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1969 Dodge Charger Daytona
Posted by texwardfan on Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:39 PM

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Posted by texwardfan on Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:52 PM

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Posted by mrmike on Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:55 PM

You definitely have your work cut out for you building the MPC Dodge Daytona!  I have heard nothing but complaints about that kit.  I'm looking forward to see the excellent work you can do with this kit.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Thursday, May 14, 2020 9:35 PM

...and the box art is no help at all, several mistakes visible,

 

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Posted by texwardfan on Friday, May 15, 2020 7:53 AM

You are both exactly right, The engineering on this kit is a joke. They even say in the directions that you have to use putty on the nose. I have never seen that in directions for any kit unless you are adding custom items, We shall see. I think I can get it some what presentable. 

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Posted by DAYTONA on Friday, May 15, 2020 8:17 AM

...I have never opened one, but it seems like I remember it being an incorrect Dukes Charger body, which was an MPC / NASCAR left over of sorts

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Posted by texwardfan on Friday, May 15, 2020 5:05 PM

DAYTONA

...I have never opened one, but it seems like I remember it being an incorrect Dukes Charger body, which was an MPC / NASCAR left over of sorts

 

Its close enough to get by with. I'm making a nascar version of the car so I'm going to have to modify a lot of it anyway. If you were tring to make it street stock there would be more of a problem making it look right.

 

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Posted by DAYTONA on Saturday, May 16, 2020 4:55 PM

...I still have several of the original MPC Daytona NASCAR kits (unopened), pretty sure they became the Dukes car......stock or NASCAR, yes sir, you have a tough job ahead, anxious to see the finished product, fascinating automotive era, street and track,

 

...last thought, sadly, many winged cars had the noses smoothed (filled in) like the box art and had custom paint jobs, another possibility,

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Posted by texwardfan on Saturday, May 16, 2020 5:31 PM

I've got some pretty good ref shots of the car I'm doing and will just try to duplicate them the best I can. Like the other cars I have done. Some things have been removed like park lamps, side marker lamps, turn signal lamps in the hood, and wiper blades . I will have to add a fuel cap and filler to the left quarter panel and oh yes some hood an trunk lock pins and e clips.

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Posted by texwardfan on Monday, May 18, 2020 5:34 PM

Did some more work to the front fenders to get them closer to being presentable. Also where the roof meets the quarter panel on both sides there are huge casting seems that have to be fixed. I'm trying to get the body right so i will have a body guage to create the decals for the build. Usually I can just take the body right out of the box and start creating decals but not with this one.

 

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Posted by steveracer on Monday, May 18, 2020 6:16 PM

You're gonna make it work as a stock car.  Keep at it. Looks like a road race version or a shorter track version with that oil cooler opening in the light area. That's a nice detail 

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Posted by DAYTONA on Monday, May 18, 2020 7:13 PM

...holes under fender scoops ?

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Posted by texwardfan on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:05 AM

steveracer

You're gonna make it work as a stock car.  Keep at it. Looks like a road race version or a shorter track version with that oil cooler opening in the light area. That's a nice detail 

 

 

Actually Steve , this car only ran one race and it was at Daytona. I probably just gave away the identity of the car.  But it did have a screen for the oil cooler in the left  headlight cover. But I doubt if i will be adding the oil cooler under the hood. There will be some detail under there, but I'm not going whole hog on it.

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Posted by texwardfan on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:13 AM

DAYTONA

...holes under fender scoops ?

 

 

No, DAYTONA. I think I will leave that up to the imagination of the viewer. I dont know if you can call them scoops.  Maybe they should be considered exhausts because they are really facing the wrong way to be scoops. Unless the car was going backwards then they could be scoops. Im wondering if the real car actually had them functional or maybe they were just for looks?

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Posted by TarheelRick on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:31 AM

Are you going to put racer tape along the top of the windshield, or do I have the wrong car in mind?

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Posted by texwardfan on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 1:48 PM

TarheelRick

Are you going to put racer tape along the top of the windshield, or do I have the wrong car in mind?

 

 

Well actually Rick, at the beginning of the race, there was no tape, but toward the end there was some on the right side top of the windshield and a narrower piece at the top of the left side of the windshield. But i would think all the cars used varying amounts of that tape back then.

