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410 Sprintcar....Finished.... 02-17-15

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410 Sprintcar....Finished.... 02-17-15
Posted by Gary Davis on Friday, July 18, 2014 8:31 PM

Finally getting to this build. This car was built by Todd Carmichael( My Cousin) and his Crew. They ran on the West Coast(mostly Northern calif., Oregon and Wa.) with this car in 2003 and 1/2 of 2004. The motor broke 1/2 way thru the 04 season and they couldn't come up with the $50K to get another motor to finish the season. But....they did win an "A" Main and Ran well with the WoO guys when they did the WEST COAST SWEEP. He ran at the Silver Dollar Speedway..."DIRT CUP"( 3 seasons..this car twice and the 33 car once) in Chico Calif..... before Leaving the dirt and moving over to Asphalt.

This Chassis started out as one of the Stealth chassis' from a Monogram kit,which is a "LOW BAR" chassis(no down tubes from Cage to front end). A lot of the bottom bar work is the same as the J&J chassis(HIGH BAR chassis...two down tubes from roll cage to front end) so I didn't have to replace them or start from "SCRATCH" completely. I did Research on the NET and also talked with TODD quite a bit to get some of the small details on his car. I'll explain the build as I go. Here are a few pics of the chassis and the new barbar work.
A Reference picture of His 1/1 at speed..( please forgive the Quality as I didn't shoot the pic)

annnd here's what I've got done so far...


With the Seat in mock up...

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Posted by darboss on Sunday, July 20, 2014 5:44 PM

I like that seat, where did you get it?

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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, July 21, 2014 3:16 PM

That is a Kirkey style seat that Dirt Modeler puts out. You can find the seat along with much more Racing "STUFF" at his site. Just click on the link.  http://www.dirtmodeler.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=76  He's a great guy to deal with and he ships right away.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Friday, July 25, 2014 3:41 PM

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Posted by rit on Sunday, July 27, 2014 3:56 PM

Nice looking fab work and I like your jig.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Sunday, July 27, 2014 4:10 PM

rit

Nice looking fab work and I like your jig.

Thanks for the compliment rit. I really like your gold Modified that you built of your friends car too. It sure hits the mark...

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Posted by Gary Davis on Friday, August 22, 2014 9:20 PM
Here's an overdue update. The cross bar that supports the KSE steering is added. The front shock mounts on the Down Bars were also fabbed. New front wing mounts had to be made and added to the down bars also. The side panels on the front wing were also fabbed and are in mock in these pics. I pinned them so they can be removed to paint. All the wing Panels( front and Top) were body color. The Shocks have to be built and that is next. Here are a few pics...thanks for looking in...
frontwingshockmounts004-vi.jpg
frontwingshockmounts001-vi.jpg
frontwingshockmounts006-vi.jpg
frontwingshockmounts008-vi.jpg

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Posted by Gary Davis on Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:21 PM

Here's a Rear end(quick change) and WING update. Both wings are mocked up to get the correct angle so I can build the brackets for the big wing back bar mounts. I also wanted to see the relationship between the front wing.....down bars....and top of the rollcage. Looking at the picture and comparing it to that...it looks pretty darn close... Also...I got the Franklin quick change made into the winters. I still have to make the brackets for the cable and also the bar that the cable connects to...that will be finished this week....

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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, September 1, 2014 6:54 PM

Here's a small update to show the small stuff. The shocks( front and rear) where cut off and new built. They are in mockup in the pics. The small shock(or cylinder) on top is the hydraulic wing adjuster that is also fabricated. The left Top wing panel also has been dropped 3". It's hard to see that in a pic so I won't post it. It's starting to look kinda like a 410 Sprintcar. Still a ways to go but it's getting there.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:16 PM

I've got the slider in mock up. The bolts are not glued so it can come apart for painting. Now...it's time to get the slider valve made...

with out the wing attached....

With the wing on....

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Posted by Gary Davis on Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:31 PM

Finally been able to get a few things done on this car. These are the headers with mufflers that were mandatory. I also had to make a new dash as the gauges were to low. I'll show update pics of that later as it is mocked up in the chassis for measurements.


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Posted by Gary Davis on Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:38 PM

A few progress pics.Here's the new dash I mentioned earlier. The fittings for the oil tank(resin after mrkt) and the radiator(fabbed) have been added. The tail fuel tank is in mock up to get measurements. The hood and all the panels have to be fabbed...but they will built just before painting the chassis.

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:19 PM

Gary Big Smile

You have a knack for making this look so easy. I wouldn't have a clue how to do a build like this, but it sure is fun to watch your creativity juices come to life.

I also like your very clean, neat, and organized work area - NICE Thumbs Up!

