because a real 221-302 is small.
It's not that accurate either and the transmission is a total mess, it looks like a weird combination of a manual and automatic and it doesn't look like a Fordomatic, C4 or any other automatic transmission I have seen.
So one can wonder where they have gotten their references from...they can not have used a real Ford Falcon for anything else than maybe the body (wich is kind of squareish too) as they have missed out on mostly everything.

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Posted by Fordman on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
mike the 289 should work just fine (the 260 thru 302 are the same block).

Jim    so many kits so little time  Sigh

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Posted by GT4494 on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:30 PM

Kinda correct answer. 

In 1965 the 289 went to a 6 bolt bellhousing patten instead of a 5 bolt.  All 260's had a 5 bolt pattern.  Block dimensions are the same otherwise.  :)

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Posted by gulftarpon on Sunday, July 24, 2016 6:07 PM

The 1:1 260 and 289 were physically the same size. The 260 in the AMT Cobra at least is nice but undersized as I (vaguely) recall.

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Posted by SM2 on Monday, August 15, 2016 7:16 PM

The AMT Cobra is probably the best representation, if maybe too small, as mentioned. The 260 had an oil filler tube coming from the front cover, as in the Cobra kit.  289s took oil from a filler cap on the valve cover.  Whichever engine you choose for your model if you want to accurately represent a 260 it will need that oil filler tube and smooth valve covers to be correct.

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Posted by Lil Rebel on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:43 AM

Thanks to all. The extra info is a big help. This site and SA is always a huge help to an old builder thats just gotten back to trrying to build after life got in the way.

SM2

The AMT Cobra is probably the best representation, if maybe too small, as mentioned. The 260 had an oil filler tube coming from the front cover, as in the Cobra kit.  289s took oil from a filler cap on the valve cover.  Whichever engine you choose for your model if you want to accurately represent a 260 it will need that oil filler tube and smooth valve covers to be correct.

 

There's no such tihng as too many kits, just too little time!

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