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Aoshima WTCC Cruze Finished

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Aoshima WTCC Cruze Finished
Posted by justmike on Sunday, January 01, 2017 6:27 PM

I want to make a few comments about the level of detail in this kit. Simply amazing! The quality of the parts, the delicacy of some of them and the sharpness of the castings is incredible. I have only ever had a couple of new release kits and this one can't be beat in my mind. I own a Chevy Cruze so I had to do this one and I am glad I have spent the money on it. As you can see by the pic I won't be doing the kit version, the decals of which I have heard are the one drawback in this kit. I ordered the photoetch kit to go with this and I have already decided that there are some parts that just don't need to be replaced with the P.E. parts, for eg. The wipers and brake discs.

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Posted by justmike on Sunday, January 01, 2017 6:33 PM

This happened when I was prepping the body parts. I used a P.E. razor saw to cut the door handles off so that I could then dremel out the relief in the body of the car. While I was primering the handles I would swear that one of them just jumped off the sprue and went sailing over the rail of my deck onto the roof below. No one was home so I ended up duct taping about 6 or 7 short bamboo rods together, putting a blob of rubber cement on the end of it and trying to stick that wind blown 12 foot length of juryrigged onto that itsy bitsy handle.

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Posted by justmike on Sunday, January 01, 2017 6:41 PM

............and when I thought I had it what does it turn out to be? A piece of paint! Do you know how many white bits of paint are on that roof??!!!  Fortunately, the neighbor came home and I was able to climb out there and get it. I'm lucky I could even see the little sucker!! Today I have managed to primer the chassis parts and here again the kit quality came through. I had no idea what burnt iron looks like and I sure didn't want to go buy any more paint to do the chassis as I have way too many bottles of paint as it is. Then as I looked at the paint guide in the instructions I noticed that they give you the corresponding numbers for Tamiya with the mixing ratio to boot! From that I was able to find the same colors in Testors!!

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, January 02, 2017 12:24 PM

Well, Mike, it looks like your're having fun already with this one! Testor's does make a Burnt Iron in Metalizer and with an airbrush it looks just like burnt iron! But I use it as my semi-flat black for Chevy and Ford inner fenders and other uses.  I apply with a brush without shaking the bottle too much once the iron flakes settle to the bottom. Takes a few uses for the iron to settle in the bottom so the first few applications have a little iron in them. But with an airbrush it looks like a redish gray.

I know you had mentioned that you didn't know what color of red to use but for me I normally would use a bright red like Testors Italian Red lacquer on a race car. I think there's a racing red too.  If you want a darker color I would use the Testors, I think its called Blaze Red or Fire Red lacquer. I tried to find a photo of the real car but couldn't find one so its hard to determine.  

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by justmike on Monday, January 02, 2017 10:52 PM

Hi Modelcarjr. The red I will need for the Cruze is a brick red that I figure is very similar to the color of the packaging that Zenrise uses for its product. What I wouldn't give to have a hobby shop in this town. Despite what I said about not buying more paint; if there was one in town I would have bought a bottle. lol  Tonight I had FUN!  You gotta love Tamiya acrylics. I was able to airbrush 6 different colors in my new hobby room, ( don't tell my wife where it is, please!!) with water wash up and no overspray. What can I say? Desperate times call for desperate measures. And its all cleaned up with no odor before she gets home too!

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:31 PM

The progress is incredibly slow. Working with the decals that came with this kit is not easy. I understand now what the complaint is about them being brittle, thick and in my experience now, impervious to all makes of decal solvent solutions; of which I have four different brands and none are very effective on them. Even after they sort of lay down on the more complex areas they can be taken off very easily with just a light scrape. The aftermarket C.F. decals by  Scalemotorsport are awesome btw. This pic is of one of the crazy little templates I have had to make. The end result better be worth my crossed eyes. As for the color, burnt iron, I have never seen so many different colors called by that name; from dark rusty red through pinkish to plain old grey. I went with the one part copper to five parts steel and ended up with this, which is close to one of the brands colors. Not pink! Maybe coral canyon??  lol 

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:32 PM
Feelings are like scents: The more they are analyzed, the worse they smell.
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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, January 16, 2017 5:32 AM

Don't you just hate that! Just like the hood decal on the Hertz Mustang. Its impossible to get on right! Good luck with the rest of them! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by justmike on Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:20 PM

