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Yamaha RZV 500R Finished!!

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Yamaha RZV 500R Finished!!
Posted by justmike on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 6:13 PM

So my buddy finally broke down and has given me this kit which he bought about 15 years ago and never touched. I have been bugging him about it and have volunteered many times to do it for him. It was always "No, I'll get to it" I'll get to it never came and the other day he finally handed it over.  Allright!!!!  I have researched the color and its Mistic White?!!  Will Tamiya's X2 Gloss white do or is there some pearl in this white by Yamaha? P.S.,  this is only my second bike in some 30 years plus of model building so I hope I can pick some brains for tips here.

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Posted by Aussie Mick on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 9:17 PM

Hi Mike, the white on this bike isn't pearl, it is just normal white. I build a lot of the Tamiya bike kits and always use Tamiya spray cans and I NEVER use gloss (or "pure") white. I get the best results by using Tamiya flat white ( not the white primer) and then put a coat of Tamiya clear over the top of it. If you want to know anything else or have any more questions just send me an email at mgadd63@hotmail.com and I can show you some pics of the results of this painting method. Maybe I'll hear from you,

Cheers

Aussie Mick

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:25 AM

Oh you're gonna hear from me!! It sounds like you know what you're doing. I will be airbrushing my stuff but I will stick with the Tamiya colors. I am leary of clear coats. I usually manage to screw up a good paint job and I don't want that to happen with this.

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:17 PM

This is getting frustrating. The only little store that comes close to the word "hobby" is a little craft store that sells some Humbrol paints and nothing else, no Testors, no Tamiya. Unfortunately, they can't even get the Humbrol thinner at this point for whatever backordered reason the supplier gives them so I can't even use some of my Humbrol paints at this point. To get Tamiya paint would involve a 30 mile drive at 5 bucks a gallon for gas one way so thats a ten dollar trip for a few small jars of Tamiya paints at about 4 bucks apiece! I ain't rich, so for now I will use up my Testors gloss white because I have lots of airbrush thinner to go with that. Finding paints for airbrushing is getting to be quite the adventure here on Vancouver Island

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Posted by justmike on Friday, October 10, 2014 10:01 PM

I got all the body pieces glued together and will now be moving on to other parts while they set. I am going to have to remove the satin finish from pretty well everthing as far as I can tell, or are there some bits that I should leave as they are because they are close to accurate? The forks need to be tidied up, thats for sure, so they're getting stripped. If you are following this aussie mick please let me know. ( or any other knowledgeable person for that matter ) lol

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Posted by Aussie Mick on Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:42 AM

Mike, it has been over 25 years since I have seen inside this kit so I don't remember which parts are plated. As I recall, on the real bike the upper fork legs are chrome, and the frame, swingarm, and lower fork sliders are painted an aluminum color. Hope this helps. Are there any more plated bits? The mufflers are polished alloy.

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:31 PM

WOW!!!  This is one complicated build coming up for me. The paint callouts are positively scary! I glued these together with plain old Testors tube glue and the fit is so tight that I didn't need any filler, just a couple of dabs of glue here and there to fill in a few seam line depressions. I spent about 4 hours making sure the joints are perfect. I will be buying some white primer and giving them a coat when the sun shows, ( in November at this rate ). I have started sanding the frame and thats a nightmare too.

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:44 PM

At this point I cannot find any close up pics of rims on the 1/1's I've been researching but I have to assume that the fine little spine running up the middle of the spoke on these rims must be sanded off. Is that right?  Anyone??      Help!!         lol

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:47 PM

Whaddaya know?  I just found a picture and it looks like they stay!! I'm going to play it safe and wait till I get more info though. And btw Aussie, you are right; the color is called Clean White and a basic gloss white is going to do the job. Getting the right sheen on the exhaust and lower forks will be tough.

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Posted by Aussie Mick on Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:37 AM

Personally Mike , I would take off the really fine mould lines running up the spokes. Without fail, every Tamiya bike bit wheel has a mould line around the entire centre section of the wheel. That is where the mold splits.

These Tamiya bike kits go together so well. If you use the right glue, and get everything lined up right you rarely ever need filler. You said it looked complicated. You can do it, it's one of their easier bike kits. You can do it man!

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Posted by Aussie Mick on Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 AM

Yeah,...I know, I spelled mold wrong! Twice!

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Posted by justmike on Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:35 PM

Thats O.K.  My brain has been dipped in a mold too, I swear it. I smoothed the line down but left some the ridge there for now until I scope out a couple of more pics.

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Posted by justmike on Friday, October 17, 2014 7:56 PM

So the ridge is definitely staying; its there on the 1/1 wheels. I am getting so annoyed with this weather!  Its been raining and blowing nonstop ever since I mounted the parts on sprues for a coat of primer and it doesn't look like its going to stop anytime soon. .

