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1/12 Tamiya Datsun 240ZG

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1/12 Tamiya Datsun 240ZG
Posted by stump on Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:56 PM

 Hey guys,

Thought I'd share my latest with you. I'm heading into another faze in life....that of larger scale building. My eyes are not what they used to be, fact is they've gone downhill considerably in the last 18 months....to a point I am finding it difficult to work on the smaller stuff, which really annoys me as I have way too much yet to do......oh well, see what happens. As it is, ALL my 1/25 projects are on hold, indefinately...Sad

I dabbled in 1/12 as a kid.....most kits didn't survive, apart from 2 Tamiya F-1's, which still have shelf space, but are in a sad state of dis-repair...old glue has failed on them......Shock I'll touch them up one day....

I've had one of these Tamiya 240ZG's on my hit-list (want list) for years... finally found one at a price I was agreeable to, so I just had to have it..Wink It will not be built box stock. There's a surprise...NOT !...Laugh

I just love the size of these things.....along side it's 1/24 counterpart from Fujimi, it looks huge.....

There is enough detail already in them, but I'll be adding as much more as I can.....I have a set of "tripples" lined up, need to make my own inlet manifold...I'll make some tube extractors-headers and a few more goodies to the engine bay. Maybe a cage to the interior.....

Continues.......

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Posted by stump on Saturday, March 7, 2009 3:19 PM

 One thing which got my attension once it was opened up, I knew it was not going to get the stock wheels/tyres....Dead I know they look kool, but I want super-kool.......Y'know how hard it is to find aftermarket parts for 1/12..?? Well yeah, that's what I thought....Blindfold

I have lots of pics saved on my 'puter from reseach, nealy all have Watanabe's fitted to their 1:1 ride...that's what I want....

I searched high and low...online, all my local hobby shops who sell RC stuff......NOTHING ! Oh yeah, they make some fantastic wheels in 1/10, but on this they would look like 20's..............YUK !Laugh I even bought some "replacement" spares from Tamiya.....they look terrible, and are still the stock size of 14 inch......Oh well, I'll make my own.....

These are going to be 16 x 8.5 and 16 x 9.5, I'm also going to make my own tyres.......225/45VR16 and 245/45VR16. 

This is what I had to start with..Stock kit combo, bottom left. Tamiya "spare parts", bottom right. And mine, so far..top..

The tyre master is made up from several layers of .010 strip. I've almost got it to the size I need, still a couple of layers of tread to add yet. I'll incorperate my tread pattern into these final layers. I'm leaning towards TOYO as a brand, mainly cause it will be the easiest..I think I've come up with a way to add that sort of detail to the sidewalls...STILL, a very long way to go.....lots more sanding and shaping....I want that s t r e t c h e d look that they get with these cars tyres....Cool

 

 

Hope to have some more to share with y'all soon guys....But please, do not wait for an update on my smaller builds for a long while.

You can track my progress here as well.... Big Datto....

Cheers and thanks for stopping by....

Greg

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, March 7, 2009 7:06 PM

I'm looking at the instruction sheet and thinking "he wants more detail than THAT!?" You sir, are a sucker for punishment and I can't wait to see how this turns out.

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Posted by stump on Saturday, March 7, 2009 7:16 PM

 Laugh 

Thanks Mike. Yep, I figure at least with this scale I'll be able to see the detail I'm adding....Wink

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Posted by modelsinc1967 on Saturday, March 7, 2009 8:43 PM

Ill be watching this build I have wanted one of those kits forever, just can't come up with the cash to get one, however can't wait to see it done...

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Posted by stump on Saturday, March 7, 2009 11:12 PM

 Thanks mate..Smile

Yeah, I waited a long time before jumping on this one......good thing is, they are getting cheaper..? Saw one go for only $49 in the U.S. just last week.....I nearly grabed it too.....Laugh

Small update...

Ok, got one side puttied, sanded and primed...just to see what else needs attention... I made an adapter from an old rim so I could mount it in my dremmel..(cheap imitation...) to check for trueness..It appears when I glued the sidewalls to the tread layer, one of my sidewalls moved..Angry..so I'm just getting one side squared up, then I'll re-do the other side....

Checking fit, stock height......

 Again, checking fit/clearances... it rubs the front valance when turned, but hopefully will clear once the sidewall to tread area is shaped some more.....This is about the height I want to achieve.....

More soon guys.....

cheers

Greg

 

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Posted by modelsinc1967 on Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:00 AM

You say $49.00 for an unfinished kit? Was that ebay? I seen one on there a few days ago for $49.00 but that one was half started. But if it wasn't then $49.00 is a bargain.

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Posted by modelsinc1967 on Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:06 AM

 This actually is the one I have been watching and waiting for, the rally version...

one of these days, one of these days Thumbs Up

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Posted by stump on Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:10 AM

Ah, ok...Yep, that would be kool too...think I've seen them for about $69-70 USD on ebay...