Yup. Decals that argue are a nightmare. This photo will give you an idea of how difficult these are to work with. The rim logos had the tendency to split right where the blue background meets the gold lettering. Two of the six that I did on this rim broke in half right at that point. If you look carefully at the picture on the instruction booklet you will notice that the builder only did the one rim and even those decals are not in their proper places. He probably had to use the other 18 just to get those six half decently done. For the first time ever I have clear coated the decals I need to use. I hope that works! I plan on getting some more of the rims done soon

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Posted by justmike on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:17 PM

The centre instrument panel decal broke into three pieces on me. I hadn't made an accurate enough template with regard to knobs and switches and that led to issues. I need to be more careful with regard to making any templates for the stock kit decals. I cut out holes in the decal where the kits knobs and the dial is. If I had got the positioning of the holes right it would have been easy. The lighter colored C.F. is from scalemotorsport and its great stuff. The decal on the fire extinguisher took a lot of solvent and time to get it to lay down. As for the three other tire rims; I clearcoated the remaining 18 decals and only four of them broke!, which is better than the first rim which was 3 for 6. I am not even going to try to use the decal supplied for the steering wheel. I painted the knobs and will use the scalemotorsport decal material for that. I also substituted the stock decal for the rear of the seat with Scmosports stuff. Beyond a doubt the worst decals I have ever worked with belong to this kit.

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Posted by justmike on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:08 PM

I matched up the red color with the aftermarket decal instruction sheet's color of the car. It looks to be correct or at the least very close. The blue was mixed to match the actual color of the Kenwood blue color on the decal sheet itself. I did the panel lines before I painted the car and the effect is good. First time I have done the panel lines before painting. So now its back to the interior which will take a while

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Posted by mclovin on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:57 PM

Really good work so far,i remember when this kit came out alot of people had the same issue with the stock decals disintegrating on them and Aoshima was sending them replacements.Not sure if they're still doing that.

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Posted by justmike on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:01 PM

I had to take a pic of this. I did some templates of the rear shelf rather than just cut out one piece so that I could make sure the decal lays flat with no wrinkles. Its easier to get them to conform to smaller areas rather than one big piece of real estate. lol I speak from experience.Hey Mclovin; If I was doing the stock decal kit I would definitely have been in touch with Aoshima. They are not user friendly at all.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 5:41 AM

Looking good, Mike! The paint looks great and good move clearing the decals. It really helps in keeping them together without breaking apart. Keep on keeping on! Cool Thumbs Up

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, February 18, 2017 9:36 PM

So I'm looking at some pictures of this Zenrise Cruze on the net and I start thinking that given the difficulty I am having with these decals it sure will be tough to get them to lay down on those curves of the mirrors. Then I start thinking " Oh oh! Maybe I should have painted them white. Nahh." So I dig out the decal sheet and sure enough, there is only the ECM logo. Those two little black dots in the jar are the mirrors which have been soaking in Easy Off for two days; primer does not like to let go. What an irritating part of a build when I have to strip paint because of not seeing things like that right away. On another note, this is the first time I have had a kit with precut window templates. Man those things are sticky! If you don't get them right the first time its really tough to peel them off and reset them.  

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:47 PM

So after a whole lot of bending without the proper tools I have decided to go with the kits wipers. The folds required for the P.E. kit were too fine for any of my pliers, tweezers or steel edge ruler. I managed to mutilate the P.E. wipers to the point of not being happy at all with how they looked. The P.E. screens for the air intakes on the front bumper worked very well though. Now I have to paint those assemblies.

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Posted by justmike on Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:51 PM

These decals are so thick they just won't lay down on a surface with the slightest curve so in my desperation I decided to try soaking a rag in solution and laying that on top of the decal. This way the solution dries a whole lot slower. The decal is starting to conform to the roofs edges but at the same time I am worried that the rag is dulling the decal surface. I will wait now until its dry and if I have to I will clear coat it. The large side panel decals are going to be a nightmare!

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Posted by justmike on Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:57 PM

I went a bit crazy with this process. I wanted to maintain the mesh look and so I trimmed each letter off the carrier film and placed them on the mesh. Whats amazing is that despite how horrible these decals have been they stuck to the metal no problem. The outcome isn't perfect but at least its got the screen's pattern instead of the solid look the decal letters would have given it.

