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Hearses
Posted by scot on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:42 PM
Where do I bodies? "heh,heh" 1/25 or 1/24 scale Cadillacs 1950's or others that are older and not the OVER RATED 59 puke barge. Any builders? Would love to see some. Maybe conversions.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:03 AM
Check out e-bay just do a search for hearses then check to the laft and click model kits
I have bought about 10 of them on ebay great 66 hearses and ambulances.
You can also find resin bodies on ebay
You have to check often the plastic kits are Johan and were discontinued a long time ago so plan to spend at least $50.00 on 1
Good luck
here are some pics of mine
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Friday, February 01, 2008 2:11 PM
Well I was going to post a pic of some of mine but a few are probably examples of 'puke barges' whatever the Censored that means...

there's a couple of resin bodies to go with Galaxie's 46-48 Chevy but you're scratchbuilding if you want a Caddy that's not a '59 or '66.
Mike
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Posted by Valag on Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:59 PM
Here's one I just wrapped up..



More pics here: http://public.fotki.com/Valagevermore/57-chevy-nomad-hearse/
DON'T TOUCH THAT!!!! It's still drying. http://public.fotki.com/Valag/
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Posted by seboam on Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Valag

Here's one I just wrapped up..



More pics here: http://public.fotki.com/Valagevermore/57-chevy-nomad-hearse/

Now thats what I want to be layed out in!
http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o62/easy5_bucket/ If there is no dust in the paint, then I didn't do it....
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Posted by hotrod1 on Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Valag

Here's one I just wrapped up..



More pics here: http://public.fotki.com/Valagevermore/57-chevy-nomad-hearse/

I have to say it too.
Awesome Hearse.
The yellow headlights look scarie.
Like right out of Horror movie.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Valag

Here's one I just wrapped up..



More pics here: http://public.fotki.com/Valagevermore/57-chevy-nomad-hearse/


thats awsome, how did you get the lights to glow? lighting on the inside?
Greatr job
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Posted by Valag on Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:52 AM
I think this thread will answer most of your questions: http://www.scaleautomag.com/sca/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=64468
DON'T TOUCH THAT!!!! It's still drying. http://public.fotki.com/Valag/
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Posted by mademan on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:58 AM
heres a few of my "puke barges"
I ****`n Love hearses.



I have more but they are packed away.
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Posted by ModelDave on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:01 PM
****!! I thought I had a lot!! Talk about cornering the market.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:44 PM
I have been looking everywhere for a hearse, any help on getting one would be appreciated. j.carlos67@yahoo.com
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Posted by LaNomo on Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:37 PM
Hey mademan, any chance of me takin one of those heavenly hearses off your hands?
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Posted by LaNomo on Saturday, March 01, 2008 4:01 PM
Oh yea. Also does anyone know of a more detailed engine replacement for the hearse? Im working on one right now and im just not happy with it. Building the engine is my favorite part of doing a model.
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:10 PM
Scot I don't want to detract from your original post but since you haven't come back in here for a while I hope you won't mind. I wasgoing to make this a seperate post but since all the hearse guys are here anyway...

I bought a Jo-Han Heavely Hearse recently to build, since I already had another one that was unmade. When it arrived it was moulded in white (rather than the turquoise I've usually seen them in) and had two surfboards, coffin grips and various other bits that I didn't have in my other HH kit. Same box though.
My question is does anyone know if there was more than one issue of the Heavenly Hearse kit with slightly different parts such as one in the 1970's then another in the 80s, or was my other kit lacking some pieces such as the surfboards?
I know they were moulded in whatever colour Jo-Han had laying around but were the white ones the first issue and later came everything else?
Only want to know as it'll probably decree which one I build.
Any info appreciated.
Thanks
Mike

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Posted by american muscle78 on Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:32 AM
Scot I got a chopped 59 caddy hearse body off ebay. They had a normal body avalialble too but this was a year ago.
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Posted by mademan on Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Cycolac Fan

Scot I don't want to detract from your original post but since you haven't come back in here for a while I hope you won't mind. I wasgoing to make this a seperate post but since all the hearse guys are here anyway...

