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Tamiya 1/12 Ferrari 312T
Posted by PatrickN on Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:23 PM

This is my second Ferrari 312 project. After the B, I started on the 312T. Hope you like it. 

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, April 30, 2020 5:09 PM

Very nice work. I can imagine that the exhaust system was a real PITA.

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Posted by nottheband on Thursday, April 30, 2020 9:08 PM

You got me with those photos, I'll be following along all the way.  Cheers.

Steve

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Posted by steveracer on Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:28 AM

Awesome, keep up the build and photos here at ScaleAuto.  I love Tamiya F1 big scale projects, this is going to look cool when done.  Are your decals still good to use?

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Posted by PatrickN on Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:48 PM

I'm using decals from Michael at IndyCals after the 40 year old decals on the 312B disintegrated in water.

I am very afraid since there is so cmuch pinstriping on this bad boy!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by PatrickN on Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:52 PM

Progress on the 312T... engine and tub mated, rear suspension in place, oil and water lines in place... down the rear wing and the painting. I am assessing the body situation before proceeding on...

But here are a few photos.

 

Your comments and criticisms are always welcome!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by nottheband on Friday, May 8, 2020 5:10 AM

G'day, Patrick.  That is progressing beautifully, great work on the engine and suspension.  Cheers.

Steve

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Friday, May 8, 2020 11:59 PM

Thank is outstanding work Patrick......

I always liked this car and kit. Your build is representing both of them very well.

Ben

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Posted by PatrickN on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:40 PM

Thanks!

Starting to look like a Ferrari 312T!

 

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by Skelly on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:54 PM

Howdy from Canada!! I built 3 of these and enjoyed every moment! She will certainly be something to brag about when you're done. Keep us updated, eh?

Skelly

SKELLY

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Posted by PatrickN on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:14 PM

Skelly

Howdy from Canada!! I built 3 of these and enjoyed every moment! She will certainly be something to brag about when you're done. Keep us updated, eh?

Skelly

 

Do you mean you did three of the T or did you do the series? I have the 312B and the 312T4 already completed. This will make my fifth Ferrari. I have also done the 126C2 and the 641/2.

Thanks for the words.

I went out and looked at the side pods and am not happy with the paint. I have also run out of time off and have to go back to work Sunday. Of course, I thought about blowing it off and just mushing through and leaving the paint but I really have put some time and effort in, so I think I'm going to hold off and the sidepods and concentrate on the main cowling and getting all the other stuff done. It's not going to get done this week, so why not wait and do it right! Right?

That's what I thought! LOL! I always do this so I am not going to fall prey to my own weaknesses!

Patience... patience... patience. I am trying to rise above mediocrity!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by Skelly on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:18 AM

Hey, Pat! I built two Tamiya 312Ts and one Protar. Built a 312B as well as a dozen or so other 1/12 scale F-1s. Gave them all away.....

SKELLY

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Posted by PatrickN on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:42 PM

I was not happy with the main body work so I sanded it from 1500 grit to 12000, wet sanded the 1500 and 2000.

Using warmed rattle cans, I shot 2 mist coats 20 minutes apart and then 20 minutes later, one nice wet coat.

I still have to buff out the paint but I'm really, really happy. Unless I build a clean room, I don't know if I can get it much more dust free!

So that's it for me until next Thursday (not tomorrow) when my week off starts again. I will do the sidepods and nose then. Will try to work on the wings and rear wing mount as well. That is the punch list before moving on!

Your comments and criticisms are ALWAYS welcome!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, May 14, 2020 9:38 AM

Very nice paint job. I agree with you, warmed rattle cans provide a superior finish.

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Posted by steveracer on Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:47 AM

Skelly, which - the Tamiya or Protar....

  1. look more accurate
  2. Assemble easier
  3. Require less correction and clean up of the molded parts

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Posted by steveracer on Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:49 AM

Patrick, I thought this was a Tamiya kit.  Yet is sits on a Protar box....are you lobbying for some special preferential treatment from the FISA and JMB?

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Posted by PatrickN on Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:57 PM

steveracer

Patrick, I thought this was a Tamiya kit.  Yet is sits on a Protar box....are you lobbying for some special preferential treatment from the FISA and JMB?

 

Look closely and you will see the Protar kit is my next project... a Ferrari 312T2 whilst the kit sitting on it is a Ferrari 312T! What is JMB?

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by Bainford on Thursday, May 14, 2020 5:49 PM

Beautiful work. Progressing very nicely. Very clean. Those pipes are drool worthy. 

"It would be unusual, if the unusual didn't occur."

- Steamboat Gariepy

Trevor

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Posted by steveracer on Friday, May 15, 2020 8:49 AM

Patrick, I must be a dipstick that I didn't notice the two different evolutions of the Ferrari F1 kits!  

JMB = Jean Marie Balastre.  The FIA iron fisted goofball of the old days that Bernie would fight with for the teams!  

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Posted by PatrickN on Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:27 PM

Painted, polished, and ready for decals...

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by vintagegarage on Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:01 PM

I love the vintage F1 and indy cars so much style. Amazing job!

