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Loyd Ruby's 1970 Mongoose Indy Car

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Loyd Ruby's 1970 Mongoose Indy Car
Posted by openwheel on Friday, February 10, 2017 12:14 AM

Thanks to my friend, Jimmy “RASS”, I have been able to obtain one of Lance Seller’s Lloyd Ruby 1970 Mongoose kits. I’ve wanted to build one of Lance’s kits for a while now, but my budget just hasn’t synched up well with his releases. But this is one that I really like, so I am really happy to get my hands on one and am looking forward to diving in. Thanks again to my buddy “RASS”!

 

The quality of this kit is first rate, which I can’t say I’m surprised, since all of Lance’s cars always come out nice. As nice as it is, I’m glad that I see some areas where one can add some additional detail and really make this model stand out.

 

Here’s the original car:

 

 

 

Here are the kit pieces and the decal sheet:

 

 

All of the color can be done with the decals. I’m contemplating painting the red, though. We’ll see…

 

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Posted by openwheel on Friday, February 10, 2017 12:15 AM

So far I’ve mostly just done parts cleanup, but I did open up the naca ducts.

 

 

 

 

 

I decided to lower the seat back a little to match the reference photos.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, February 10, 2017 6:56 AM

Looks like fun, Open Wheel! I looked at the Lance Sellers site but couldn't find anything for sale. I was told that he was working on the Tom Sneva 77 McLaren but so far I have been unable to find it. You're off to a good start on this one! CoolThumbs Up

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Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by markdoo on Saturday, February 11, 2017 11:19 AM

I'll be watching this build as it progresses. My favorite era of Indy cars! That paint scheme is ridiculously cool!

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Posted by Bainford on Sunday, February 12, 2017 3:03 PM

Interesting project. I'll be watching this.

Power matters in the straights.
Lightness matters everywhere. - Colin Chapman

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Posted by openwheel on Monday, April 17, 2017 7:50 PM

I've been making a little progress on this, but it’s been mostly cleanup. Looking at the reference pictures, it looks like the car (or at least the restored car) had a different looking transmission rear cover. The closest thing I found was the piece out of the AMT Lotus kit. Since I didn’t want to ruin the whole kit over one piece, I cast a copy of it in resin.

 

 

 

I also polished up most of the white metal. This shot shows the polished part next to the unpolished parts.

 

 

Added ribs to the vents, per the reference shots. They might be a little oversized, but it’ll work.

 

 

 

 

 

Starting to close up the bottom of the nose, so I had to paint the radiator, then mask it off before I glued it in. I added some pull tabs to the masking tape so I can get it off later.

 

 

 

 

 

I found this picture of the interior on Facebook, which has a lot of detail, some which differs slightly from the kit. I think adding it will definitely add some interest to the model.

 

 

From another pic, I could see that the upholstery had horizontal stitches as well as vertical, so I added some.

 

 

 

 

This was hard to do because it looked pretty cool, but I removed the side upholstery to go with a more accurate modification.

 

 

More to come. Thanks for looking!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by openwheel on Monday, April 17, 2017 7:51 PM

Got a little done on the interior. I made a new dash that will allow it to come back a little in the cockpit and meet up with the frame.

 

 

I added some frame tubes as per the references.

 

 

Some aluminum panels were made that will later be “anodized” blue.

 

 

I tried to make some side upholstery panels, but they were an abomination, so I gave up on that. I have an idea that I think will work better. I did make a seat roll at the bottom, though, and that worked well. I also realized that, although it was accurate to the reference photo, the inside vertical tubes in the cockpit had to go. It created an impractically small opening.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by openwheel on Monday, April 17, 2017 7:53 PM

I drilled the hole for the intake tube. I accidentally drilled it out too large (had too big a drill), so I filled it back in with styrene tube, then drilled that out to the correct size. It actually turned out nice that way.

 

 

 

It’s hard to see on the reference shots of the car at Indy in ’70, but reference shots on the restored car show a fuel filler cap very similar to a sprint car tail tank. I think adding them will add some interest. I had previously made some castings of the filler cap from the Monogram sprint cars and they look to be a perfect match.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by openwheel on Monday, April 17, 2017 7:53 PM

I finally got some paint on this beuty. I elected to forgo the red stripe decals and paint it instead. After some talks with Jimmy "RASS", I picked up some One-Shot sign painters enamel. I used the Donn Yost mehtod I usually use with my Testors enamels and mixed it 2:1 with lacquer thinner. I have to say, the stuff worked great. I laid it in real thin so as to not bleed under the tape, but I'm real interested to see how it would do on a full body. It seems like it would really produce a nice finish without a clear coat. My base coat is a little grainy, so that's how it looks in the pictures, but once I get clear on it, it's going to really pop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a shot of the blue anodized parts for the car.

 

 

Thanks for looking!

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Posted by openwheel on Monday, April 17, 2017 7:54 PM

Here are some shots of it after clear and some polishing.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by openwheel on Monday, April 17, 2017 7:55 PM

I got some more done on the interior. The belt kit I got from Scott at futurattraction.com. It has some really small parts, but makes a real nice latch!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking!

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Posted by openwheel on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 1:46 AM

Made a wheel that matches the reference shot a little better than the kit wheel. I started with a wheel from another 70's AMT kit.

 

 

I tried to make a wheel center cut on a Cricut scrapbook machine, but that didn't work out. So I decided to use some printing plate aluminum my buddy Brad gave me just last weekend. Inspired by how my friend Randy D. uses his files to make parts to perfection, I thought I would give it a try on this. Not perfection, but as good as I could have hoped for.