The 240ZG I saw was new, but open....

"HAS BEEN OPENED BUT COMPLETE, INCLUDING INSTRUCTIONS. BOX SHOWS MINIMAL WEAR."

As quoted on ebay site......A steal.......Wink

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Posted by 89forumla on Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:51 AM

 This is an awesome build.  I can't wait to see those wheels and tires when they are done. 

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Posted by stump on Monday, March 16, 2009 1:12 AM

Thanks  89formula....Smile

 Small update....

Spent a good part of the weekend filling and sanding the tyre again....got it looking pretty smooth eventually...Also fixed up my sidewall which had gone wonky on me...the rims now fit perfect on both sides.... Wink

I then turned my attension to the tread....I'm not 100% on the centre rib, but once all the tread blocks are on, I think it will work ok...These will be a loose representation (my version..) of a TOYO street radial...."Any similarity between these and any 1:1 Toyo is purely coincidental".....Big Smile The T and Y are carved from .005 sheet, the two O's are sliced tube.

I hope to complte the tread area through the course of this week....see how we go..........

More soon...thanks for stopping by.

Greg

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Posted by MkIII on Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:08 AM

 Very impressive, that tire alone speaks volumes to your skill. I'll look forward to watching your progress. Thumbs Up

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Posted by Maximus on Saturday, March 28, 2009 1:04 PM

I agree, This is most impressive. The 240 being one of my all time favorite cars.

So many kits, So little time
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Posted by stump on Saturday, March 28, 2009 1:35 PM

 Thanks guys....Smile

Well, I did finally get all the tread laid on.....talk about time consuming...Laugh Also shot some colour, just to make it easier to see...I was going to try and lay the tire sizings around the tire too...the "225/45V16"....but I've yet to work out how to do it......the final product may have it, if I can work it out....have to wait and see..... Confused I've started on the rear tire, same deal, only 2-3mm wider and about 4mm taller....so I won't bore you all with pics of it......Here's the front, done......

 

 I was just checking for clearance here...the fenders will need some more lip removed, but it will clear ok...all fitted onto stock brakes and coilover, so that no mods will be nessesary...'less you want to drop the ride height, like me....Laugh

I ordered some tiny nuts and bolts from Scale Hardware the other week too...they arrived a couple of days ago. Big Smile I'll use them in a variety of locations, wheel studs, motor bolts (to mount accessories) and suspension, plus I got a few to add on the over-fenders... It will make painting a whole lot easier, and I wont have to glue them on.....

I started to make up a set of exhaust headers yesterday...in between waiting on tire work to dry....the headers will be twin "3 into 1" style, leading to twin pipes all the way to the back. I'll probably make some mufflers to suit as well...

That's all for now guys, thanks for following along.

cheers

Greg

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Posted by Atmobil on Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:50 PM

Wow!! Great work on this one. This is an amazing model isn't it? I got one like that that has been built. I think it is the original issue, it got the recipt taped to the inside of the lid and it is datet Mai 10. 1975 I thinkSmile Love your work on the wheels, how have you made the threadpattern? Have you made it from blocks, one by one?

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Posted by stump on Friday, April 3, 2009 4:58 PM

 Thank you Gaute. Make a Toast

Yes, the entire tread was made from .005 diamond shapes cut from flat plastic..very time consuming.....Laugh ALL individual pieces......Wink

While waiting for glue to dry on the rear tire I have stated....I set to work on an exhaust system.. I wanted "tuned" length header pipes. I started with 3mm plastic rod, the first set ended up in the bin.Angry I could see this was going to waste too much stock, so I went to my hardware store and got a roll of solder.

The end result is much more pleasing.....They are two groups of 3 pipes, twin 3-pipe collectors are ex-Ferrari...they will continue with duel pipes all the way to the tail....

 

That's all for now....stay tuned guys...


cheers

Greg

Atmobil

Wow!! Great work on this one. This is an amazing model isn't it? I got one like that that has been built. I think it is the original issue, it got the recipt taped to the inside of the lid and it is datet Mai 10. 1975 I thinkSmile Love your work on the wheels, how have you made the threadpattern? Have you made it from blocks, one by one?


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Posted by stump on Friday, May 15, 2009 4:51 AM

 Hello, back with an update for you.....about 14 pages......just kidding.Wink

Wow, I totally forgot about updating this here.......oops......Blush

Well, first up....the exhaust changed direction. It is now a large diameter single, not twin........I adapted the 2-to-1 pipe connector from the kit, and am running back through my own "hotdog" style muffler to the modified kit muffler in the rear......

Continues.........

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Posted by stump on Friday, May 15, 2009 4:59 AM

 I also started on some body/chassis work.

The body was molded with the top half of the radiator panel and firewall in place, the chassis had the base of both these items molded. I wanted to have them look like one piece, so I cut off the top sections from the body. The firewall was matched up and re-attached, the top of the radiator panel is all new....I made it to more closely resemble that of a 1:1....

