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I need to find this stuff
Posted by GPERZERK on Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:49 AM
Where can i get some sq. tubing that is twisted to build a motor cycle frount forks out of? I tryed to twist some my self but no luck.
And Im looking for some old testor werido kits.3 to make my collection complete Leaky boat lewy,Drag Hag, Ends Vill Eddy
And some old i think were 1/16 or 1/18 scale chopper bike models one is a corvar powerd trike called the Six Pack. The last time I saw one was back in the 80s but it was called something else and had a surf mural on the side of the body.
And why arnt the manufactors coming out with any of the bikes we see on the TV shows other than Diecast? Dont they watch TV?
And in all the years of making model kits hasn't anyone figured out how to put the crome parts on the trees where the glue would go so we dont have to touch up thoes little spots with silver paint?
And has anyone done buissnes with a crome plating service like the one in the back of the mag? Can the parts be glued to the trees with CA or reg.model glues?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 22, 2004 12:11 PM
hmm, dont know about any of the kits, but take some styrene of the type u need, hold it over a candle (1-3 inches) until its just hot enough to slightly manuever...should work out fine like that just dont let it get too hot or it will melt
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Posted by GPERZERK on Monday, August 23, 2004 9:02 AM
no I know that wor't work cuz i'v tryed hot water and a heat gun . The problem with that is I cant get even twist and it warps can't keep it in a straight line.
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Posted by GPERZERK on Monday, August 23, 2004 9:07 AM
I know that worn't work cuz I'v tryed hot water and a heat gun on more than one pice. The twist arnt even and can't get it to stay in a straight line. Someone out there must make sq. twisted somethings that I could use.
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Posted by dag65 on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:17 PM
Thats alot of rapid fire requests in one post.
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Posted by Slabbedask on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:40 PM
I guess the easiest way to duplicate twisted iron bars in scale would be...........using smaller iron bars and twist them..? Try to find some square metal strips, perhaps from a model railroad supplier, chuck it in a vise, and use a wrench to twist it. It might just work.....
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Posted by lscrima on Thursday, November 4, 2004 8:09 PM
I agree with slabbe, and I would use brass solid square stock. Grip one end in a vise and use an adjustable wrench on the other end or a pipe wrench if the stock is too heavy and twist away (like they did last summer). You need a piece longer than the finished piece because the process is somewhat primitive. You can twist the bar stock to the amount you want. After your happy with the twist, cut it off to desired length, then shape and drill the ends to accept whatever you want.

I guess you could use square tubing by filling the tubing with solder, twisting the tubing and then melt the solder out of the tubing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 4, 2004 8:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Slabbedask

I guess the easiest way to duplicate twisted iron bars in scale would be...........using smaller iron bars and twist them..? Try to find some square metal strips, perhaps from a model railroad supplier, chuck it in a vise, and use a wrench to twist it. It might just work.....


Hey that is really interesting. I'll try it at work tomorrow. I'll post my results.

BTW I believe that Corvair-powered trike was 1/8 scale, but I could be wrong.
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Posted by lscrima on Thursday, November 4, 2004 8:59 PM
Gper,

Were you referring to a 1:1 motorcycle or a scale model? If it is 1:1 I believe you would have to heat the tubing first and then twist it and then heat treat it before using it on a bike going down the road. By twisting the metal you are setting up stresses in the tube which could cause future metal fatique and failure and cause some serious bodily harm to you. Possibly permanently. Dead

If you're talking about a model. The technique is fine.
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Posted by GPERZERK on Friday, November 5, 2004 12:37 AM
ApproveI have found alot of the kits and them some that I had as a kid or wish that I had goten on ebay. As for the twisted tubing or soild stock Im still tryn to find a good way to do it .As for the real thing on my V W powered trike I know about heating and reheating the metal what will happen. One person from PM mag. told me to try two things....
1- try twisting sq.tubing and slip it over store bought fork tubes but where do I find or get someone to do that for me when the tubes will be about 5-6 ft. long? I don't trust myself to do that.
2- take store bought tubes and cut strips of sheet metal and wrap the tubes with 4 strips , tacking them to the tubes as I go till i get all 4 strips on then weld all seams. I think I could handle that but it would be time comsuming
I think I'll just have to settle for normal forks or springer frount end.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 5, 2004 10:06 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GPERZERK

Where can i get some sq. tubing that is twisted to build a motor cycle frount forks out of? I tryed to twist some my self but no luck.
And Im looking for some old testor werido kits.3 to make my collection complete Leaky boat lewy,Drag Hag, Ends Vill Eddy
And some old i think were 1/16 or 1/18 scale chopper bike models one is a corvar powerd trike called the Six Pack. The last time I saw one was back in the 80s but it was called something else and had a surf mural on the side of the body.
And why arnt the manufactors coming out with any of the bikes we see on the TV shows other than Diecast? Dont they watch TV?
And in all the years of making model kits hasn't anyone figured out how to put the crome parts on the trees where the glue would go so we dont have to touch up thoes little spots with silver paint?
And has anyone done buissnes with a crome plating service like the one in the back of the mag? Can the parts be glued to the trees with CA or reg.model glues?


As for bike kits (I assume you mean motorcycles?), for some reason, model kits of those really never did sell all that well in years past, and unfortunately, model companies have pretty long memories of things that didn't sell well for them--dunno why this is, but it does seem to be the case.

With the 'attachment" points for chrome parts on the plastic trees, believe me, the model companies would like to be able to have them attached in such ways as to not interfere with, or damage the visible plating when the builder removes them for assembly. However, even though I won't go into all the engineering stuff, the sprue attachment points are pretty much where they are either due to the plastic flow into the molds (there is quite a science to that--to make sure that mold cavities are filled, without being "short-shot"), or because of the shape of the part (those 50's and 60's bumpers with their multiple-curved ends simply require a mold parting line right in the middle of the corners or ends of the bumper--there is just no way around that--steel dies do not stretch or give).

As for replating, I've used both ChromeTech and Little MotorKars--both have done a great job for me. Contact them, though, for instructions on how to mount up parts for plating, bu tin general, as an adhesive, I've used DAP Silicone II bathtub sealer; it's flexible, holds the part well, but comes off fairly easily when it comes time to remove the parts from the plating frames used.

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Posted by MojoDoctor on Friday, November 5, 2004 11:56 AM
As far as the diecast TV motorcycle question, there are already some available. There is a thread somewhere here that talks about the upcoming OCC Firebike diecast. Jesse James' motorcycles are at Wall-Mart as well as some Arlen Ness bikes.

Lee in Texas is correct about the 1/8 trikes, and they were available from Revell. You can find them on eBay, but they will drain your wallet for over $50 each!

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