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WIP 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod

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WIP 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod
Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:41 AM

I've been pending most of my Summer working on projects for the magazine. With the bulk of it taken care of, I decided to get back to a project of my own. I enjoy the magazine work but it's also nice to be able to build something with no rules, obligations or time constraints.

 I've had a lot of people ask me about my drag cars and ask me why I never built a Pro Mod. More than anything I had so many NHRA cars I wanted to do, I never really paid much attention to them. After getting beat up for so long, I finally decided to try one. I picked up a handful of bodies from Slixx until I found one that made me smile. This is the Flashpoint Resins 70.5 Camaro.

 

And here's the body with some clean up done. My plan is to get this one to go back together when finished. Doors that will open and close, and the hood that will go back on. I'd like to be able to show it all opened up or completely buttoned up, race ready.

Once I get the chassis done I'll start cutting it apart.



One of the first things I started working on was a new clutch can and Lenco transmission. These are two separate pieces, just tacked together. Both were machined on both the lathe and the mill. This will get a lot more stuff added to it as things progress. You can also see a small start to the completely scratch built chassis.




My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:43 AM

And here's my favorite part so far. My first set of machined wheels. After a lot of coaching from my buddy Dave Sherman and a lot of cheerleading, I was able to produce an almost matching set of rear wheels, wheel centers, and bead locks. These will get some more bolt details once I get another order from Scale Hardware in. The bead locks took roughly 45 minutes each to make. The wheels probably took and hour to an hour and a half each, and the centers were probably another hour and a half each. Lots of labor, but man, you can't beat the results. Once installed in the slicks and detailed out, they should look really cool!

 

My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:46 AM

 I've also been working away on the chassis. I worked slowly, area by area until it started to come together. I still have a bit more to go. I need to finish the funny car cage, add all the tabs and brackets, and a few more bars. But the bulk of it is done and fits the body really well.





My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:47 AM

I also got the rear end under way. The center section is a resin piece from TEM. I removed all their brackets and added my own PE ones mounted on aluminum tubing. I still need to add a few more tabs and this will be ready for paint.

My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:48 AM

I'm starting to get my fall fire going here and have been hammering away all weekend on my Pro Mod. Like I've said before, I really want to improve on my final product when it comes to these doorslammers. I want my doors to open and close with ease, and for the front clip to go on and off with no issues. I'd like to be able to have the car look complete, and then five seconds later be all opened up like they normally are.

I got back to the chassis first. Lots of test fitting, measuring and luck I was able to get the rear portion of the body mounted to the chassis and establish where my door pivots would be. Hinges were added to the chassis, and the connectors to the doors. I've got some mini magnets coming this week that I will embed in the doors so when they shut, they will be held tight. Until a bit of pressure to pop them open, then they will swing open nicely.

Here's how it's looking after two days of work.






My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:49 AM

A few more....




 

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Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:50 AM

 I've also been working on the rear suspension.

I scratch built a new wheelie bar from styrene and shot it with various Alclads. The rod ends are RB. The diff was painted and I machined up a new set of hubs/rotors as well as a new upper wishbone. It's actually still floating right now, but once everything is assembled, it will be mounted permanently.





My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by ClayK on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:52 AM

The chassis is almost complete too. All of the mounts are added, as well as a new sheet plastic firewall. Just a few more small things and it will be ready for paint and clear.

That's it for now. Back to work!!

CK

My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by 1320wayne on Monday, September 20, 2010 7:24 AM

 Awesome work Clay, as usual. I noticed this one in your album about three months ago and have been wondering when you were going to get back to it. The progress looks great.

 

Are you planning to have this one done for Atlanta this year? 

"Those who try, get passed up by those who do" "Life comes at you a quarter mile at a time" http://public.fotki.com/1320wayne/
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Posted by MISTERTWISTER on Monday, September 20, 2010 3:23 PM

This already looks outstanding and the work on the wheels and bead locks is simply fantastic. Good stuff!

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Posted by pharr7226 on Monday, September 20, 2010 4:43 PM

 WOW!  The chassis looks great.  I really like the work of the firewall.  The machined stuff is
ridiculously good.

 

 

 

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Posted by 12SCNDZ on Monday, September 20, 2010 5:46 PM

Clay, There is one word that keeps coming to mind when I see your work....AMAZING!!!  Great work on all of your builds.

 

Frank

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Posted by pricet2006 on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:44 PM

Clay your work is always Outstanding, I'm glad to see you are doing a pro mod, I love the cage work. What are you going to use for the power plant??? The funny thing is I am working on the same body now, and I'm ashamed to post the pics now after seeing this masterpiece, Thanks Alot Clay lol, seriously a big fan of your work, those wheels are Awesome...

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Posted by bobbyj on Monday, September 20, 2010 7:08 PM

 AWESOME WORK!!!!!!!! I am SOOOOOO JELIOUS!! what did you use for hinges? got any close up shots of them?

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Posted by PRO MOD NOVA on Monday, September 20, 2010 9:03 PM

Wow nice work sir indeed Your workmanship is fantastic.  I love promod cars and I have seen some pretty wild ones on here.  Just keep the pics coming  Bow

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Posted by Len Woodruff on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:53 AM

Great job so far Clay. Looking for more!!

