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DECALS
Posted by dannylaval on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 11:26 AM

Hi guys

I am working on a Tamiya SARD Supra and am at the decals stage; these are really thin and break up easily upon transfer on the model. Any suggestions as to how they can be put on without too much hassle ?

Also, I heard there was a putty that do not shrink over time; any idea which it is ?

Thanks and a nice build to you

 

 

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  • From: Nova Scotia
Posted by Bainford on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 11:47 AM

MicroScale makes a clear coat called Liquid Decal Film. A couple thin coats sprayed over the decal sheet should help to keep the decals together. Some builders spray other clear coats over decals that could potentially break up. I haven't tried either personally, but some swear by it. Hopefully someone will respond who has actually tried this.

Pretty much all solvent based putties will shrink, as curing requires the solvent to evaporate out. The solvent has volume, and when it's gone the remaining filler occupy less space = shrinkage. Try a  catalyzed putty or filler (requires a hardener to be mixed with it to activate it). Some guys use Icing, as is used in 1:1 body shops (possibly an Evercoat product), but there may be hobby based products as well. Again, hopefully someone with actual experience will provide some info. I still use good ole glazing putty, but I rarely do heavy body work and apply the stuff very thin so it will not attack the plastic, and to control the degree of shrinkage.

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Posted by dannylaval on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 12:03 PM

Hey Bainford

I posted twice and each time you're the one that replied lol

Thanks for the tip. I will ask at my hobby shop.

How is your stash coming along ? Still over 450 kits ?

Have a nice build...

 

Dany

 

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  • From: UK
Posted by PatrickW on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 4:15 PM

Yes Trevor is right. If I get an older kit and most of them are, I give them at least two coats of clear gloss rattle can spray over the complete sheets, waiting for each coat to completely dry.

Usually for enamel paints as on Acrylic paint cans it says don't spray onto decals!

If I have problems getting them to follow a curve I use MicroSol decal liquid.

But not too much as it dissolves the decal which is worse still!

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  • From: southeast Texas
Posted by texwardfan on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 6:51 AM

dannylaval

Hi guys

I am working on a Tamiya SARD Supra and am at the decals stage; these are really thin and break up easily upon transfer on the model. Any suggestions as to how they can be put on without too much hassle ?

Also, I heard there was a putty that do not shrink over time; any idea which it is ?

Thanks and a nice build to you

 

 

 

 

I make my own decals and have to spray clear on them to make them work. I use testors 1261 gloss clear. I have to use 4 very light coats or the clear will make the ink run, but if the decal is from a manufacturer i'm thinking the clear will not attack it like it does on my homemade decals and you could probably get away with less coats. If you clear any decal sheet you will have to cut the decal close to its edge because the clear will bridge the gap between the decal and the decal paper on a kit sheet. I use to use squadron putty which shrank a little but it is no longer available locally so I use tamiya which shrinks a lot. The key is to use more styrene sheets to fill stuff and as little putty as possible. You could use the evercoat stuff but it gets pin holes in it from trapped air because its hard to get it mixed fast enough and then on the model before it starts to harden. Plus the evercoat stuff is more toxic to breathe and your wife will definitely not like the smell unless you do your modelling in a room seperate from the rest of the house.

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  • From: Hamptonville, NC
Posted by TarheelRick on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:05 AM

I have used regular spray can clear on decals with very little problem,  Of course the layers of clear make the decal stand proud of the surface they are applied to, which can be resolved if after applying the decals you spray more clear over the whole body then wet sand/polish it down.  As far as avoiding shrinking I have found the fingernail acrylic filler will not shrink, bonds extremely well (joint is even stronger than surrounding styrene), requires some getting used to, is difficult to sand, holds paint well and as yet I have not noticed any shrinkage.  It is EXTREMELY oderous and must be used in a well-ventilated space, it is also not to be put into a dehydrater; for some reason the heat makes it swell and it wil continue swelling, even after several sandings.  Hope this helps.

I build models because I can't afford the real thing!

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Posted by dannylaval on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 1:46 PM

Thanks Patrick. Actually I do use Micro Sol but I know not to get it on these decals... They would more than likely dissolve even before getting them off the paper backing...

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Posted by dannylaval on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 1:48 PM

Hi Texwardfan, I am back from my hobby shop where I found a Testors Decal Spray.

I will try it tonight on a decal not to be used and hope for the best.

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Posted by dannylaval on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 1:52 PM

Hi TarheelRick, thanks for the info about the nail acrylic filler. Gonna ask the girlfriend to buy it for me whenver she goes to pick up some cosmetics...

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