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1933 Willys Coupe Fenderless (update 11/26/11)

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1933 Willys Coupe Fenderless (update 11/26/11)
Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:29 PM

I have not posted in a long time.  I have been out of the country on business and have only looked in once in a while to see what everyone has been doing.  I am back in the US now and have been tinkering with an AMT '33 Willys to make a fenderless street rod like one that was in Street Rodder a couple of years ago.

thanks jonesmarc!

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Posted by jonesmarc on Saturday, July 31, 2010 2:23 PM

 i think this will be a sharp looking build when its finish so keep us posted.

oh yeah i also sent you a pm on how to post pics.  hope it helps!

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Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:55 PM

Now that I have the getting pictures to show problem out of the way, I have more to share. 

After cutting off the fenders, I had to decide if I wanted open sides on the hood.  The Willys I saw in Street Rodder had closed hood sides and lots of other body work performed to get the "right look".  I can't afford the time investment for that look, but I think it will look better closed.  So I cut some .045 thick styrene sheet to fit in the remaining openings in the hood and superglued them in.  I also superglued the roof filler, trunk panel and hood onto the body. 

I will modify the chassis and add an engine (small block Chev), but I really just want the finished model to look cool, not do a super detailed build.  Below is the mockup of the body on parts bin wheels and tires.  You can notice that I opened up the rear wheel wells to fit the tires.

Drag racing and model building/collecting are my hobbies.

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Posted by mvadrag on Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:00 AM

Here is a shot of the modified chassis.  You can see I cut off the front frame horns for the hinged hood and fenders.  I added some depth to the frame plus filled in some cutouts in the frame for the front spring mounts and exhaust routing just to clean things up.  I need to figure out a hot rod front axle attachment, right now the mockup uses a Wild Willy Borsch dropped front axle taped to the front crossmember.

I trimmed the interior tub by 1/8th inch to lower the body on the chassis.  You can see I have to fill the front of the floorboard where the tub gets wider as it goes up the body.  Also hard to see is I have narrowed the rear wheel wells to fit inside the body and match the rear wheel cutouts.  The rear tires will partially hang out the body for a hot rod look.  I am not sure about using the parallel springs for the rear suspension, but I have chopped some of the height out of the spring eyes to drop the rear (not enough), pictures to come soon.

Drag racing and model building/collecting are my hobbies.

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Posted by gbk1 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:48 AM

This build has a lovely stance. Love the sheet plastic fill work. The total look really will benefit from it. Really looking forward to seeing this progress. CoolSmileThumbs Up

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Posted by Snake45 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:51 AM

I very much like where you're going with this! Do keep us posted with your progress!

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Posted by mvadrag on Sunday, August 1, 2010 10:53 AM

Rear quarter view of the stance.  Notice the jacked up Gasser stance on the box art.

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Posted by gbk1 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 12:36 PM

Nice... Really looking forward to seeing the chassis work you put into this. Are you thinking of filling the rear deck? You do such nice plastic sheet work it might be worth a go...

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Posted by Snake45 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 12:38 PM

Amazing, I can't recall ever seeing a fenderless '33 Willys altered back in the day. You'd think it would be a natural.

There was the Prock & Howell funnycar-like AA/FA, but that one ran full fenders IIRC.

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Dragged behind the clownmobile...."

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Posted by Cycolac Fan on Sunday, August 1, 2010 2:02 PM

 Nice idea, might have to give this a try myself. Like a '34 Ford but different.

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Posted by streetrod on Sunday, August 1, 2010 6:57 PM

You're doing a real good job so far, my friend. I like the idea and your execution is great. Looking forward to seeing it's progress through to completion.

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Posted by pharr7226 on Monday, August 2, 2010 12:27 PM

 Really nice work.  The mods are well thought out and executed.  Keep it up.

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Posted by Ragnar on Monday, August 2, 2010 4:23 PM

NICE, I really like what you are doing so far!

CHEERS!

CHEERS!

Tom

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Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, August 7, 2010 10:03 AM

Thanks for all the good comments.  I will try to keep a good pace, but I am also fixing one of my rooms in the basement.  I have to work a little now and then.

I added the filler for the floor and started to figure out the rear suspension.

Lowering blocks for the springs and then a dunk in the tank to get rid of chrome.

Drag racing and model building/collecting are my hobbies.

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Posted by SLUSHER on Sunday, August 8, 2010 1:04 AM

very original idea. looks great. it looks great with out fenders. love the original look. how did you come up with it? slusher

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Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:35 AM

I did a little filling and sanding to smooth the body out a little.  Got out the Krylon satin black for a quick prime.  New can but the paint came out lumpy so there is a fine graininess to the finish.  Bummer.

 

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Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:44 AM

Sorted some of the suspension parts.  Rear is stock but lowered.  Front comes from the Revell 32 Ford kit (used spare parts).  Dechromed the front axle and made a mount on the chassis (covered by tape in this picture).  Looking for some good hairpins from the spares pile.  I will take a few shots of the new front later.