I bought a Jo-Han Heavely Hearse recently to build, since I already had another one that was unmade. When it arrived it was moulded in white (rather than the turquoise I've usually seen them in) and had two surfboards, coffin grips and various other bits that I didn't have in my other HH kit. Same box though.
My question is does anyone know if there was more than one issue of the Heavenly Hearse kit with slightly different parts such as one in the 1970's then another in the 80s, or was my other kit lacking some pieces such as the surfboards?
I know they were moulded in whatever colour Jo-Han had laying around but were the white ones the first issue and later came everything else?
Only want to know as it'll probably decree which one I build.
Any info appreciated.
Thanks
Mike




as far as I know the only issue of the hauin hearse was the orig. 70s issue. the ambulance however was re-issued in 2000. Of all the Heavenly hearses i have ive got ones moulded in turqouise, white, yellow(also haulin hearse was moulded in yellow) and ive got a Rare one moulded in black which was a promo for hobby shops, which came in an unmarked brown box with a picture of a hearse taped to the front.

As for a more detailed engine, Im currently building one with a chev. 427 out of the 67 impala street machine with the tpi. Ive also got plans of using a VCG resins 572 dual efi that i have here.

as far as me selling/trading any, .... sorry I have spent a pretty penny on these with posting ads in local papers, buying and shipping, etc.
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:11 AM
I certainly didn't realise the ambulance was reissued in 2000 - was that by Jo-Han, or X-EL?

The Haulin' Hearse has been out at least twice, there's the first issue in a flat box like the original hearse and ambulances came in (I know cos I've got one), and the second issue in the oblong box as shown in your picture.

As far as I now the Heavenly Hearse only ever came in the later style oblong box, and the final kit in the series the RRRoaring RRRambulance (ambulance version of the Haulin' Hearse) only came in the flat box and hasn't been reissued - unless anyone knows different?

As I understand it the original issue stock hearse was a promo issue for the funeral trade, commisioned by Miller-Meteor (???) to give to customers. Once the tooling was finished with, around 1967 (?) it was issued as a stock hearse kit and then spawned the Fire rescue ambulance, Heavenly, Hauling and Roarin' variants.
As I say, unless anyone KNOWS different.
Mike
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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:48 AM
Got chance to take photos of a couple of my resins in the to-be-completed pile

Barnette body on 1946-48 Chevrolet



Criterion (?) body on a 1959 Pontiac (not its most flattering angle)



These are both still available through eBay.
Mike
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Posted by LaNomo on Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:58 PM
Hey thanks for replying. I want to keep the same style engine I don;t want anything crazy, just more detailed. I guess some aftermarket partsand some scrachbuiling will have to do. I figured you wouldnt sell me any kits, I don't blame you I wouldnt either. I just recently found out about the one molded in black, I want one so bad. The hearse is modeled after a 1966 Caldillac Miller-Meteor Citation. There are a few sites you can go to where you can see the Miller-Meteor brochures from that year. The picture on the side of the box comes directly from that brochure. The only thing missing is the M/M logo on the back fender right in front of the taillights. I actually almost bought a real 1:1 of the same car years ago, and I have found another one for sale. I just have to talk the people down a bit on the price and find a place to put the car and work on it. I have had 3 hearse kits over the years. My first one was when I was about 6 or 7 years old and I bought it from Ben Franklin. That one was molded in yellow. Then my sister destroyed it. Then I found another one from Hobby Heaven when I was 16 and that one was molded in a vanilla color. My most recent one was purchased from e-bay about a month ago and that one was molded in the turquoise color. There is also a diffrence in quality between the tan and green one. The green one has got a huge amount of casting flash on almost every part. Some parts are even completely surrounded by it. The engines are diffrent, the body quality is a little less in the green one, and the little "step" in front of the back door is diffrent. On the tan one it was much bigger and had an "L" shape to it. The green one is just a small straight indent. I wonder if the green one was maybe the first issue of the kit and thats why its a litlle rougher, before they got all the kinks worked out. Or maybe it was the last after all the molds had been used after many years. I would love to see old photos of the old building and learn some history of the company and the hearse kit in particular. Oh well.
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Posted by mademan on Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:16 PM
Im not quite sure what yuo mean by the step up being, "L shaped" I took a look at my black one, my white one, and my creme/vanilla colored ones and they are all the same.
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Posted by scot on Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:03 AM
I have a "Heavenly Hearse" molded in lavender and one molded in turquoise. Also have an original flat box with the casket. Saw somebody resin cast a 60 on ebay about a year ago, but wasn't able to buy at the time. Looks like I'll have to try and scratch build my own.
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Posted by modeltruckshop on Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:29 AM
Hey cycolac fan, the black version had a little diffrent accesory package(I THINK) because it included a church truck and maybe a casket as well if memory serves. I'm thinking that the later hippie versions with the surf boards didn't include these. Been a long time though. Glue fumes might have killed some memory cells.
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Posted by LaNomo on Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:05 PM
I tried to post a pic to show you what I mean but it wouldnt let me, or I dont know what im doing which is a better bet. The little "step" in the back on the interior tub on my vanilla one is kinda "L" shaped. Its small an narrow on the rear end right along the door, but about a 1/3 of the way twords the front, it juts out twords the middle. Maybe a better description would be if you hold the piece straght up in front of yourself with the front pointed down, it would look more like a lower case "b". It also has two little pins that stick up on the front edge of it. It sorta looks like it would be meant for a fold down jump seat or something. The real hearse I looked at was actually quite similar to it. Maybe it was meant to be a combination hearse/ambulance..? I just think its strange hows theres so many diffrences between all of the kits along the years. As I said before if anyone knows some history about the company and this kit in paticular, please share it. It must be a pretty amazing story. Now I must return to my search for the black promo kit.Wink
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Posted by modeltruckshop on Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:19 PM
Lanomo, Are they all the heavenly hearse or is one the ambulance by any chance???? I am not motivated to go dig through the boxes(read lazy) maybe over the weekend. I know I have both down in the basement. In a real hearse the roll-a-deck is elevated above the floor of the car. It has the rollers for the casket. The casket doesn't stay on the church truck. In an ambulance the person stays on the cot. The two shouldn't look the same. Is there a chance that even at Jo-han the interiors could get swapped? I'll have to dig them out just for my own curiosity if nothing else.I'll repost in a day or two if nobody else has.
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Posted by LaNomo on Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:04 PM
I dont know what the interior of the ambulance looks like as I have never owned one. I believe that the larger "step" is meant to represent a fold down jump-seat. Also the floor has 3 rectangles molded into it which I also believe are meant to be the flip-over panels that came in professional cars of this era.

