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Rover P6 3500 in 1/24th : easily the rarest model kit I own!

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Rover P6 3500 in 1/24th : easily the rarest model kit I own!
Posted by Cycolac Fan on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:29 PM

What the heck is that I hear you ask?Big Smile

It's a 1/24th scale Rover P6 3500 of 1971 - 1977 vintage. The fullsize cars were sold in the States as NADA spec cars, you may have seen several as black police cars in the movie Gattica. The V8 model used an engine heavily based on the early 60's Buick 215ci V8.
In fact the P6 was sold worldwide, I currently own a fullsize LHD P6 originally sold new in Switzerland.








The resin model shown was moulded by Outhouse Models here in England about ten years ago and they were available in saloon (sedan) and estate (station wagon) versions as series I (pre 1970) and series II cars.

So how rare? Well there were about 90 made in all, in some five different variations so assume this is one of less than 30 made.

I'm trying to persuade the guy who moulded it to put the kits back into production so I thought I'd post some pictures to gauge people's interest. I don't represent the company in any way and I'm not on any kind of profit share, I'd just like to have these kits available again and there's a chance he might if there's enough demand.
No promises though.

So any questions / comments etc?
Mike "Good hands, bad taste in cars." Yes I'm a grown up 'playing' with toys but a lot of adults my age drink beer or play computer games - and I've got something to show for the time and money I've spent...
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Posted by octavia on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:46 PM
Hi

You dont fancy letting me take molds from it do you ? (if the guy would do it)seems a shame not to do more as there are so few british 1/24 out there.

If interested e-mail me

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Posted by Space Cowboy on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:43 PM
Such a rare and unusal find post some pics when you are done

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Posted by modelcarbuff on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:27 PM
Would love to have this one! Would go great with my other rare resins, the 1/24 '63 Skoda Octavia, 1/24 Fuji Cabin 3 wheel car, and 1/12 Subaru 360. This is what I hope to see more of, Vintage UK and European 1/24 cars of the 40's through the 70's that are what the average family rode in, not the Ferraris, Porsches, VW's, racing subjects, etc that are so overabundant today. Would also like to see the well done Record 1/24 Floride Caravelle reissued (too afraid to build my original) and other Record kits (if they made any others)that were made in France in the 60's.
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:54 AM
I'm hoping that there will be significant interest worldwide to justify them going back into production. I have put the original builder in touch with a resin caster here in the UK but at present it's a case of whether there is significant potential interest in a 1/24th Rover P6. And I don't know what purchase price might be either.

If enough people would seriously want one I'll direct hm to this thread as further encouragement.

Sorry I wouldn't want anyone to take moulds off this one, I'd sooner get them reissued through Outhouse.

I do plan to build this one but not for a while!
Mike
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Posted by dimaxion on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:38 AM
Sign me up for one . Oddball cars are my second fovorite . I also have the Skoda and Trabant . There are others like that . When I come to think about it , these aren't oddball but Mianstream ignored by the Model Makers . What are the chances of the " New Ford Anglia "in 1/25 th also ???? Thanx ..
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Posted by mrspex on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:56 AM
Well, I for one would buy at least one, as my father owns a 1967 tc2000. I learned to drive a stick shift on that car. So maybe one for me and one for him.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:28 PM
count me in! those moulds look very good indeed.

i never heard of this model/ company, but i would think there'd be some decent interest- take the moulds to classic car shows, or something?

Will

Doesn't SE Finecast doe a whitemetal Rover V8 kit in 1/24? now that would be a cool modelling project!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:34 PM
oh, and i know youll probably already know about it, but the chaps over at www.austin-rover.com, may be interested in a 1/24 rover p6 model!

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Posted by theflame on Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:57 AM
yeah, i think i'd buy one if the price wasnt crazy - looks great!
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Posted by GeeTee66 on Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:55 AM
my Dad had a 2200TC 1:1 version in metallic brown with cream leather interior.
The speedo worked like a thermometer, with a red stripe extending horizontally across the gauge with the numbers underneath it. Lovely cars.
I'd like to see this kit built!
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:44 AM
QUOTE:
i never heard of this model/ company, but i would think there'd be some decent interest- take the moulds to classic car shows, or something?

Outhouse only built this model as far as I know, Phil from Outhouse is a P6 owner and scratchbuilt everything from what I can tell, though I suspect the tyres had their origins in a Revell or Monogram kit originally before being modified.

QUOTE: Doesn't SE Finecast doe a whitemetal Rover V8 kit in 1/24? now that would be a cool modelling project!

