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Richard Petty Chargers
Posted by gettcomm on Monday, July 10, 2006 5:57 PM
Hello all,

I have searched the forums and the web and I am in need of some direction. I want to build the 71-77 Plymouths/Dodges that Richard Petty drove. It seems that the body in the Polar LIghts kits is wrong and has many other problems and the Buddy Baker kit has issues as well. Some recommend the 71 Charger from AMT with resin grills but there were complaints of the resin bumpers being too short for the front and rear.

I also have some general MOPAR questions about these cars from a rough standpoint. He drove the following:

1971 Plymouth Road Runner
1972 Plymouth Road Runner/Dodge Charger
1973 Dodge Charger
1974Dodge Charger
1975 Dodge Charger
1976 Dodge Charger
1977 Dodge Charger
1978 Dodge Magnum

Would it be safe to say that the 71/72 Road Runner could be made out of the AMT 71 charger? Could the AMT 71 Charger also be used for all the model years up to 1974? Also, I cant seem to find anything out there representative of the 75-77 Chargers, is there any resin or other or was there ever anything from those model years? Lastly, I think I read on AllMopar that the Magnum was basically the 77 Charger body with a new nose piece, roughly that is. Would that be accurate?

Any help is appreciated, I am more confused now than when I started my research. Thanks!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 10, 2006 7:31 PM
up to 74 you could probably use the 71 charger kit but mpc made a 74 charger called the supercharger and can be found on ebay . as for the 75 to 77 charger and the magnun you could look for thr 2dr monaco or sport fury kits or promos to use as a starting point
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Posted by Hemizach on Monday, July 10, 2006 8:48 PM
The chargers and the roadrunners were quite different.....it would be possible to do but it would take some work to do a conversion.
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Posted by djaustinj on Monday, July 10, 2006 9:35 PM
For the Road Runner use the Revell GTX/Satellite kit mounted on the Polar lights Dodge chassis. The quarter windows on the 73-74 charger are different than the 71-72, the supercharger kit is your best donor for these. The Magnum was based on the Chrysler Cordoba and significantly differs from the Charger body however I have seen them in Resin. Try bsrrep.com or smhracing.com, both are Scale Auto advertisers and carry an assortment of resin race car bodies. While you are at it, drop a Revell Superbird body on a polar lights chassis for Richard's 70 ride. And as always, lets see some pics of the finished products.
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Posted by gettcomm on Monday, July 10, 2006 9:35 PM
Thank you both. Ill go do some more looking. Were there Road Runners made as a reissue?

Thanks again!
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Posted by djaustinj on Monday, July 10, 2006 9:38 PM
The GTX version was available a few years ago. I believe it was yellow on the box. Not sure if it is currently available but keep an eye on e-bay. Shouldn't be too expensive.
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Posted by 1320wayne on Monday, July 10, 2006 10:52 PM
[quote]Originally posted by djaustinj

The Magnum was based on the Chrysler Cordoba and significantly differs from the Charger body however I have seen them in Resin.

Actually, the 75-77 Charger and Cordoba bodies were pretty much the same body. At one time I owned a 75 Charger Daytona, 76 Charger Daytona, 77 Cordoba and two different 78 Magnums.
The only one of these in resin is in fact the 78 Magnum from either MCW Finishes or SMH hobbies.
If you are looking for some good reference material on the 71 / 72 Roadrunner check out my Fotki album under the research albums for good, detailed pics of this car.
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Posted by gettcomm on Monday, July 10, 2006 11:35 PM
Alright!! I think I am on track now.

I normally build the big rigs, so I am a bit of fish out of water over here. Thanks for all your help, I think I can at least start finding the donors and resins!!

Ill try to post some pics once I get started. Thanks again!
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Posted by glenncon on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:29 AM
I'm making the 74 charger (my favorite) out of the AMT 71 kit. I cut the side widow backs out of a Polar lights body and grafted it to the AMT. I then painstakingly cut and trimmed the Polar lights grill insert into the AMT grill. Im going to build up the AMT chassis like the real car was built (sort of). The big challenge at this point is finding a good small block mopar that doesn't look like the polar lights blob of plastic. gotta fill the fender vents as well. Its a MAJOR undertaking, but I love that cat, that much. The polar lights kit was a major disappointment.

