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WHAT ENGINE COMES WITH THE ROUND2 AMT 71 ALLISON MERCURY CYCLONE?

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WHAT ENGINE COMES WITH THE ROUND2 AMT 71 ALLISON MERCURY CYCLONE?
Posted by 6 on Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:50 PM

What engine comes with the 71 Merc Cyclone Allison Stock Car kit? 

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Posted by 195X on Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:00 PM

100% generic. To save money MPC used a universal chassis and engine. The chrome parts (valve covers) and bodies were about the only differences kit to kit. Unfortunately NASCAR seems to have followed that reasoning in recent years with cookiee cutter setups.

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Posted by 6 on Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:21 PM

Thanks;  what does it most resemble?  Clearly a big block - 427?  428?

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Posted by 195X on Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:31 PM

The heads in the Allison Cyclone should be a 427.

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Posted by gloozalot on Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:38 PM

My original has heads and covers that look like the 385 series 429  but I have seen better.

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Posted by SSNJim on Monday, June 26, 2017 5:27 AM

The Boss 429 is what it resembles, even though the hood decals say 427 C.I.

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Posted by 6 on Monday, June 26, 2017 6:40 AM

That was my issue - I wanted to roll with the decals but I saw a lot of chat about it most resembling the Boss 429.

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Posted by aliasT.W. on Monday, June 26, 2017 12:32 PM

The real car clearly says "429" on the hood. So after hearing what's been said, I'd go with that. Bill.

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Posted by 195X on Monday, June 26, 2017 1:46 PM

aliasT.W.

The real car clearly says "429" on the hood. So after hearing what's been said, I'd go with that. Bill.

 

That is correct. Although the kit has always had "427" the actual car was a 429. Sorry if I added to the confusion.

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Posted by aliasT.W. on Monday, June 26, 2017 4:30 PM

I looked at a build of this kit in the forum (see racecars), thats a "Boss 429" in there. Bill

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Posted by 195X on Monday, June 26, 2017 7:54 PM

aliasT.W.

I looked at a build of this kit in the forum (see racecars), thats a "Boss 429" in there. Bill

 

No, they are 429 valve covers and heads, the rest is pure generic. Same block, intake, carb etc. from the petty dodge to the chevs to the fords. You are better off replacing the engine with a unit from another kit.

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Posted by SSNJim on Monday, July 03, 2017 8:32 PM

I was just looking through my Allison kit, and found that in addition to the Boss 429 heads, there is a second set. It is a smaller, squarish valve cover and head (not chrome) that has a oil filler cap in the center of both sides. I don't know what engine it is supposed to be, but I would imagine it would work with the generic engine provided with the kit. It doesn't look like the 427 engine pictures I saw on line; maybe it's a GM engine or a Ford small block. The non-body pieces in this kit are pretty generic - it could be anything.

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Posted by gloozalot on Monday, July 03, 2017 11:56 PM

Thats the parts you would find in the Jim Hurtubise Miller Chevelle.  You piled those pieces on top of the generic block and called it a big block chevy.  Wasnt modeling great in 1971?

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Posted by Bainford on Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:13 AM

This is particularly bad when you consider Ford and Chevy have the opposite cylinder bank off-set. Does the kit engine have the off-set for the Ford (right bank fwd) or the Chevy (left bank fwd)? Or does it have no cylinder bank off-set at all? Just curious.

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Posted by SSNJim on Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:34 PM

No offset at all. Both banks are equal.

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