 

Bow

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:20 AM

AWESOME work as usual Clay!! I've been wanting to start a new drag car build and this might just give me the motivation to actually do it. One question I have (and it's a problem that I ran into when I built my first scratchbuilt chassis) is how are you going to do the interior "tin" work and trans tunnel?

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Posted by ClayK on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:07 AM

 Thanks for all the replies guys.

 There isn't much tin work in this car. There's really no tranny tunnel. At the back of the Lenco there will be a small shielded tunnel and that's it. The floor pans all come up from the bottom. The rear wheel tubs and trunk will be about the hardest part I think.

 

Clay

My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by futurattraction on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:05 AM

Phenomenal work, Clay.  I'm just curious, how much time did you have on this build, up to the point you've shown, so far, in your photo documentation?  Your machining of the Lenco and rear wheels is a work of art.  Modding the rearend housing to incorporate the PE 4-link brackets lends a great touch to the overall detailing, not to mention all the cage and frame work... Wow!


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Posted by DeLaunhardt on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:18 AM

Incredible work! I need to learn this so I will be following this with baited breath! ( No mints!)Approve

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Posted by moparmaniac2 on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:19 PM

this really cool clay, i think it is intresting that we can talk to some of the best builders around that some of us only see in the magezines.

great work, thanks for the insperation Bow

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Posted by bobthehobbyguy on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:48 PM

Really nice work.  I am curious about how the back part of the rims look.  Could you post a couple of picture

 

Thanks,

bobthehobbyguy

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Posted by gasser59 on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:09 PM
Clay, Clay, Clay...what can I say? This is an outstanding creation! So nice to see progress pix of one of the magazine builders. I would like to know more about your mill and lathe as the metal pieces you've machined look great and it looks like having the mill and lathe is the only way to achieve these outstanding results. I'd also like to see detail shots of the hinges and magnets you're using. What metal did you used for the brackets on the rear end? Those must have been machined as well. Keep posting, we'll keep watching.

gasser59

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Posted by ClayK on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:12 AM

Thanks again for the comments. I'll try and answer as many questions as I can.

 

The four link brackets on both the rear end and chassis were photo etched by a friend of mine in Italy. I drew the art up and he was nice enough to etch them. 

 

So far I  have probably a week in the chassis, four or five solid days of body mods, and probably a weeks worth of nights on the machining so far.  As Wayne mentioned, I started this one back in the early Summer, got away from it for a while and am now getting back into the swing of things.

 

I still need to machine a set of inner wheels for the slicks. That's on my to-do list.

 

 Got a good night in last night. Finished my chassis work,, and got it painted and cleared. I went with Tamiya TS38 Gunmetal decanted it and shot the whole thing in two coats. Then one even coat of PPG clear.

I also made up the small tranny tunnel from K&S aluminum tubing and some Detail master #4  hard line. I need to paint the crimp tubes chassis color, then it can be installed.





 

My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by ClayK on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:12 AM

 A few more with the tranny tunnel and Lenco mocked up.

 







I think next up will be installing the rear suspension and wheelie bars!

CK 

My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by futurattraction on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:23 PM

Hey Clay - I love the tin work you've done on the cowl/firewall section.  I'm curious how you made the small trapezoidal inset in the cowl top.  I know how I would do it, but am curious if you went about it in the same way.  Did you cut the main cowl section to the shape you wanted it, then fitted a slightly larger size panel in from underneath, then filled the offset between the two panels to blend them together?  I'm in awe of your work...  Scott


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Posted by ClayK on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:45 PM
Pretty much. I started with the top piece. I wanted to do it to all of them, but there was no way on the two side ones with the break in them. Anyway, I cut the center piece to size on some .015 sheet plastic. Drew out the shape and cut it out with the hobby knife and knocked out the center. Cleaned up the edges, and then just glued a bit bigger piece of plastic from behind with liquid glue. That was it. CK
My Fotki albums:http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/ Current Project: 70.5 Camaro Pro Mod http://public.fotki.com/ClayK/drag-racing-projects/705-camaro-pro-mod/
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Posted by james2 on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:06 PM
Very cool, Clay. Lots of positive ideas here. As many oval track chassis I have built, these Pro mods intimidate me. Yours looks great and I would like to use your panel idea. Jim

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Posted by DeLaunhardt on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:34 PM

I apologize if you have answered these questions here on the forum somewhere else...

As far as the chasis goes, it is completly scratchbuilt, right?

If so, do you have a jig you use?

I too would like to take on a Full-on Pro Mod/Pro Stock project and have many items and kits stashed to do them, but I have not dove in for lack of knowledge. Such as the aforementioned query on the chasis..

Another reason I have not taken on such a project is a terible lack of wiring diagrams. Its tough to know where all the ignition, computer, fuel, nitrous, ect. lines run with out a diagram. Where can I find this out? Or do you have some stashed somewhere?

Any and all help would get me goin' on some real killer ideas I have...

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Posted by outlaw105 on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:02 PM

clay, just was wondering what size styrene rod you used?

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