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New Porsche 917K
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:40 PM
Hey Guys, got the new Fujimi 917 in the other night. Great subject, one of those "how come they don't make one?" kits for me. So far it looks good. A little oversimplified. It does come with an engine though. It also has some extra parts, so that with other decals most versions should be possible. If their gt 40 is any indication, they will probably put out a bunch of versions themselves. I know one of the gulf cars is supposed to be out soon. I can finally build Steve McQueen's car from Le Mans! The Studio 27 pe set is sweet. It also has parts for different versions.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 4:54 PM
Back to the 917. Had to take off in the middle of what I was writing. I'm at work and sometimes duty calls. In this case, ADT is a pain in the butt as usual. They are definitely not the fireman's friend.
I hope I'm not the only one this excited about the 917. Hopefully, it will sell really well. Maybe, then just, maybe (doubtful though) the domestic manufacturers will see that vintage sportracers are a viable kit. It would be great to get something like this from Revell where it would be $12 vs. the 27.50 I paid for mine.
If anybody has anything helpful to share about the 917, it would be apprectiated. Also, if anybody is interested, I can give some updates about the kit as I build it. I also bought a book on the history and design of the 917. I should have it in a week or so. I have some other books and articles with snippets of info on the car. I'm no expert on the 917 by any means, but any help I can give (or get for that matter) would be cool with me. As for different versions, I do have a good article in an old MRRN that has most of the paint and spoiler variations of the Gulf/Wyer racing cars.

Later on,
Greg
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Posted by MojoDoctor on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 5:06 PM
I am waiting for this kit with GREAT anticipation!
The 917 is one of, if not my favorite, race car. I do have the Union 1/24 917 and it's engine is simplified, so I was hoping the Fujimi model would be better. Can you post some photos of the unbuilt parts?
Well, never mind. I'm buying it anyway! But do tell us what you think as you dig in and get going with this build.

Matt Good judgement is the result of experience, Experience is the result of poor judgement. Mark Twain

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:50 PM
Hey MojoDoctor, sorry to disapoint you, but the engine detail is pretty soft. It is all of 4 pieces, including the cover. The exhaust is molded into the bottom, and a lot of engine compartment detail is missing, such as the fuel tanks. The good news is: the coils are their, no distributors though, and the fuel injection shouldn't be too hard to improve. For a lot of the little details, I think the S27 set is a must. In the nose, the space frame is molded to the body. Masking tape seems to be too thick for the seperation, so I think I'm going to use bare metal foil. Of course, I left that at home, and I'm in the middle of a 24hr shift, so it'll have to wait. (can't complain though, I'm in a sense getting paid to build models) Overall, the car looks good. I know it sounds like a lot of criticism, but I think even box stock, it would be a bute. I'm dying to get my hands on some more research, but I bought two, so this one is more of a test mule before I get into more serious detailing. I'll probably go hungry for a couple of weeks so that I can afford any more versions they make lol. Not that I'll starve, firemen eat way too good, so I've got some survival cusion. I'm glad that there is another 917 fan out there. I'll try to get some photos posted as I go along.
Later,
Greg
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Posted by DoubleFourValve on Friday, January 9, 2004 5:12 PM
For extensive information and photos on the net:

www.917archive.com
www.porsche917.com.ar

I´m waiting on mine. they´ve allready been shipped.
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Posted by DoubleFourValve on Friday, January 9, 2004 5:13 PM
For extensive information and photos on the net:

www.917archive.com
www.porsche917.com.ar

I´m waiting on mine. they´ve allready been shipped.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 9, 2004 5:23 PM
Thanks for those great links Double Four Valve!!!

Hey there gregbbear, is that Fujimi 917 a long tail?
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Posted by MojoDoctor on Friday, January 9, 2004 9:43 PM
Thanks for the links DoubleFourValve, they'll come in very handy!

Greg, the Union 917K I have sounds a bit better in detail than the new Fujimi. The front frame work is separate as are the headers. The headers are not correct, but at least I won't have to grind them off of the bodywork. This engine also sounds a bit better detailed, although not by much. Having drilled out all 24 sparkplug holes, I will have to finish the distributors as well. The fuel and oil tanks are separate, as is the brake cooling hoses and the maze of frame tubes around the engine. The shocks consist of four pieces each! Hmmmm, no wonder these get so much on eBay. I bought this in 1986 for $11.98. This Union kit is looking much better every day!