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Gary Davis on Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:08 PM

Hey Dave...thank you for the compliment. The work bench area is a Liiitttle different outside of the camera lens...LOL

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Posted by Gary Davis on Monday, October 20, 2014 6:59 PM

Well folks....I've finally got the hood dilemma( at least it was for me....LOL) figured out today. I started with the kit hood and modified it. I cut the down bars off of the side panels of the kit hood. Attached the sides to the top to get a measurement. Had to widen it 4mm and I'm going to have to lengthen the back that sits over the firewall and the sides about 7mm. You can see that in the pics.. I've also got ALL the drilling for wires and plumbing finished. here's a few pics of the progress...thanks for looking in...

The two separate sides of the hood with the inside supports...


With the center section added and in mock-up.
Still more work to get it to the correct height and sit...but it's getting there...

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Posted by sflam123 on Monday, October 20, 2014 10:23 PM

Nice work!  Looks REALLY good!!

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Posted by Gary Davis on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:55 PM

Thank you for the compliment sflam....  

OK....I got the extensions built on the hood. It looks a lot better to me now. I still need to trim some off the side panels(both sides) and a little on the nose. Then...I think it's ready to prime and do the body putty thing. Here are a few pics of that progress. 


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Posted by Gary Davis on Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:31 PM

Here's an update on the body panels....I worked on the hood and got it to sit where it's suppose to. I need to trim a little off the bottom yet. Got all the panels measured and cut( with the exception of the right top side)...it has the arm bubble in it and I had to add material to make it work out. It's curing and will go on tomorrow. This is in mockup and it's really starting to look like a 410 now. Thanks for looking in folks.... 

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Posted by PatrickW on Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:33 AM

Although we don't see this type of dirt tracker in the UK, I'm very  impressed with the build. So much so I've ordered a few of the Kirkey seats to put in other cars!

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Posted by Gary Davis on Friday, October 24, 2014 5:41 PM

Thank you Patrick. You'll like the seats. Mike does a great job making them. They're pretty easy to work with. I didn't solder mine. I used CA. Once it's in primer and the pads put on....won't even know the difference.

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:11 PM

Hi Gary I've got mine today here in the UK. They look superb in the packets. I can't solder so I use CA as I did on my BMW Z4 with the PE rear wing uprights and front and rear grills. You mention padding?

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Posted by Gary Davis on Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:54 PM

   


PatrickW

Hi Gary I've got mine today here in the UK. They look superb in the packets. I can't solder so I use CA as I did on my BMW Z4 with the PE rear wing uprighta and front and rear grills. You mention padding?

 A lot of the sprintcar guys used pads(cushions) in the Butt...head...and arms(rib area) of the seats. Todd had all of that and they were black. Here is a link for you to go to (just click on it)  http://www.smileysracing.com/shopping/?ic=1436  ...you can see which seat you have. I think there are 7 different styles... The Third seat is the one I'm replicating. Hope this helps you

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Posted by Gary Davis on Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:05 PM

Here is an update on the body work...All panels are fabbed and mocked up in these pics....it's getting there...a little at a time....Thanks for looking in folks..


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Posted by PatrickW on Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:44 PM

Your doing a great job there Gary. Thanks for the info, I'd also looked at the Kirkey site and saw the padding but not for this seat.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:47 PM

Thank you Patrick. I was just showing you the site so you could see what the pads looked like on Tims' car. I'll be probably using paper towel cut to shape and painted black. 

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Posted by PatrickW on Friday, October 31, 2014 11:54 AM

Yes Gary I have some black tightly woven cycle handlebar tape that will look good, I'll test that out on a pre cut template in plastic first.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:01 PM

PatrickW

Yes Gary I have some black tightly woven cycle handlebar tape that will look good, I'll test that out on a pre cut template in plastic first.

That sounds good Patrick. I'll bet it will look killer when you apply it.

Here's a progress update...Putty is on the body panels that needed it. It looks like a lot of putty...but is really not. It sands off real easy. Also...All the body attachment points on the chassis have been completed and it will be ready for primer. A soon as this putty is dry...it will be prepped and it also will be primed...Hopefully...today. Here's a pic to show some progress.... 


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Posted by 2lapsdown on Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:22 PM

What kind of putty are you using?  I'm looking forward to the painting process.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:40 PM

2lapsdown

What kind of putty are you using?  I'm looking forward to the painting process.

 Hey 2laps....it's 3M BONDO Glazing & Spot Putty. It comes in a 4.5 oz tube. I found it at Wal Mart in the Automotive paint and repair section. It's easy to work with and is sandable in about 20-30 minutes. Here's a pic of a tube...Hope this helps you... 

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Posted by Gary Davis on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:06 PM

Here's an update...Every thing has been primed and the chassis has been shot the blue That Todd used. The Kirkey racing seat has been shot with Alclad and the pads added. The racing harness will be added when the seat is mounted permanently. here are a few pics....thanks for looking in folks....

The Seat...

The Chassis..

Seat mocked up....


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