If you look at this link, http://www.classiccarprojects.com/htmlfiles/1966Cadalliacwhitehearse.html, you can see the panels in the floor and also the jump-seat in its folded-down form. The panels are flat on one side and have rollers one the other. Most funeral homes of this era also ran ambulance services for hospitals, so the panels could flipped accordingly. Flat side up for ambulance, rollers up for hearse. That is what they mean by it being a "combination" coach.

On my turquoise kit, the step is just a narrow indent next to the door with the casket rollers and bier pin holders molded in place, ( which I have to find a way to remove as I am putting a real wood floor in and scratch building a slide out casket table ). Im a bit surprised that nobody else has had another kit like this. Maybe I have a one of a kind! LOL
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Posted by LaNomo on Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:06 PM
Apparently the link doesnt work from here. Copy it and use it from yahoo or something of that nature.
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Posted by scot on Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:22 PM
In a combo the rollers for the casket would actually flip over to create a flat floor for the hospital gurney with hooks in the floor to lock it in place. Most low top combo coaches were used in small towns as dual purpose vehicles or by big city large funeral homes as "first call" vehicles. Remember a coach was and still is a custom built car. 98% were and are still built to order,with lead time being 3 to 6 months. So even the cheapest models are VERY expensive. New coaches today start at 80 to 90 G's. So 60's early coaches were starting in 10 grand range.
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Posted by modeltruckshop on Friday, March 07, 2008 6:54 AM
Lanomo, if you check throught the resin area on e-bay there is some one who occasionally offers a resin roll-a-deck and some one offers a casket as well. I have seen it there quite a few times.It may help with your build.


Scot the funeral home my wife works for uses miini-vans and suburbans for first call vehicles and they get a large number of people who honestly expected to see a hearse pull up for the removal. They occasionally get someone who requests it even. Maybe a first call van would be a neat model subject as well.
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Posted by LaNomo on Friday, March 07, 2008 11:18 AM
Hey thanks for the help with the roll-a-deck. I checked there but I didnt see any. I'll just build one. I've had it planned out in my head for awhile now. Besides I want to put a real wood bottom in that as well. Plus wheres the fun in buying something when you can just build it?Big Smile And scot, you are absolutley right. People dont realize that funeral homes are extremely private places and one of the only things that people get to see is the hearse, so it is usually the pride of the home. Its nothing for a home to spend huge amounts of money on a hearse because they want people to know that they are an upstanding organization. Like I said on my earlier post tho, I am kind of surprised that no one else has seen a kit like mine. If anyone has let me know so everyone else doesnt think im nuts.Laugh
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Posted by Geezerman on Saturday, March 08, 2008 5:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Valag

Here's one I just wrapped up..



More pics here: http://public.fotki.com/Valagevermore/57-chevy-nomad-hearse/


That's bad to the bone!
Nice work.
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