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Posted by gbk1 on Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:11 AM

Lookin' great so far. Hoping you battle mightily to hang on to that killer stance in your mockup!CoolSmileBig Smile

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Posted by amator on Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:59 PM

Nice progress on this one I am liking the orignality of your idea too.I have purchased a 33 Willy's now and plan on doing something similar.I did not really like these 33's before seeing your thread,I do now.Thanks

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Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:10 PM

Couldn't resist another mock up with the primed body.  Glue is drying on the rear suspension to see if I can maintain the low height with the modified springs.  I have to dig around for a different set of wheels that attach to the kit housing for mock up purposes.  Update: I went ahead and replaced the picture with a new one using the new suspension (see below).  Looks like it will work for the look I want.

Still need to figure out mounts for a SB Chevy, a 392 style hemi will not fit now that I filled the hood sides.  thanks for the comments.

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Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:16 PM

gbk1

Nice... Really looking forward to seeing the chassis work you put into this. Are you thinking of filling the rear deck? You do such nice plastic sheet work it might be worth a go...

I thought of that but I don't want to fill the deck  Having it keeps the look of the Willys body.  The car I saw in Street Rodder had the spare tire well intact.

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Posted by streetrodnut on Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:54 AM

Are you going with a more traditional approach with the small block chevy or more contemporary? If you go contemporary, Lindberg's 37 ford custom, aka Boyd Coddington's smoothster, has some cool accessories. Revell's '69 nova or '30 Model A touring reissue has nice small block chevy engines as well. Btw, my name is Ken and I like what you've got going with this Willys.Big Smile

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Posted by SLUSHER on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:20 AM

great progress on your build. i really like that you made the roof smooth. the willys really is a much better looking car with the way your building it...slusher

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Posted by del austin on Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:19 PM

I liked this when I first saw it and the more I look at it the more I like it! I have a feeling we will be seeing many variations of this original idea! 

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Posted by mvadrag on Friday, August 20, 2010 8:59 PM

I appreciate all the comments.  Lots of folks interested in my build is really cool.  I was looking for a smallblock Chevy in my stash and tried a Revell Chevy part pack version.

It fits the inside the frame and will easily fit inside the hood sides with space for headers or stock manifolds.  But I like pairing same maker kit parts, so I was digging for an AMT smallblock from my parts bins.  What I found were some Pontiac engines, also from old parts packs: AMT and Revell.

One of those dare to be different things.  These engines are already builts I collected from buying at swap meets and other guys old collections (I can't resist).  I have new stuff in a box somewhere.

Looks like the AMT Pontiac will fit after I make some mounts to locate the motor and trans combo.  I may have to create a little bit of a trans tunnel to get the motor up higher, it hangs a little low.  Also may have to notch the firewall for magneto clearance.  Stock manifolds will be required too, space is tighter on the sides.

This is alot of work for a motor that really will not be seen because, if you remember, I glued the hood to the body so the only thing that can be seen is from the bottom.  If you guys are building your own, you may want to have the hood sides or top removeable to show off your work.

Drag racing and model building/collecting are my hobbies.

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Posted by Snake45 on Friday, August 20, 2010 10:30 PM

Fabulous work! Drive on, my brother!

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Dragged behind the clownmobile...."

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Posted by mvadrag on Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:47 AM

I dug around in my boxes and found the Pontiac engine in both the AMT Blueprinter Parts Pack (no chrome) and the AMT Competition Parts Pack that was released last year (chrome).  I will probably use the no chrome version.  Still have to find suitable exhaust that fit.  I have some MPC 67 Pontiac parts saved up for my Mr Unswitchable restoration (another thread in Racecars), those may work.

Drag racing and model building/collecting are my hobbies.

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Posted by mvadrag on Sunday, December 5, 2010 7:26 PM

Hello everyone.  Long time between posts.  I have been working on basement instead of working on models.  Now I have completed my hobby room and also have a working media room with new sheetrock, paint, ceiling, lights, and all the electronics hooked up.  I also did all the wood trim and refinished all the doors to match.  Phew!

Last time, I decided to use a Pontiac engine in the Willys.  After mocking up the engine a lttle better, I realized the floor needed bell housing and trans clearance to fit right.  That's when it all went back in the box.  Now I have gotten a box of old junk kits from my friend and had some material to work with.  An AMT Willys parts box yielded a cab interior that I raided for the tran tunnel.  After a bunch of trimming and filing, I glued it in place and cutout the floor board to match.

Oops, loaded too big a picture (have to gt used to doing the posts again).

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Posted by mvadrag on Sunday, December 5, 2010 7:39 PM

One more shot of the new space for the tranny.

Also added a notch for distributor clearance on the firewall.  Need to work on engine mounts next.

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Posted by Snake45 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 9:08 PM

Been wondering what happened with this. Looking good! Drive on!

Recovering aircraft modeler. "I can see me bound and gagged

Dragged behind the clownmobile...."

--Warren Zevon, "Hostage-O," Life'll Kill Ya, Artemis Record 2000

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