Yes they do, or perhaps did. I've never seen one but I heard they were very good.

It's not obvious from the pictures but the P6 body is moulded in one solid piece (hence the separate roof) with the interior and chassis so you'd have to get very busy with a Dremel and then scratchbuild an engine bay.
You do get seperate dashboard, front seats, suspension and a really nicely moulded clear glazing though.

QUOTE: yeah, i think i'd buy one if the price wasnt crazy - looks great!

Can't really say regarding price. When they were available about ten years ago they were around £50 (say $100) and that might seem a lot but you have to bear in mind it is entirely scratchbuilt by one man and would always be a limited appeal kit. It really is (or was) the only game in town. Most were purchased through the Rover car clubs here in the UK.
I paid a bit more for mine on eBay last week but then I don't tend to think these things through rationally! Big SmileBig Smile

If enough of you are interested I'll get in touch with Phil and direct him to this thread but again I can't make any promises - I've been hassling him for the last two or three years to start making them again!

Mike "Good hands, bad taste in cars." Yes I'm a grown up 'playing' with toys but a lot of adults my age drink beer or play computer games - and I've got something to show for the time and money I've spent...
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Posted by lordairgtar on Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:08 AM
I myself would like one as I like oddball cars. It would look good with my Hong Qi and the Trabant. Let us know when and if production would begin so I can order and save up as I am sure the cars won't be cheap.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by modelcarbuff

Would love to have this one! Would go great with my other rare resins, the 1/24 '63 Skoda Octavia, 1/24 Fuji Cabin 3 wheel car, and 1/12 Subaru 360. This is what I hope to see more of, Vintage UK and European 1/24 cars of the 40's through the 70's that are what the average family rode in, not the Ferraris, Porsches, VW's, racing subjects, etc that are so overabundant today. Would also like to see the well done Record 1/24 Floride Caravelle reissued (too afraid to build my original) and other Record kits (if they made any others)that were made in France in the 60's.


I totally agree here... WAY to much emphasis going to cars that while beautiful, were small in terms of sales and overall market impact. For example, I'd much rather see a good kit of a Fiat 124/128/131/132, etc. then another Ferrari F-whatever.. Mind you I am not anti-Ferrari but just want to see more common vehicles kitted.

Here are a few examples of such that are sadly unavailable in 1:24/25 kit form to my knowledge:

* BMW 02 series - 2002, 1802, 1602, 1502, etc.

* Ford Escort Mk 1

* Fiat 124 Coupe

* Ford Capri Mk 1 - a real kit, not those toylike RS kits of the early 70's..

* Opel Kadett B or C and Manta/Ascona A or B, etc. Opel models in general in these scales..

I'm sure there are many, many others but my mind is drawing a blank right now..

Anyway, great kit of the P6.. Hopefully more of them will be available in the future?

Cheers,
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:58 PM
QUOTE: I'd much rather see a good kit of the Fiat 124/131/132, etc. then another Ferrari F-whatever..

* Opel Kadett B/C and Manta A/B, etc. Opel models in general in these scales..


Revell has a good kit of the FIAT 131 rally car out now, uses the old Esci moulds I believe.

There's a German company making several of those Opels in 1/24, wish I'd bookmarked the website as I was on it last week.
Mike
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Posted by octavia on Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:42 PM
QUOTE: There's a German company making several of those Opels in 1/24, wish I'd bookmarked the website as I was on it last week.
Mike

Try this
www.bsd-online.com/zum_Shop/index.php?cat=c2_R-ckspiegel.html

Think that's the one your looking for !

By the way Cycolac Fan, thanks for the prompt responce re - copying, fully understand - if the situation changes or "outhouse models" want to outsource production let me know.

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Posted by modelcarbuff on Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:22 PM
I've known about Rueckspiegel for some time, but found out the quality of their kits is poor after some searching. Some are said to be have parts copied from diecast and have incorrect scaling. Here's a couple of links to see one. There are some others that say similar. Sad, as the subjects are great.

http://home.tiscali.nl/cfaassen/capri/modellen/modellengb.htm


http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=4735901#post4735901

After seeing this and a few examples, I had to steer clear of them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 18, 2007 12:42 AM
Like modelcarbuff, I was also aware of Rückspiegel and their offerings but came to the same conclusion as he has..

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Posted by octavia on Friday, May 18, 2007 11:56 AM
Thats strange ! I've had several of their kits of the Capri and found them to be as good quality as any capri i've seen !

have seen other of their kits and aside from begin resin - with the usual production issue they have been very good - maybe i've been lucky.