Brian, the K designation means Kurz, which is 'short' in German. I did have a 1/20 Union 917 that included parts to build either the long tail or short tail version, but got rid of it on eBay. 1/20 scale???? Why do they do that?
Maybe Fujimi will offer different versions at a later date. Maybe?!

About 20 years ago, Road & Track magazine had an article about a guy in Atlanta that actually converted a race 917 to street legal status. It would do over 200mph with mufflers. Wholy moly!

Matt Good judgement is the result of experience, Experience is the result of poor judgement. Mark Twain

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 9, 2004 10:13 PM
Thanks for the information MojoDoctor!

Speaking for myself I kind of like the 1:20 or 1:18 kits. I'm currently working on the old MPC 1:20 of the McLaren Can-Am Mk8d. I also have the Accurate Miniatures 1:24 of the McLaren Mk8b waiting in the wings.

I loved the Porsche 917's, simply amazing cars.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Brian


Hey there gregbbear, is that Fujimi 917 a long tail?


The Fujimis are short tail kits. If you want a long tail, may I suggest a resin kit from Fisher Model and Pattern:
http://www.fishermodels.com/

They also make the 917's nemisis, the Ferrari 512S (in both Le Mans Long Tail Coupe and open Spyder versions) and 512M. These are excellent kits, BTW.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:27 AM
Thanks for the information and link vintagerpm! I see they have a McLaren too, I've always been such a sucker for those cars!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:57 AM
It is good to see I'm not alone in love of the 917. Thanks for the good info. I have a Testors packaged 1971 917K also. I've been afraid to even open it, for fear of never being able to get another. I'll probably build it now. Keep it rolling.

Greg
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:47 PM
Wow! Didn't know there were so many rabid 917 fans out there. I haven't seen the Fujimi kit since I have been out of touch for a while. Trying to get back into building. I do have (somewhere in the garage) two Heller 917 kits. One in Gulf livery, short tail. One Martini, white with tail fins. Never did build them when bought around 1980. Very, very detailed. More complicated than the old IMC GT40 kits. Anyway, wondered if anyone had built one of these Heller kits.
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Posted by lumpulus on Friday, January 16, 2004 7:10 AM
I have the Martini Kit from Heller and it scares me just opening the package. :)

It's gonna be a b!tch to put together.
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Posted by DoubleFourValve on Friday, January 16, 2004 7:15 AM
I think the Heller and Union kits are thesame. They were originally isued by Revell and then the same tool was used on the Union kits. The Martini car is the Le Mans winner of 71.
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Posted by DoubleFourValve on Friday, January 16, 2004 7:17 AM
Sorry!

For "Revell" I mean "Heller"...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 12:38 PM
As one who is building the Fisher Chaparral 2E I can tell you that Paul's kits are great. If you are looking for info on his Porsche 917 longtail email me at rkjweber@planetkc.com. Hope this helps, Rene'.
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Posted by DoubleFourValve on Saturday, January 17, 2004 5:42 PM
Studio 27 is releasing decals for the 917k. A Martini 71, an Austria 70, and a Piper.
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Posted by FreedomEagle1953 on Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:26 PM
This Fujimi 917 kit is great news ... I have been a huge fan of the 917 since seeing Steve McQueen in LeMans all those years ago ... I even have the movie on VHS tape. Tongue

A few years ago I broke down and bought the diecast of the #20 McQueen 917. I must say I am not much for diecast ... but that one I had to have ... it has a favored spot in one of my display cases. Big Smile

I had always hoped ... (still do) ... that Accurate Miniatures would do a 917 Porsche along the lines of their McLaren Mk8b ... well ... a fellow can hope can't he ... ??? Approve

There are a few of us 917 nuts ... here and there ... Thumbs UpWhistling

FreedomEagle1953

Chicago, IL area

"keep on building 'em ... but  don't glue your fingers together"

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 19, 2004 1:04 AM
It is about time someone produced a plastic kit ,of this famous racer. I too have considered buying the die-cast ,but what fun would that be. The Fisher kit looks good,but 95.00 is still a lot money . I will be looking for this fumji kit for a future project.
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Posted by kevlar86 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:31 AM
Sign - Ditto Hard to justify paying that much money no matter how great the kit is. Smile
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Posted by Porsnatic on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:45 PM
Hi I already built the Union version for the 1970 Le Mans Winner.I think that for that time(1980's or before for the originals Hellers),Heller did a great trying to duplica the details on the original car.In the one that I built,which took about 7 months reading,and watching films,pictures and documentals,I found some errors that not represent the actual car that won Le Mans.You guys should remeber that this was a kit intended to build either the Red-Orange car as well the Blue Gulf car.

