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Tim Richmond 1980 Indy car (W.I.P.)...Engine/Wheel update..11-26-18

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Tim Richmond 1980 Indy car (W.I.P.)...Engine/Wheel update..11-26-18
Posted by Gary Davis on Saturday, September 08, 2018 3:28 PM

I started watching Tim drive his #25 Folgers Monte Carlo( in the 80's) like a man possessed. That's when he caught my attention. I hadn't realized that he(like quite a few other drivers) had started their careers in the short track Dirt arenas. In fact.....I'd found out about his Super Modfied racing a few yrs back when I saw his car at the WORLD of SPEED Museum in Wilsonville, Ore. I took a whole slew of pics of that car and will build it in the future.


In order to get the PC-7 for this build..an AMT PC-6 was used for the Donner. The side pods had to be cut off and and rebuilt to represent the side pods of the first down force car to run at Indy. Trying to get measurements for the correct dimensions on the side pods was next to nothing that I could find. Going by the few pics that I have I went forward. The engine cowl had to be re-worked as it also was different. In the front shot of the 1/1 car I saw that they rounded off all leading edges leading into the side pod tunnel. I"ve got that like I want it and now...I have to build the curved ramp that deflects the air flow out through the top of the side pod.

Here are a few pics of the progress to this point. A lot more work is to be done on the body and the side panel for the side pods. A head rest has to be fabbed also. Thanks for stopping in and looking folks....





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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, September 09, 2018 6:33 AM

Looks good, Gary! Also looks like a lot of work!

I almost forgot that Tim Richmond had run the Indy 500. Two years, 1980 and 1981. He finished both races (9th in 1980 and 14th in 1981). 1981 was was a particularly memorable race, Mears had a pit fire, Danny Ongais had a terrible wreck in the third turn (where I was sitting that year) and the final result that Mario Andretti had won the race was appealed by Bobby Unser and the race was awarded to Bobby Unser in October, 1981.  

I'll be watching your build as it looks like a lot of fun! Cool Thumbs Up

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Posted by Gary Davis on Sunday, September 09, 2018 1:27 PM

Hey Jr....Thanks for stoping in and commenting bubba!!

Yea.....I think he did pretty good his rookie yr. Qualified 19th and finished 9th. But I think he did better the second yr as here started 33rd (dead last) and finished 14th...but he was like 9 laps down. That was in a 1980 Parnelli chassis. Maybe if he stuck with the Penske chassis he...might've done better. Never know now...eh? Then he was off to NASCAR.....To torment Earnhardt...LOL

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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, September 10, 2018 1:48 PM

Here's an update also...the first set of side panels They're a little to high...need to be trimmed down and the slope needs to be re-slopped also. The front wing end plates have been rebuilt and added.....

Old front wing plates..


New....


Side panel first mock up (using card stock)....


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Posted by Gary Davis on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:28 PM

Here's a small but important update. ALL the side and top body panels have been made and are in mock up. The top panel still needs the curved portion on the tire side made. This is really starting to look like an Indycar. Looks kinda funny(naked if you will) with out the rear wing. Here's a few pics... Thanks for looking and commenting folks....

side panels ...


Top and Side panels....


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Posted by justmike on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:40 PM

This is fascinating. I won't ever see one of those in my collection I'm sure.  lol  

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Posted by Gary Davis on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:18 PM

Hey Mike....well...ya could if ya build one. :-) Thanks for stoping in and comment Mike...it's really appreciated...

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Posted by sflam123 on Sunday, September 16, 2018 5:38 PM

Very interesting. I'm going to be watching the progress on this one. Great job thus far!!

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:07 PM

Looking good, Gary! Can't wait to see what's next! Cool Thumbs Up

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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, September 17, 2018 2:02 PM

Thanks for the comments Folks. Right now I'm working on the head rest. I have to carve it out of Styrene Strip. I've got it drawn out but have to get it cut. I'll post update pics soon...

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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, October 08, 2018 7:10 PM


Here's an update.... Both side panels are finished. The fuel buckeye slot on the left panel was fabbed. Both radiator slots were also cut in. The radiators( from the pc6 kit) were also reconfigured and added. The front part of the body panel was pinned so it wold go back in place exactly the same place every time. The top part of the engine cowl was also Fabbed and the whole for the POP OFF valve was cut in( it's off a hair and needs to be fixed...soon..) plus the base for the pop off valve was made for the intake plenium. The head rest and rollbar panel were fabbed and need to be touched up a little.. It's coming together a little at time. Primer is on the horizon!! Thanks for stopping in and commenting folks...