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Posted by PatrickN on Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:06 PM

3.5 hours of decaling doesn't get you far these days... especially since there is no single "point of reference". Every decal placed is dependent on another decal... 

Your comments are ALWAYS welcome!

 

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by PatrickN on Monday, May 25, 2020 9:45 PM

Just one photo today! 

Your comments are always welcome!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:38 AM

How did you polish the paint. It looks amazing.

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Posted by PatrickN on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:52 PM

Johnny,

First, I ALWAYS use primer. That lets me see any imperfections. That gets sanded with 400 and 600 grit and reprimed if necessary!

Then, using warmed rattle cans, I do two mist coats with 20 minutes between with a final wet coat. I let that stand for 24 hours. I then look for the imperfections and start again with 400. I go all the way to 12000 sanding pads. Then if necessary, I do the two mist coats and one final wet coat. Let stand 24 more hours.

Then, I start again at 1600 grit and go to 12000. Last step is to use Novus three part plastic polish. It is counterintutive to start with 3 (heavy scratch polish), then 2 (fine scratch) and then 1 (fine polish). The fine polish looks like milky water. 

Here's a real trick. Remember that whatever grit you start with, is doing ALL the work. That should be where whatever gets removed. Every grit after that is just polishing!

Mind you, I use nothing but rattle cans... I have airbrushes but I don't use them! It's just easier!

Good luck and thanks for the kind words!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by PatrickN on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 6:38 PM

Kids... let this be a lesson to follow directions and not try to outthink the designers!

When I was dry fitting the side pod tops and the main cowling, I didn't like all the gaps even though they were there on the 1:1 cars. So I glued the two side pieces to the main cowl. I didn't know that eventually those side pieces are under some major piping.

And so the main cowling didn't fit!

Well, there is nothing done that can't be undone... or destroyed.

I was working very carefully with ungluing the parts and carefully broke them both...

Let us never forget mediocrity is lurking at every corner. But there is a positive... It's only paint, decals, and time. I can redo the top stripes where I want them (correctly), I can straighten up the offending AGIP logo... and I can have a cowling for a diorama set piece!

I feel very mediocre at this moment.

Pride comes before the fall! LOL!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by PatrickN on Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:14 PM

I just received some Testor's Aluminum Plate Buffing Metallizer in rattle cans.

Can anyone please talk me through the steps from the beginning starting with removing the kit chrome from a part?

Please include ALL the steps including buffing and sealing. I don't think I have any Testor's clear, just Tamiya. If that won't work, please let me know. Do I need to warm the cans?

Thanks in advance. I am going to be considering using this on the wings for my Ferrari 312T.

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:03 PM

PatrickN

I just received some Testor's Aluminum Plate Buffing Metallizer in rattle cans.

Can anyone please talk me through the steps from the beginning starting with removing the kit chrome from a part?

Please include ALL the steps including buffing and sealing. I don't think I have any Testor's clear, just Tamiya. If that won't work, please let me know. Do I need to warm the cans?

Thanks in advance. I am going to be considering using this on the wings for my Ferrari 312T.

 

I use Testors' Metalizer rattle cans all the time. This what I do.

1. I remove the chrome by soaking the parts in Purple Power. I takes a while but it does work. I don't use oven cleaner or brake fluid.

2. After the chrome is removed, I clean the parts in Dawn dishwashing detergent.

3. I remove any parting lines, flash and ejector holes. Then I sand using a very fine grit sandpaper. Then I rewash the parts.

4. I do not prime the parts.

5. I warm the rattle cans in warm water and shake, shake, shake the cans for one minute. I spray the parts using multiple of thin coats of paints. Do not use thick coats.

6. After a day of curing, I burnish the parts using a cotton ball and a cotton swab. The paint will not rub off if it is burnished properly.

7. I do not seal the burnished metalizer paint with a clear coat of any kind. . IMHO, that ruins the burnished finish. 

HOWEVER, sometimes I use Testors' metalizer paint without burnishing it. I think that the unburnished paint makes for a great looking cast aluminum finish. I paint the part with the Aluminum Plate Metalizer paint and let it dry. Then I paint the part with Testors' flat Clear. See below.

The transmission case was painted with Testors' Matt Aluminum. It was not burnished. It was  coated with Testors' flat clear.

 

   

The valve covers are painted with Testors' Titanium Metalize. The paint was not burnished and was coated with Testors flat clear.

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  • From: Tehachapi, CA
Posted by PatrickN on Thursday, May 28, 2020 10:51 AM

A couple of more from the Tamiya 1/12th Ferrari 312T...

The nose knows... and the white spoon test for replacing "chrome wings". I have eliminated Bright Gun metal as too dark, and the Gloss Aluminum as too not gloss.

That leaves AS-12 Bare Metal Silver from Tamiya and Testor's Aluminum Plate Buffing Metalizer. Both have a gloss coat of Tamiya TS-13.

Your comments are always appreciated.

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."- Groucho Marx

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, May 28, 2020 4:18 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb, how about Bare Metal Foil?

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