Talking about a 917k fan,the display that I have for this model,includes the 1/43 BBR,the 1/32 old MPC,the 1/28 Mitsawa,and the 1/24 Union,all discontinued and with the red(original Porsche Guards Red)livery.My recomendation,you want a serious Porsche 917k model,try either the Profil 24 or the Le Mans Miniatures ones!...The following link will guide you guys to pictures of my 1/24 model.

http://www.550m.com/usuarios/artecar24/sr/porsche917k.html

Porsnatic


QUOTE: Originally posted by NW Oval Fan

Wow! Didn't know there were so many rabid 917 fans out there. I haven't seen the Fujimi kit since I have been out of touch for a while. Trying to get back into building. I do have (somewhere in the garage) two Heller 917 kits. One in Gulf livery, short tail. One Martini, white with tail fins. Never did build them when bought around 1980. Very, very detailed. More complicated than the old IMC GT40 kits. Anyway, wondered if anyone had built one of these Heller kits.
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Posted by nitrojunkie on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:07 PM
Hi I have been waiting for a kit of this car for a long time.I'm aproaching 40 I was 6 when the car was being campaigned.I to fell in love with this car at a very young age.Will somebody give me the kit number for the Fujimi kit?I would greatly appreciate this info.Did your local hobby shop order it ,or did you have to go through an importer?
I love the smell of Nitro in the morning!!! AKA Ernest Harmon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nitrojunkie

Hi I have been waiting for a kit of this car for a long time.I'm aproaching 40 I was 6 when the car was being campaigned.I to fell in love with this car at a very young age.Will somebody give me the kit number for the Fujimi kit?I would greatly appreciate this info.Did your local hobby shop order it ,or did you have to go through an importer?


red Salzburg #23 1970 Le Mans Winner
12173-1/24-2600

powder blue Gulf #20 1970 Le Mans Siffert/Redman
(or McQueen's car from the movie "Le Mans")
12175-1/24-2600

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vintagerpm
red Salzburg #23 1970 Le Mans Winner
12173-1/24-2600

powder blue Gulf #20 1970 Le Mans Siffert/Redman
(or McQueen's car from the movie "Le Mans")
12175-1/24-2600


Forgot to mention I got mine direct from Japan from Hobby Link Japan:
http://www.hlj.com/

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Posted by nitrojunkie on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:27 PM
Thanks for the info.I am going to try to get my hobby shop to order it.If they cant I'll get it from HLJ.I hate to pay the shipping costs though considering the wait for delivery.I have a good reference book on the 917.
I love the smell of Nitro in the morning!!! AKA Ernest Harmon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:35 PM
Thanks for the info vintagerpm. I'll be looking for this kit as well.
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Posted by nitrojunkie on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:14 AM
I just ordered the car kit and the upgrade kit.Seems that the importers do not import all of the Fujimi releases.This comes from my hobby shop guy.He also says HLJ is a good company to deal with.According to their web site they only have a low number of kits on hand.I feel like I did at 6or 7 on Christmas eve.A little info on this car for those interested.The car stands 37 inches tall,the 917 weighed 309 lbs less than a 914/6 and developed more than 5 times the power.The book I have shows the two cars side by side.The roofline on the 917 appears only inches higher than the top of the 914's door skin.The width is about the same at the front fenders.
I love the smell of Nitro in the morning!!! AKA Ernest Harmon
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:24 AM
I've got 5 of the Union 917 kits in my collection ( 2 Martini, 3 Gulf ) and I built one of the Gulf cars not to long ago. It took a while to finish and if you can get over the bad fitting parts and the need to do a lot filling and sanding, you will have a nice looking model. The Heller 917's are garbage. Worse then the Union kits for fit and the plastic that they used is just too wierd. The fujimi 917 looks not bad, but I don't know if I'll buy one because I've got the Unions.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 12:32 PM
Hi All;
Just completed the 917 kit, and it really only has a simplified plate on the base of the tub for an engine, and another one on top with the injectors, or rather the visible velocity stack cover (?) Very similar to their GT 40 kits. in fact, shey are really alike in that the body shape, wheels/tires and general detail are spot on but they (Fujimi) have an exasperating knack of almost giving you a perfect kit and then pulling back at the last moment. Also, the decals are quite transparent. By the way, I just got the Historic Racing Miniatures transkit for the engine on my GT 40 and it looks to be about the nicest resin I've seen in this scale, and only $25.

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