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(Shoebox Racer) 49 Ford Wide body Project updated 15/03/17 Engine work done.

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(Shoebox Racer) 49 Ford Wide body Project updated 15/03/17 Engine work done.
Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:35 AM

started with foam.

trimmed the fat

fiberglass

body filler

after some sanding

making the chin spoiler

some primer to find all my faults

interior mock up

front spliter

more to follow.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by CLASSIC770 on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:07 PM
So, it says IMSA 49 Ford....okay!?! Sounds weird...Looks FANTASTIC. Gonna keep an eye on this build. Quite the concept. Good work.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:21 PM

My inspiration

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Posted by Lil Rebel on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:26 PM

I really like the concept, get rid of  the vent window. Hmm, might try a chopped 49-51 merc.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:17 PM

a quick update on the 49. Mock up of the scoops and wing (still need to adjust the fit and angle)

 

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:50 AM
that's pretty extreme, and awesome
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Posted by spencer1984 on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:42 PM
Nice idea and execution!
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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:12 PM

Thanks guys too many hours into this, but it will be worth it in the end.

some tiny updates and I mean tiny. I reengineered some parts to make components that the car was missing... like these....

This was an axle ladder bar of some type from the 49 kit

now it's a support for the front splitter

The front air dams needed a bit more detail so these console things which I have a few of became trim.

and I thought I was going to paint the car tonight.....

 

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:48 PM

finally sourced a rear wing suitable for my build. the supports are A arms from an F1 parts box

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Posted by Gary Davis on Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:01 PM
Man....what an interesting concept....your doing a lot of fabbing on this one....and it's paying off.. Good work....
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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:45 AM

Thanks Gary. What started off a "just going to build a widebody" has basicly turned into "well if I don't do this, it will be a let down"

When I thought this project was coming to an end, I found that it's only just begun. I am adding more detail than I expected especially to the engine bay, which I haven't sourced the parts for yet.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Monday, November 21, 2016 9:59 AM

The base colour is on. I'm going to hold out for a while before I start taping this up and giving it a few more colours.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 8:18 AM

Laid down some tangerine last night. Ended up peeling a little bit of paint and filler off the side. (I used Tamiya putty there, should have used glazing putty instead.) going to add black striping between the 2 colours, the scoops are going to be tangerine, as well as the rear wing.

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Posted by Pro Crastinator on Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:08 AM
What an amazing build. I'm always surprised on how people get from idea to finished project and this adds another layer. Thanks for sharing this.

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Posted by Foxer on Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:40 AM

Amazing! ... foam bodywork sculpture! and it looks GOOD! Big Smile

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Posted by hachirokami on Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:02 PM

Great looking concept, I love it. If you try this again in the future might I suggest using fiberglass jelly instead of resin? It's easier to carve and sand and, if you want to add density it soaks CA glue without problems. May be a good idea to add a bit of baking soda to resin or jelly as it adds structural integrity without extra weight. Geeked

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:57 PM

Thanks guys, and thank you Hachirokami for the advice. If I eveeeeer do this again, I will take your words into consideration. Truth be told, this is something that I have never attempted before, so getting to the point where I am at this very moment, is an astonishing feat that I never would have imagined. I have also had a fellow modeller tell me about Apoxie Sculpt and it's many advantages.   

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:21 PM

Hi all. I'm really getting a lot done to the body, unfortunately I'm getting to the point where if I show too much, I will reveal finished product for the most part, so .... I will show you her fine a$$. Once I get it to at least a Kurbside status I will display the finished product. I am still in search of the perfect engine and offset wheel combo.

 

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Posted by hachirokami on Friday, November 25, 2016 10:45 PM
Looking real good. As far as an engine, perhaps your F1 parts box has a Ford DFV engine? Could go with a high wound turbo four or go for broke with a 460. If you ever go the fiberglass jelly route the best thing about it is that it will absolutely not stick to anything glossy. This includes the glossy ads you get in junk mall and weekly specials. It stinks just as bad as resin does but is much easier to sculpt.
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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Friday, November 25, 2016 11:11 PM

Good call hachirokami. There are 2 kits I have been looking at. 1. the mustang svo with the 2.3l turbo Lima engine, and 2. the Motorsports mustang imsa racer kit. with what looks to be a N/A 4 cyl. and it has the obvious offset wheels that I am looking for.

 I wouldn't mind finding a cosworth style Lima from a sierra cosworth, but that's hard fought.

A V8 is easy, and it's not to say that I haven't thought of toyota or nissan turbo motors either, but I'm sure purist would gasp in horror at the idea. (and believe me, they did, when I suggested it for my 1:1). So yeah a turbo 2.3l is what I'm really looking for, but I'm coming up short at the moment. I'm not an ebay person. I just don't like it, so I'm limited.   

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Posted by hachirokami on Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:48 PM
No worries about your engine choice, think of it as a modern IMSA entry or, you could go the Gatebil route. What is Gatebil, you say? Check out speedhunters.com for more like the 4g63 1960's volvo
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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:13 PM

Some pretty crazy cars, I have a passion for classic cars that are race prepped esp. European fords. I have an MK1 Focus ZX3 that I use for autocross, and I would really like to build it into a replica WRC car. But that is a long road.

While I was rooting around some parts boxes that I have just recieved I came across 2 turbos, so worst case I can build a TT V8. 

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:20 PM

here is my latest update. Body is almost complete, but there is still some detail that I am working out and decals that I am looking for.

 

a couple of reference photos with a completely stock 49 Ford Coupe

 

 

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Posted by justmike on Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:42 PM

I've watched this from the start and am amazed. Who'da thunk it? Foam as a first step!  Very cool subject. I like how the front end on your build still has the same styling cues as the original.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:54 PM

Thanks Justmike. I tried very hard to follow the lines of the orignal body. I was sure about the foam either, it was a well if it works cool, if not back in the box it goes. this was my first time doing this and first time using fiberglass, so this has been one huge learning curve. And I'm sure there are better ways of doing it.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:57 PM

well no turbo 4 so this will have to do. I built a hot Twin Turbo with the kits Cadillac v8. with some parts from here and there, scratch built the piping. there are a few hours into it.

 I'm not over the moon about it, but it turned out ok. I just have to make it fit in the engine bay....

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:38 PM

progress is slow on the shoebox racer. I have had to make some major modification to the engine bay to fit the turbo engine in place. I have also decided to change the setup to fit 2 intercoolers in the front bumper.  

I had to cut out the right inner fender to make room for the right turbo. I cut a piece of plastic to take it's place, it's putty and sand time.

 

 

Just fits.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Friday, December 02, 2016 1:12 PM

Scored some nice Group 5 stratos wheels, I can't wait to strip them and repaint them orange.

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Monday, December 05, 2016 8:37 AM

wheels painted

engine bay painted

 

 

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Posted by All_6s_and_7s on Thursday, March 09, 2017 7:57 AM

I am about complete with my project, overall I am happy with the results, but I wish the paint was a little better. A lot of time has been spent working on this and I am excited to post some pics. 

I have added a light bar on a seperate hood, and I think it turned out pretty nice.

I decided to go with the classic Gulf logo instead of the more commonly associated racing logo. I think it works for the time period of the car.  

Thanks for looking.

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