New engine cowl and fuel buckeye slot...


Radiators and Intake plenum..headrest ...rollbar ...
 


with the side panels on...



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Posted by texwardfan on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 6:29 AM

Gary, Its coming together awesomely. This will really be cool when its done.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:23 PM

Hey Mark...thanks for the look in and compliment bud! It's getting there... as you know...the little things that need to be done first on a build is what slows things down. but...that's what makes the build a build. I added putty last night and will sand today. Maybe...it will get some primer on it soon....

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 7:56 PM

That behind the side pod shot really shows off what you have done

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Posted by Gary Davis on Friday, October 12, 2018 3:57 PM

Thanks for stopping in and commenting Mike. I have gotten more built on this bad boy. The Pop off valve is fabbed and waiting to dry so it can be sanded to final shape. I'll have pics a little later.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:43 PM

Started on the engine area and had to come up with a way to attach the headers from the block to the turbo. I cut off the turbo housing and pinned it so it was removable. I then pinned the connecting tube(??) ends that attach to the ends of the headers. This way the whole thing will come apart (for paint) and make it a whole lot easier to assemble once everything is painted. The POP Valve was also fabbed and is in. Here are a few Progress pics...









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Posted by justmike on Monday, October 15, 2018 11:50 AM

Thats some nice cutting and fitting you've done.

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Posted by texwardfan on Thursday, October 18, 2018 7:47 AM

Gary, That engine is coming together really nicely. I'm not that good on indy cars. Is that a cosworth ford v8 or something else?

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Posted by Gary Davis on Sunday, October 21, 2018 6:51 PM

Thanks Mike...got a little more done today... I removed the molded on coilovers and fabbed some up. I'll post update pics soon...

 

Mark...spot on my friend...it IS a Ford Cosworth v-8...

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Posted by texwardfan on Monday, October 22, 2018 8:03 AM
Thanks, You're getting my inspirational juices flowing to do an indy car. I did Parnelli Jones winner from I think it was 1963 back when I was a kid. I remember it was a fun build.
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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, October 22, 2018 3:07 PM

Hey Mark...it would be really cool to see you build an Indy car...Or maybe????... a Supermodified of the 70's era! LOL..It really don't matter...your skill level and Artistic eye are up there on the TOP SHELF and what ever you build is GREAT. Thanks for looking in my friend...

This update is on the coil over shocks on the rear suspension. I almost went with the molded on coils and shocks... but after removing the mold seams and pin marks I decided that they were going to be a pain in the paint brush to paint the springs and the shocks. Sooo..I decided to make the coil overs out of tube and rod from evergreen. The coil is .030 soft leader wire that I picked up at Cabella's. I made them so that they will come apart for easier painting....

Kit shocks...


Removed them here...


Coil springs....


New shocks and springs together...


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Posted by texwardfan on Monday, October 22, 2018 4:48 PM
Oh yeah. Those redone springs look 100% better then the kit springs. Awesomely Awesome.
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Posted by Gary Davis on Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:32 PM

LOL...Thanks Mark...Trying to get more things done but it's a little diffucult with the World series happening....

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Posted by openwheel on Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:36 PM

Looks great, Gary!! I would love to do a Pancho Carter PC-7 someday.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Thursday, October 25, 2018 6:53 PM

Hey ART.. Thanks for the compliment ...I do hear ya on the Poncho Carter car. Love the paint scheme on his car. This will be the one and ONLY PC7 that I will build..but it would be cool to see you take this car on.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, November 26, 2018 3:49 PM

Here a progress post. The engine is painted using ALL ALCLAD metal paints and in MOCKUP to see how things will fit together after paint. I'm happy with the snug fits. I still have clean-up and also touch-up painting to do but it's getting there. I wanted to shoot the white on the body today but it needs a few spots touched up on the body work. Here's a few engine shots...







Here are a few shots of the wheels that I shot with ALSA MIRROR CHROME. I like this paint and it's fairly easy to work with.

It dries fast and is pretty durable. It is a little on the spendy side but to me...it was worth it.


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Posted by texwardfan on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:37 PM

Gary, The engine, wheels and tires look awesome. all of your work is at a very high standard and I always look forward to new wip posts. You can already tell that the final product is going to be off the charts.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:49 PM

Hey Mark...thanks for the compliment bud!!

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