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:00 PM

So we finally got a break in the weather. I literally had maybe two hours of time to do a couple of coats of primer with a sanding in between and a quick dry in the wife's food dehydrator ( don't tell her I use it! ) lol I really hate how primer does what its supposed to, that is, show up the flaws. I have a number of deep crevasses to fill; at least to me they are crevasses 'cause I'd have sworn my seam joints were perfect. I am going to have to do some crazy glue and baking soda filler. I don't want to use Tamiya's grey putty in case I get some shadowing coming through on the final white color. So lots of sanding coming up. Ugh

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Posted by justmike on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:26 PM

First of all; You guys who do bike models regularly are nuts!!!  This is way more complicated than a car kit! I have a couple of problems that will have to be overcome. First is the way the tank looks after the tape is removed. That picture is coming after the before picture. This is pretty colorful in its own way and could look good as a paint scheme on a bike ( which I will never do!! )

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Posted by justmike on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:34 PM

..........and here is the issue. The tape did not seal despite firm burnishing so I will have to redo this. Thanks Andy. This thing is gonna drive me nuts. I should send it back to you!   lol

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Posted by wheeliea on Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:14 PM

You wouldn't send it back you like the challenge :P

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Posted by wheeliea on Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:23 PM

try this Mike,no blue hoses's tho eh.

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Posted by justmike on Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 PM

Good to see ya on here buddy.

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Posted by justmike on Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:23 PM

And here is the issue. The decals are so old that the white has yellowed so I have to trim the red out and then try to get it all lined up. At this point in the picture taking process I have three pieces on and I think its going to work out.  As for that stupid gas tank; I ended up having to mask and repaint the white because despite how careful I tried to be the red I sanded ground into the white in places and I ended up with a discolored tank.  Aargh! So thats four times I've painted that thing.

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Posted by wheeliea on Monday, November 24, 2014 5:05 PM

you still love me ?

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Posted by justmike on Monday, November 24, 2014 8:55 PM

I am beginning to question why I wanted to do this thing for you. lol I was so focused on getting the faring decals on right, which I did by the way, and they look great, that I never sat back and looked at the whole thing. When I did I coulda cried. The Tamiya red (X7) the  instructions call for in no way matches the red of the decals!!!???  I have had to remask everything, gas tank included, and mix my own color to match and will be repainting the red in the proper shade. How that blatantly obvious mismatch slid by me is scary. Can I blame it on poor lighting?  

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Posted by justmike on Monday, December 15, 2014 10:43 PM

So here is the box of progress Andy. I have little bits on the go all over the place, but the sense of progress is there. As you can see, I did paint the piston head bolts silver as per the instructions.

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Posted by justmike on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 6:52 PM

I can't believe its only been a little over a week since my last post. Things are coming together, figuratively and literally. I tried to replicate the look of a used chain by doing it first in steel, then a light drybrush of gold over the high points and then used a black wash to highlight it. I think it turned out pretty darn good. I did also manage to get the red repainted!!  All those pieces are gloss coated now and are curing in a safe place. lol  Any way, here's the chain

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Posted by justmike on Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:10 PM

I took a look at the decal on the chain case through a magnifying glass and I could actually read the word " Tension" on it! Thats amazing. I went with a metalizer on the exhaust pipes and then did a very fine wash of metallic blue to get the heat stain effect. Its very subtle though. At this point the parts are coming together and the next big project in this build will be those front forks. Not gonna be fun! For now its glue a piece on and let it dry for a while before moving on to the next piece. Slow but fun to see it coming together.

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Posted by modelmarc on Saturday, December 27, 2014 1:08 PM

Hi Mike, you sure are doing a great job here - I have built this kit, but my skills are not up to masking and painting different colors - you have my admiration for your perseverance!!!! Looking really great so far.

Marc

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Posted by justmike on Sunday, December 28, 2014 12:40 AM

Thanks Marc.  I haven't got any more pics of my progress but its really coming along now. I will have this build done a lot quicker than I would have believed possible when I first started it.

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Posted by justmike on Monday, December 29, 2014 11:17 PM

Finally!  I have some results to show for all that frustration with the red. I did a mix of Model Masters Flourescent Red and Chrysler engine red. Its not a perfect match but its close. Whats wierd is the way the  red has absorbed the clear coat and stayed dull despite how thick the final coats of clear were. I have had a lot of issues with the flourescent red and hope I never need it again. Fortunately the 3200 to 12000 polishing pads did the trick. I will wax it after I get the final bits of panel lines and paint applied.

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Posted by justmike on Monday, December 29, 2014 11:25 PM

Gotta love decals for gauge faces instead of having to paint 'em. I brush painted burnt metal metalizer for the grey color around the gauges. It seemed to be a close match from reference photos I checked out.

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Posted by justmike on Monday, December 29, 2014 11:34 PM

Its a shame so much of the engine detail will be hidden by the faring and every other body piece. Tamiya sure put the details in it, thats for sure. I did the lower exhaust pipes in black chrome trim instead of the semi gloss black. They aren't shiny like chrome at all but its a deeper, richer black than the semi gloss would have been. I must have about half a dozen different shades of black on this bike.

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