 

 

Polished it up and added some photoetch "bolts".

 

 

I also made a shifter mechanism.

 

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Posted by Bainford on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:36 AM

Fantastic work. Things are coming along great. The paint went down well and looks great. The blue anodising looks very good, too. What did you use to do this? I'm also curious to know what you used for seat upholstry piping. Is it just small size Evergreen plastic stock? Your scratchbuilt details look nice as well, the stering wheel being particularly effective. Looking forward to seeing more.

Power matters in the straights.
Lightness matters everywhere. - Colin Chapman

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:36 PM

Everything Bainford said and asked and  then some. That masking job and the light coats sure did the trick. The red and white look perfect. Its been a neat WIP to watch so far.

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Posted by openwheel on Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:14 PM

Bainford

Fantastic work. Things are coming along great. The paint went down well and looks great. The blue anodising looks very good, too. What did you use to do this? I'm also curious to know what you used for seat upholstry piping. Is it just small size Evergreen plastic stock? Your scratchbuilt details look nice as well, the stering wheel being particularly effective. Looking forward to seeing more.

 

 

Thanks for your kind comments. The anodizing is Tamiya clear acrylic blue thinned about 1:1 with a Gunze type thinner. I sparayed it very lightly over the polished metal and over Testors Aluminum Plate metalizer on the plastic parts.

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Posted by openwheel on Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:15 PM

justmike

Everything Bainford said and asked and  then some. That masking job and the light coats sure did the trick. The red and white look perfect. Its been a neat WIP to watch so far.

 

 

Thank you!

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Posted by sflam123 on Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:16 AM
Wow!! Nice job!! You are doing a nice work oaths! LOVE IT!!
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Posted by openwheel on Sunday, April 23, 2017 3:00 AM

Thank you!

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Posted by texwardfan on Friday, May 05, 2017 9:38 AM
Great job taking a good kit and making it better. The detailing is awesome, especially the cockpit. Looking forward to more of this build.
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Posted by openwheel on Friday, May 05, 2017 5:51 PM

Thank you!

I was trying hard to finish this build in time for the GSL last weekend, so I haven't made any posts. I did manage to finish it last Friday in my hotel room. Well, almost finished. There are a few things left I'd still like to do. I want to see if I can get a more accurate wheel set up, and I also need to male the fuel buckeyes on the left side of the tub. Here are some shots I manage to take during the push.

 

When I got the kit, it didn;t have any brake discs in it, so I turned a set on my lathe. (It's about all I can do with it :) )

 

To complete the setup, I made a mold off of the spindle to cast additional brake calipers.

 

 

 

I cut the turbo off and added a Detail Master flange, and also so I can paint it separately.

 

 

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Posted by openwheel on Friday, May 05, 2017 5:51 PM

Here's the intake and exhaust all painted up.

 

 

 

I reconfigured the rear trans cover and machined a starter coupler.

 

 

 

 

 

I made a rear bumper from brass. This was before I added the bottom hoop. I painted it with Alclad chrome.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by openwheel on Friday, May 05, 2017 5:52 PM

Added a rear pan made from aluminum printing plate and styrene strip. I found that Testors Ford Engine Light Blue is an almost exact match for the decal blue.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course I have Pro Tech braided line throughout, but I added some to the interior per the reference pictures.

 

 

Here are some "finished" shots I took in a booth called a Shotbox that were available for use at the GSL. I didn't get the lighting right, so I messed with the pics a little. Still not great.

 

A couple of notes I didn't show. The tires were replaced with Indycals tires for accuracy. I also used aluminum rod instead of the white metal roll bar so I could polish it up. I used Pro Tech nut and bolt heads for the windshield. I also added what I think is a trans cooler and a tank on the right side, and the turbo inlet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bainford on Friday, May 05, 2017 9:01 PM

Absolutely stunning. Very impressive skills Mr. openwheel. And beautiful race car, too.

Power matters in the straights.
Lightness matters everywhere. - Colin Chapman

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Posted by openwheel on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:03 AM
Thank you, Trevor!

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:14 PM

Wow that's cool I have several open wheels never built one recently robbed the tire and riding mower for other builds Indy turbine I think it was or olsenite eagle anyhow that's cool think I've got a few to trade older issues b4 I use them for other stuff love all cars but like doing semis customs and rods think that's my thinning call bye bye. To my mascara etc etc great work though

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Posted by texwardfan on Friday, May 19, 2017 8:31 AM
Excellent overall build. engine detail, paint, decaling and basically just getting it right. A first class endeavor all the way.
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Posted by Gary Davis on Friday, May 19, 2017 11:14 AM
Another GREAT job ART! Your craftsmanship on this build really stands out my friend!!
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Posted by jkitman on Monday, August 28, 2017 6:55 PM

I knew Lloyd Ruby and he was an exceptional race driver and human being. He once went drag racing with Hambone Herrel in my dads 1950 oldsmobile. I live in his hometown of Wichita Falls . I would like to find a mongoose kit too. You did a super job on yours. Thanks for sharing the build up

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Posted by openwheel on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:43 PM

Thanks for all the comments!

jkitman, how special that you actually knew Ruby. I was in his company a few times when I went to Indy in the early nineties, but never got to actually meet him. He also happened to win a race in the Indy car that was manufactured by my grandfater's company, which is pretty cool.

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Posted by jkitman on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:04 PM

Thats too cool. You have my interest up now. Please tell me more. Thats cool that you grandfather built race cars. I am a car nut. I always go to the dirt track races in the area. Lloyd was probably the best midget car racer to ever live. 

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