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1959 Pontiac ambulance
Posted by Cycolac Fan on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:05 PM
I've just bought a resin 1959 Pontiac ambulance (though it's probably gonna become a hearse...) anyhow it comes without bumpers. Anyone know if the rear bumper on a '59 commercial chassis is the same as those on the sedans?
Any ideas for sources of '59 Pontiac dashboard, engine etc? Glass should come from one of the Ecto kits.
Mike "Good hands, bad taste in cars." Yes I'm a grown up 'playing' with toys but a lot of adults my age drink beer or play computer games - and I've got something to show for the time and money I've spent...
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Posted by dag65 on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:22 PM
This link shows the front of a 58 and thats about all I could find online
http://www.geocities.com/louisbernhardt/action.html
I want to be a race car passenger: just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." http://public.fotki.com/BigPoppa/darins_stuff-1/
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:53 PM
Cool The rear bumper depends on the coach builder, some of which are Superior, M-M, Flxible, Eureka, National, Cotner-Bevington. The commercial chassis usually means a 143"-153" and the rare 159" wheelbase. There were coaches built on the standard chassis 120" wheelbase for economic reasons as the commercial chassis was more expensive . . . Anyway, the rear bumper on the car in question would be the standard bumper without the small extra guards mounted on top of the bumper, and rear door threshold was designed fit the bumper contour Shy

The side window glass issue can be resolved with sheet clear plastic (the Ecto1 glass is smoked) and the shaped with overlap to fit and glue inside the body will depend on the body style of either "limousine" style or "landau" style; "limousine" style is like the Ecto1, and "landau" style is like the Johan Cadillac hearse side windows all four doors, and covered third window area has a landau bar for side trim.

Good luck to you if convert it to a funeral coach Approve

Where did find such a body?

Have you ever seen the Jimmy Flinstone '59 MM Cadillac resin cast hearse landau style, uses the Ecto1 chassis, not the chopped hearse that is shown on the Flintstone products list. I'd love to find one. Big SmileSmileBow

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Posted by dag65 on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:44 PM
Tom let me introduce you to Evil Bay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2585&item=5923730078&rd=1


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1190&item=5923686957&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1190&item=5922962786&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

You are in trouble nowBig SmileBig Smile
I want to be a race car passenger: just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." http://public.fotki.com/BigPoppa/darins_stuff-1/
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:24 PM
Cool [b]cycolac[b] I've got two pix of the'59 Ponitac Superior Ambulance, if you would them, e-mail your address and I'll send them (no charge) one pic shows right side rear, the is right side front. The three ebay pix that dag65 posted are #1 '59 MM Cadillac Landau style; #2 same body style as #1; #3 '59 Superior Pontiac Limousine style, could be worked into a combination ambulance/hearseSmile or ambulance Smile or end loader hearse Smile

Please advise about pix Shy

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:39 PM
Cool dag65 Love those pix, ebay you say, I'd like to find those but maybe not on ebay Shy Maybe from Jimmy Flinstone direct, I'm usually a day late and a dollar short for ebay transactions (disabled on SSDI) Sad

We use to live in Denver for 51 years, Denver then Arvada then Aurora, then move to Ohio (health reasons), I worked for Olinger Mortuaries, mostly at the Moore-Howard Berkeley Park Chapel at 46th and Tennyson, and some at Hampden Garden on East Hampden.

Did you find your J. Gordon decals Question If the style does not matter, I've got a Lumina Gordon 24, with the first first (J. Gordon) brickyard win article tucked away in the box if you are interested e-mail your address and we'll what transpires, I've already helped out a couple of the guys through the forum, a '53 Studebaker and '32 Ford 3w coupe Smile

Please advise Shy

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Posted by dag65 on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:48 PM
Hey thanks Tom , roadhawg offered me a set but I will take you up if that falls through.
Man I grew up in the Mid West and I bet the move from here was a tough one, I tried to go back once and came running back.
I have a friend in your business. Do you happen to know Don Holleson from Colorado Springs?
I have passed that Oligers countless times, our club meets a t 29th and Tennyson and Jared ( another Sa forum member ) lives near there.
Will keep an eye out at the swap meets for one of those hearses at a reasonable price for you.
I want to be a race car passenger: just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." http://public.fotki.com/BigPoppa/darins_stuff-1/
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:25 PM
Gotta love old ambulances. I did up two of the Ghostbusters kits. One became an ambulance, the other became a coroner's hearse. And amazingly, I still have a third in the box. It may become a Fire Dept Ambulance.
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:56 AM
Thanks for all the info guys, since I live in England info is kind of hard to come by.
I was looking at a Trumpeter '60 Pontiac last night and a lightbulb came on - 60 Pontiac ambulance! Wonder if the front and rear wings (sorry fenders) will swap over okay?
Yeah it's a lot of work but so is creating an interior and stretching a chassis (might chop up an Ecto anyway)
I'll have to wait for the resin to arrive first...
Mike "Good hands, bad taste in cars." Yes I'm a grown up 'playing' with toys but a lot of adults my age drink beer or play computer games - and I've got something to show for the time and money I've spent...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:30 AM
Cool Upon futher examination of the resin cast '59 pontiac, and mentioning in a previous post, it is a Superior company conversion, with a smooth top (no e lights) so that indicates it is a rendering of a combination ambulance/hearse.
As for stretching the Ecto1 it is already stretched, a 25th scale 6.25" wheelbase, equals the commercial 153" wheel base Wink You might keep a look out for and old '59 Pontiac Bonneville AMT promo or kit some of the first 3-in-1 kits, it might be worth a try Shy

Then you might consider reworking the AMT '62 Pontiac 421SD with '59 ambulance/hearse top, that chassis you'll need to stretch, and scribe door lines in for the right and left second doors, and there is the windshield problem, take a look at both years, I'm sure you know the drill Smile

Hope this project works out for you, best of luck Approve Again if you need some pix of the '59 Pontiac ambulance, the funeral coach (hearse) was very limited in production for any year mention, e-mail me your address, I'll send them Smile

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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:35 AM
Further to my early message I've just found out that this ambulance is now available with bumpers and grill (wish I'd known that last week...) anyway... it's also got an interior that looks like it's come from an Ecto kit but obviously it's a bit more expensive.
When said about stretching the chassis I meant the Trumpeter '60 Pontiac in case I go that route.
I did look at getting an old promo Tom but felt bad about ripping parts off an original model (I'm sentimental like that :-) )
Thanks again
Mike "Good hands, bad taste in cars." Yes I'm a grown up 'playing' with toys but a lot of adults my age drink beer or play computer games - and I've got something to show for the time and money I've spent...

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