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Posted by texwardfan on Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:40 PM

Getting close to finishing the body. Still have to make the wheel openings larger. Remove the right door handle. Add the fuel filler and cap. Trim the nose filler to make it more flush. And a few other things I will notice later.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:58 PM

...Chrysler called them “Scoops“.....race cars, they had holes under the scoops and functioned as air extractors for the engine box, removed heat, helped keep the nose down along with the under nose spoiler,

...street versions, Daytona had circular shaped holes 5-6 inches wide, under the scoops, with screen covering the holes fom the inside.... Superbirds didn’t have the holes although dealers had templates and were instructed by a TSB to cut holes if the customer requested,

...street Daytona, the only unmodified body panels were the doors....a most interesting time in NASCAR

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Posted by texwardfan on Thursday, May 21, 2020 8:14 AM

DAYTONA

...Chrysler called them “Scoops“.....race cars, they had holes under the scoops and functioned as air extractors for the engine box, removed heat, helped keep the nose down along with the under nose spoiler,

...street versions, Daytona had circular shaped holes 5-6 inches wide, under the scoops, with screen covering the holes fom the inside.... Superbirds didn’t have the holes although dealers had templates and were instructed by a TSB to cut holes if the customer requested,

...street Daytona, the only unmodified body panels were the doors....a most interesting time in NASCAR

 

Thanks , DAYTONA. Scoops is definitely a misnomer, but I guess extractors just doesnt sound right, so they went with scoops. You can see how it would help get rid of lift in the front end at least on the race car. Thanks for that info.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:42 PM

...aero effects become noticeable around 70mph on street cars, faster you go, the lower they get...spent a lot of time and miles at the wheel of several Winged Warriors

...anxious to follow your build,

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Posted by texwardfan on Friday, May 22, 2020 7:32 AM

DAYTONA

...aero effects become noticeable around 70mph on street cars, faster you go, the lower they get...spent a lot of time and miles at the wheel of several Winged Warriors

...anxious to follow your build,

 

 

I remenber the first time i saw them at a show room in houston back in 69. If I remember correctly none of them were over 5 grand sticker price. Of course i was begging my dad to buy one. That was never going to happen. and 5 grand back then was a lot of money.  I bought a charger se in 1973 for $3995.00. It had a 400 with a 2 barrel carburetor. needless to say it was a dog of a car. I could have got a 440 4 barrel but I didnt want to pay the extra couple of hundred bucks to get it. Not a smart person at all back then.

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Posted by texwardfan on Friday, May 22, 2020 9:22 AM

i found side picture of the car im making so I took the picture and scaled it to match the model then I cut out the wheel opening s and taped it to the sides of the model so I could trace where the wheel openings were cut on the real car to have room for the racing tires.

 

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Posted by DAYTONA on Friday, May 22, 2020 12:15 PM

...Daytona, base price, $3,993.00

...my current one, MSRP was $4770.25, correct, a lot of money in 1969 (and they were ugly LOL).....addition of the 426 HEMI would push the price into the $5,500. price range

...like your work on the wheel wells

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Posted by PatrickN on Friday, May 22, 2020 3:58 PM
Nice mods on the wheel wells and a great idea on how to get a template for that!

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Posted by texwardfan on Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:30 AM

DAYTONA

...Daytona, base price, $3,993.00

...my current one, MSRP was $4770.25, correct, a lot of money in 1969 (and they were ugly LOL).....addition of the 426 HEMI would push the price into the $5,500. price range

...like your work on the wheel wells

 

 

thanks for that info Daytona. But I never thought they looked ugly. I remember when I went to nuevo Laredo back in the day. I think it was around 1974. this guy was cruising around the square in one, and it looked like he had cut the wing off with a sabre saw. Now that was ugly.

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Posted by texwardfan on Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:35 AM

PatrickN
Nice mods on the wheel wells and a great idea on how to get a template for that!
 

Thanks Patrick . Gotta make room for the racing tires. hope to put a small lip on it at the top of the openings.

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Posted by texwardfan on Monday, May 25, 2020 8:10 AM

used an exacto knife and a saw to remove the excess plastic. just scribe around the line and after the cuts are made with the saw just bend over the plastic till it breaks and you can then remove it. saves a lot of time over just cutting with the exacto knife. even faster then a dremel that can get away from you and ruin the job.

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Posted by texwardfan on Monday, June 1, 2020 9:27 AM

If your wondering where the wing went, the model fell off the table and came apart. I have since then, put it back on. Been working on the decals. More then half are finished. Been making them at 850 p.p.i. They are coming out much clearer and should look better on the model. My ink jet printer only printed at 600 p.p.i. so I didnt make them bigger then that for that printer. this laser printer  can handle the 850 p.p.i.

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Posted by Bainford on Monday, June 1, 2020 10:40 AM

Looking great, Mark. Nice race mods on the body. Bummer about the wing.

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Posted by steveracer on Monday, June 1, 2020 9:20 PM

I happened to be going through junk the other day and saw yor car in a Racing Pictorial.  Can't wait to see the final result.  I appreciate your stock car modeling prowess.  I will share one soon that I JUST finished, and need some good pics.

 

Also, I have found a cool old school model from my youth that I need to "freshen" for the stock car circuit.  

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