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Posted by Chuck Kourouklis on Friday, October 12, 2018 7:15 PM

AAAAH, NOW I see what a certain participant in this thread was talking about - and how it's not quite the way he represented it elsewhere.

You know who you are.  You're really going to make yourself out as the victim in that exchange?

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Posted by highway76 on Friday, October 12, 2018 9:02 PM

midnightprowler

Ok you 2 whiners, give me a example of a single perfect kit. You can't because they don't exist and never will. I know 2 people that have them in their garages and they see nothing really worth complaining about. Maybe you guys should start a model company and make perfect models. 

 

Here are my two cents, and if this throws me into the group of "whiners", so be it. The problem I see with this, and as well as the Salvino's Olds kit as well and any other kits where innacuracies are noticed and pointed out, the masses of the "rainbows and unicorns" crowd that says "Oh, we don't care if it is wrong, we're just happy to have a new model" is just going to keep innacuracies coming from the kit manufacturers because rather than taking some constrcutive critism from those that know what they are talking about and fixing issues BEFORE the kit hits the market, the companies are just going to say "The ones that don't care are still going to gobble this kit up, so why should we worry about fixing it." No kit is 100% perfect, but when there are issues that can be seen by people who know the vehicle well and body demensions DON'T look right, those should be addressed. Also, in this world of technology, things such as CAD and laser scanning should be used on new subjects, not a tape measure. 

I guess I just see it this way, and since I build a wide variety of subjects and have a wide variety of import kits like Tamiya and Aoshima, I would rather buy a subject that is correct to the appearance of the 1:1 from Tamiya and spend a few dollars more for those kits than ones that are "close enough". I have quite a few kits of vehicles in my interests from a foreign manufacture that have domestic counterparts, but the foreign kit is the one in my collection because in some case for just $5 or $10 more than the domestic counterpart, the level of accuracy and detail in the foreign counterpart is well worth my few extra bucks. 

"Failure is ALWAYS an option" - Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Posted by Chuck Kourouklis on Friday, October 12, 2018 9:47 PM

Roger that, 76. Comes to it, wasn't Monogram's first '69 Camaro also reported to be very true to its taped measurements?  A sugar cube could scale out a perfect 1/24 of a basketball - in linear measurements.  That's the kind of thing LIDAR would never allow, and Revell's accuracy game has shot up mightily when they've used it.

Meantime, seeing who's on the wrong side of these discussions is as simple as following the name-callers - even Art Anderson, who has an actual REASON to take this personally, hasn't resorted to that.

And it just drops my jaw that one of the name-callers in this thread actually views HIMSELF as the aggrieved party.

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Posted by gulftarpon on Saturday, October 13, 2018 2:56 PM

It looks great to me. Glad to see the Flareside being the first issue. If there are differences or discrepancies, I don't see them being noticeable. I plan to get this kit and enjoy it. I've been waiting for them to release Flareside versions of the 68-72 as well. Here's hoping they decide to do the 1961-1963 and the 1957-1960. I love the old AMT kits, but I can't and won't pay $150 for one.

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Posted by Arthur Anderson on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:28 AM

Plowboy

I hope this is a very early test shot. The entire green house looks wrong. 

Uh, I spent a full day with Dave Metzner, product development guy for Moebius, in far western Illinois, photographing, AND measuring 3 or 4 F-100's of this vintage, and yes, that roof and windshield ARE the correct height!

 

 

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Posted by midnightprowler on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:59 AM

That's not good enough for them Art. If it isn't right to them it's not right for anyone, and you didn't do your job. Nonetheless, I like it.

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Posted by Chuck Kourouklis on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:24 AM

Oh, I see.  Well if there's anything more to your assumptions than baseless speculation, surely you can point to a specific incident of someone telling you you can't like the kit.

Why don't you show us one, Lee.

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Posted by Plowboy on Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:26 AM

Saw a buildup of the '66 styleside on another board and just as I expected, it's on the same wrong chassis as the previous F-100s. While the '65-'72s shared the same chassis, the Moebius chassis is a '73 up (copied from the old AMT F-350) that has a different design. Especially with the front suspension. Same inaccurate rearend.

It has one the worst looking dual exhausts that I've ever seen on a kit. They have it sandwiched between the cross members and floorpan and against both sides of the transmission. It should have a single exhaust with a crossover pipe routed under the cross members and exit on the passenger side.

The floorpan actually looks pretty good and is much closer to the bottom of the cab than the previous F-100s. The underhood detail is much better and fairly accurate. The engine is a disaster. Looks like a Lego piece.

The roof doesn't look as tall as the one in this thread. The brow above the windshield also looks better. The  rear of the roof is way off with far too much crown.

The front fender bulges are off along with the wheel openings. Too rounded. The leading edge of the front fenders looks to be too vertical and the grille is flat looking at the bottom. The headlight surrounds are better proportioned with the headlights. 

That's what I noticed in the photos I saw. As much as I would like to build a '65 and/or a '66 F-100, there's just too many issues for me to attempt to fix. Some of  the fixes would be fairly simple. Some would be difficult like the rear of the roof. They are better than the previous F-100s that Moebius produced. But, that's not a big leap. 

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Posted by rebel70 on Thursday, November 22, 2018 2:25 AM

Here is My Reply, Being a Model Builder for Over 40 Years,I Myself Really Dont Care if the Truck is 100% Accurate,I'm Just Glad some Model Companies are taking the tim to Invest Time And Resources To Make a New Kit, believe me being in the automotive so subjects re sought after and we will take what we can get and if not happy we will correct ourselves being modelers

 

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Posted by gulftarpon on Thursday, November 22, 2018 12:11 PM

I'm looking forward to this one! I also wonder if the step bed will find its way into the '67-'72 kit?

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Posted by 70 mist green on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 12:06 PM

Art

I gues not everyone appreciates how much time and work goes into making  a new mold and offering a new kit to the market 

it is a ton a ton of worK! From the conversation we had at our club meeting last year I have a better understanding of what it takes 

from one modler to another I thank you 

im always grateful  and happy to see new kits offered 

thank you again 

tim 

 

 

 

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