The G-nose was also installed at this point.

Continues.......

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Posted by marcusadam on Friday, May 15, 2009 5:05 AM

Bow amazing work!! been watching this with interest. glad to see an update!!!

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Posted by stump on Friday, May 15, 2009 5:12 AM

 SUSPENSION...

This is where I've had the most fun......

With memories of having one of these (Safari version) as a young kid (over 35 years oago...), I knew that the suspension was going to need some special treatment...Wink The loose fit of the main suspension components has been a concern I've held for this kit.....It is good, but I want better......

First up.....The front struts are "pushed" into place into rubber grommets in the inner fender tops. I made some new tops that will have 3 tiny bolts inserted, so they can now bolt in place.

By doing this, it also allows me to effectively lower the front by approx 3mm...

Continues......

 

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Posted by stump on Friday, May 15, 2009 5:26 AM

 Hey Marcus, thanks mate..Smile Glad you like her..Wink

Now, the "loose" or overly free fitting parts that have my attention are in the main suspension components.

I tackled the rear first. The instructions call for the 2-piece uprights to be glued around the wishbone member pivot point.......all the while, being ever so careful not to let glue contact the area which needs movement.......Confused The area here, I have circled in red.

After some thought, I jumped right in and glued the 2-piece uprights together.........I gave the glue lots of time to cure, then carefully ran a drill bit through the bore, ready to accept a length of plastic tube. I then removed the old pivot bar fron the wishbone, and drilled a hole in both sides to take bolts. This is the result.....A very tight, no play joint...still with full movement......

Continues......

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Posted by stump on Friday, May 15, 2009 5:36 AM

 Moving back to the front, a similar method was applied here. The control arm attaches by "clipping" into place with the front cross member. The mounting pins are at the right end in this pic.....

I removed these pins and drilled the part to accept another bolt. It is fitted through this and into the cross member.

After all is done, the control arm still has full movement, but none of the unwanted forward/backward movement of before...Smile

Ok, I think that's up to date.....of course there are plenty more pics at Fotki....including some pics of the rear tyre progress....and heaps more. I didn't want to overload the place here....Laugh

Thanks for stopping by, hope you all enjoy.

cheers

Greg

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Posted by dueseylvr on Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:19 PM

This an amazing project.  I like the way you've made the suspension functional.  The tires are incredible. Did you layout the tread design on a computer?  I hope we see some updates soon!

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Posted by american muscle78 on Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:58 PM

This is ungodly amazing. I couldnt imagine ever building something this great and complex. Cant wait to see it finished cause im sure it will be museum worthy.

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Posted by Vegas13 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:40 PM

 This Is immaculate. i am waiting for the day that i can get a 1/12 model of any sort.

and i plan on putting this amount of effort and detail into it

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Posted by Gedmo240 on Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:21 PM

 

hey stump!!!  when i saw.. 1/12 240z....  right away i thought it was you!!!!!  Bow  

 

ive seen more of this beast on SPC =)   

 

im going to post my final pictures from my civic!!.. im going to post the whole progress =D 

 

 

great work! ;)

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Posted by stump on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:38 AM

 Thanks Dueseylvr, AM78, Vegas13 and Gedmo..Smile

Yeah, sorry guys, as Gedmo pointed out, this has progressed some.....too many fingers in the pot I'm afraid.... Blush Clown

To bring you'll up to speed, here's an update.......

Exhaust............Finished ! The "U"-bolt is home bent, I also made the clamp and the base it all attaches to. The "rubber" strap is made from a small zip tie...

Continues......

 

 


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Posted by stump on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:42 AM

 Closer look at the clamp and mount, along with a breakdown of parts...

Continues.....

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Posted by stump on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:53 AM

 Ok, you'll need to bare with me here.....this is where the build goes slightly askew....................Confused

Whilst this build has been in progress, I bought another, the Safari version. I got this for the triple webber carb set-up.....Yeah, nuts, I know...Laugh ..BUT, I figured I could use the Safari car as a basis for a stock showrrom type build.....It will get the stock wheels and tyres from this kit, along with the stock twin Solex carbs and stock front seats.....E A S Y !!........Big Smile....Well, NOT !!

The major hurdle I found was that the Safari car had no spare wheel housing or a stock fuel tank......Censored

So, I thought I'd keep the good fuel tank and spare wheel housing from this one, and make NEW items for it.......

Continues......

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Posted by stump on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 2:04 AM

 I then did a little interior work.....

The glovebox lid is a separate piece, as the Safari version shares the main dash...Trouble was, the lid was cast very thick, and is designed to just glue in place...I decided to open it.....

And sorry for not addressing your comment earlier Dueseylvr Blush, the suspension is already functional straight from the box, I just beefed things up a little...Wink and the tread is ALL hand cut diamond shapes from .005 plastic...very time consuming..Dead

Tyres and wheels are completed and have gone to get cast up...Awaiting their return.....

Continues.......

 

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