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Posted by Paul H on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:16 PM
Great kit - I'd be very interested if the price isn't too much!

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Posted by bugace on Friday, June 08, 2007 7:04 AM
Some of the later Rückspiegel kits has not to bad propotions. But they are simple. The Baywindow VW needs a lot of work.
Capri MK I are not easy to find in 1/24-25. Dyosha has one, but it is closer to G scale.
The Turbo 2002 are availeble in resin, so are the 124 Rally and the Escort MkI rally. The later having some poor rooflines. You could also find the '70s GTV in resin. Late '50 Prefect sedan are also availeble( I'm waiting three pieces). The VW Type 3 Notchback are soon availeble, also it might be possible to get hold of the '63 Anglia(Harry Potter). I'll get one in august, but they might not ba availeble other then in a very limited quantity.
My self have a Old Renault Dauphine, that I wish to make a decent replica of. First copying the promo, then fix the propotions, and make it to use as transkit with Hellers 4CV. Also I have a couple of the Heller R8's, wich I'm very pleased with.
When it comes to rare Europeans, I have a Iwahori BMW Turbo 2000. The Gullwing prototype from early '70s, or late '60s. A beautifull body, but the rest of the kit are hardly to keep. Wondering about some heavy kitbashing, and build it "what if" with a BMW 12 cylinder engine. Using parts from Esci M1 and Revell's engine.

Still missing the P6 in my collection, and I belive I would have to order more then one if they was once again produced.
http://public.fotki.com/bugace/plastic-modelbuilding/ Hmmmm, where is the glue, know I it got here some where.......hi,hi,hi,hi..........hmmmm Gues my wife has hidden it........................hi,hi,hi,hi................................
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Posted by bugace on Friday, June 08, 2007 7:06 AM
One more thing!!
Just building a couple of Land Rovers, I belive the Monogram kit has the P6 2 litre engine.
http://public.fotki.com/bugace/plastic-modelbuilding/ Hmmmm, where is the glue, know I it got here some where.......hi,hi,hi,hi..........hmmmm Gues my wife has hidden it........................hi,hi,hi,hi................................
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Posted by wagoneer on Friday, June 08, 2007 10:54 AM
Amazing! And almost the same colour in resin as the real 3500 one I had. I'd be very tempted to buy a kit if it were re-released.
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:44 AM
I hope to get this one built later in the year. And I'll be keeping note of this thread to show the chap who originally made the kit as encouragement to reissue it.

So if you like what you see please keep the comments coming.
Thanks
Mike
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Posted by Atmobil on Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:30 PM
If you can get that reissued I'm in for at least 10 of them. Such everyday cars are much cooler than anything else around.
I am also thinking of making a resin cast of a car one day and that will be the 1960's Mercedes Benz W110 series cars. Hopefully a 190 petrol and Diesel variant and maybe 200 versions aswell. But this is something that is a long way in the future...

Someone should also see if they could get the guy that made the Volvo PV544 in resin to start reissue those aswell.
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:54 AM
I always hoped Tamiya might tool up a 1/24 Volvo Amazon 131GT to match their 850s.

Or Revell since they did one in 1/18 diecast.

Anyway good to know there is potential interest in a 1/24 P6.

Thanks for the commenst. Keep 'em coming
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 17, 2007 5:58 PM
Yup! I'm definately up for one. Interesting way he's cast it too...very lateral thinking.

I'd be up for an ol' Mercedes too...and an ol' Volvo! Please keep in touch if he decides to go ahead with new castings. I'm sure eBay (urgh, as much as I loath it) would open a whole new world of possibilities too...if he cast up 100, between eBay and this forum, they'd go pretty quickly by the looks of it.

Cheers for putting this up on the forum.

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Posted by Paul H on Monday, June 18, 2007 2:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Cycolac Fan

I always hoped Tamiya might tool up a 1/24 Volvo Amazon 131GT to match their 850s.

Or Revell since they did one in 1/18 diecast


123GT Wink

Converting the Revell 121 into a 123GT would be quite simple for a good modeller - extra carb, servo, headrests, tacho, spotlamps & badging. They already do a police version & I think that might have the necessary spotlamps. Certainly easy compared to a project gathering (lots of) dust on my work desk, which is converting the Revell 2 door saloon into an estate Big Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 24, 2007 8:04 AM
Anything happen with this? I still want one!
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Posted by mrspex on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:35 PM
Ditto!!! Anything?

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