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 10:13 PM

I knew for sure I had to at least do this with the decal before I even soaked it in water. After messing around with it on the side of the car all I can say is," am I ever glad I did." I had to take scissors to a whole lot of other areas just to get it to conform and I will be spending the next 3 to 4 hours putting decal setting solution on it every half hour. The roof decal didn't take well to a soaked cloth on it. It seems to have taken on the texture of the cloth itself so its now quite dull and rough but at least the big bumps that wouldn't lay down on the curves of the roof are gone, for the most part anyways. I will definitly have to gloss coat the car after these three big decals have been laid on. What a chore this is.

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Posted by Bainford on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 10:47 PM

Wow Mike, those decals have been quite a trial. Kudos to you for hanging in there trying to make it work. Looking good so far.

Earlier you mentioned you tried several varieties of setting solution. I'm curious if one of them was a Tamiya product called Mark Fit. Yesterday I was at the hobby store and picked up a product called Mark Fit Strong, an extra strength version of Tamiya's setting solution. I haven't tried it yet, but reading the bottle it seems it might be the right stuff for extra stubborn decals.

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Lightness matters everywhere. - Colin Chapman

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 11:49 PM

I have the Mark fit. There is no word "strong" on mine, at least not in English. Strong would be what I need, thats for sure. I just did a third brushing of the markfit on the decal and surprisingly the decal is starting to lay down! By far my favorite decal softener has been Walthers Solvaset. I really need to get more of that stuff somehow. I cannot find it here in B.C. or Alberta so far.

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Posted by justmike on Friday, March 03, 2017 2:19 PM

A very good thing about these big decals is that Beemax seems to have made the decal material thinner. Thank goodness because even with how thin they are the decals still are difficult to work with. This first shot is after a whole night in an airtight container after being slathered with decal softener. I am now in the process of brushing on more solution and trying to slice and trim and pop airbubbles out from under.

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Posted by justmike on Friday, March 03, 2017 2:25 PM

this gives an idea of the effect this decal is achieving on the paint job. Its very good and once I can get it snuggled down and clearcoated it should be fine

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Posted by CanesBart on Friday, March 03, 2017 5:32 PM

Built their model of the IJN Yamato battleship.  Amazing detail and quality.  

 

Looking good.

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Posted by justmike on Friday, March 03, 2017 5:57 PM

Hi Canesbart. I have a buddy who has built some of those battleship kits. Ridiculous doesn't begin to describe what he does with them once he gets the afermarket stuff on 'em! I'll stick to cars, thankyou very much!

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Posted by justmike on Monday, March 27, 2017 2:12 PM

And this is where my patience gets tested. The KW decal on the right didn't settle down as well as the one on the left. I got impatient and decided to do the Tamiya blackwash before cutting into the decal and using more softener to get it to snuggle down better. Of course I realized what a disaster I would make of the panel line if I didn't stop and slice and do the softener but at this point I had already tried to do the wash so now I have to wait and let the wash dry before I can soften the decal.  Dumb, dumb, dumb! I want to add that the aftermarket decals I am now using for this car are much more like what I am used to working with. They are taking to the solvent and are not fragile like the stock ones. Whew!! is all I can say to that 'cause there are a whole lot of decals to put on!

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:00 AM

These next two pics are for anyone else who might decide to build this kit. The note on the instructions is pretty self explanatory.

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:04 AM

I had a very difficult time getting the nose past these pins. I had to cut one pin short to get the body on. I thought for sure I was going to end up wrecking something but I didn't. I recommend gluing the body on at the rear pins, then lining up the front.

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM

I needed weight on the front to get the front skid plate/underttray to meet up with the body of the car. Also, make sure that the black trim around the window areas on the car comes out far enough along the edges. I had to redo it because I hadn't come out far enough with the black paint and I could see the red of the car through the windows when I was going to install them.

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:18 AM

......and then this happens. I started hearing a wierd rattle out of the car everytime I picked it up and turned it over to do something. So I look inside as I'm shaking it and what do I see in the cab?, the radiator! Why it dislodged is a mystery, but there it is. Fortunately, there is no way you can tell the piece is now missing so no loss. Thank goodness it didn't break anything inside the cab where it had ended up. Maybe I can use the stupid thing on another build

Feelings are like scents: The more they are analyzed, the worse they smell.

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