Polar Lights kit;




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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:04 AM
glenncon:

Are the decals from the Polar Lights Petty car accurate and useable. I have a 74 MPC kit from my childhood days that I would some day like to finish. I have most of the chassis done. Thanks!
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Posted by glenncon on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rw2win

glenncon:

Are the decals from the Polar Lights Petty car accurate and useable. I have a 74 MPC kit from my childhood days that I would some day like to finish. I have most of the chassis done. Thanks!


yes, but you may need to brush on a coat of Micro-Decal film first. They're fragile and tear easily. Petty blue can be made from Liquitex Brillient Blue mixed with +/- 20% Liquitex white. Liquitex is Acrylic so it wont react with Testors Racing red.

the MPC chassis is very inaccurate, just so you know. entire chassis is petty blue. Drivetrain is Chrysler engine blue. Glad to help with questions if I can....

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:38 PM
there is a good pic of one give some time to find it
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Posted by Force on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:45 PM
I'm no Petty expert but I think he even drove (what looks to me) a 71 Charger.
Here are a couple of pics of the car, the pics are from his museum, I found them on internet somewhere.





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Posted by gettcomm on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:15 PM
Hey thanks Glenn, I may hit you up on a few technical details as I progress. Thats a great looking car!
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Posted by glenncon on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:58 AM
Force is right. It's a 71 body style that Petty used on the super speedways in 72 along with the Satellite. he just reskinned one of the Satellites in a charger body. this charger ran the 426 hemi, but by '74, the 426 was gone. it has the same paint scheme as the later '72 satellite. More blue was creeping back onto the car as he cemented his relationship with STP owner Andy Granetelli that year.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:28 AM
If IIRC in those days Nascar allowed teams to use older body styles for 3 years after the actual car went out of production and I believe Petty and most of the Mopar teams used the 1971-74 Charger bodystyle until the end of the 1977 season. GM teams raced the 1973-77 Monte Carlo until the end of the 1980 season. Anyway, if that was the case then the '75-77 Charger body was likely not used and the Mopar guys went straight to the Dodge Magnum starting with the 1978 season. I've also never seen a photo of a Nascar spec 1975-77 Cordoba/Charger.

Does anyone else have additional insight about this?

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Posted by Drag Monster on Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:57 AM
If you want a great source of reference material on all of the cars Petty drove including a section on the models offered over the years pick up the book "The Cars of The King" by Tim Bongard & Bill Coulter INSB # 1-5716-174-9 . Here are a few photos of some of the petty cars I have built over the years also a photo of the above mentioned book.







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Posted by racer1 on Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:43 PM
Try www.southernmotorsportshobby.com. They might have the 78 Dodge Magnum you're looking for.
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Posted by trucker_3969 on Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:55 PM
I just checked my copy of Cars Of The King.In 1972 Richard Petty used both Roadrunners,and Chargers.In 73 they went to all Chargers,which were used untill the end of the 77 season.The 72 RRs and Chargers were painted the same.The 73 thru 77's shared the same paint scheme.There were some differences in decals however.The most notable was in 76,when the STP decal on the hood became much larger than the 73,74,and 75 versions.In 78 Petty Enterprises was forced by NASCAR to update the body style,hence the Magnum.They did all they could with this car,then in mid July,after the Firecracker 400 in Daytona,They switched to Chevys.The Magnum became Kyle Petty's training car.
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Posted by trucker_3969 on Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:47 AM
Modelroundup.com still has a 1971 GTX, [ same body as Road Runner ] listed on their site. It's the 1/24 scale kit from Revell,green on box.The hood would probably be the hardest part to make more accurate for the racing version.For the chassis you could use any of the older Monogram NASCAR kits,like from the mid-80's thru the mid-90's.
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Posted by steveracer on Sunday, December 31, 2017 7:22 AM
Reviving this old thread...I am restoring my MPC 73-74 Dodge Charger NASCAR. I am looking for some 1/25 scale STP Petty decals in this scale, and can't seem to locate any for this scale. I wrestle with the bumpers being body color on my resto, but I want to create a cool looking Petty car if I can find the decals. Otherwise I may just paint it one color and let the body do the talking as it has such great coke bottle shape....thanks!
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Posted by Tom Louis on Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:41 AM

I would love to see all the pictures photobucket deleted!

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Posted by texwardfan on Sunday, December 31, 2017 3:01 PM

They didnt actually delete them. They are just holding them hostage for 400 dollars if you choose to pay that much to free them

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Posted by Tom Louis on Sunday, December 31, 2017 3:04 PM

I still have an open Photo Bucket premium account I paid extra for, ($30bucks). But I am assuming it will go away. I also have a Fotki account that cists about the same annually, and it is easy to work with.

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Posted by glenncon on Thursday, January 04, 2018 10:35 PM

go to model roundup. they have a section with a good selection of Resin bodies.

 

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Posted by steveracer on Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:11 AM

But I am looking for Decals.  Can't seem to find any for the most historic and Iconic Nascar car and driver of all time.....bueller, anybody?

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