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29 Ford Roadster - TROG Theme build for NNL West 2018 - Completed with Final Pics

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29 Ford Roadster - TROG Theme build for NNL West 2018 - Completed with Final Pics
Posted by gbk1 on Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:23 AM

For the last several years every winter I try to make it down to the NNL West in Santa Clara, California from my home in Seattle, Washington. It’s a huge show with around 1,000 cars models on display and with some of the finest models you are ever likely to see. Each year the organizers choose 2 themes and reserve feature tables for each.  This year’s themes are The Race of Gentlemen and Show Cars.



I’m hoping to build 2 entries for the TROG theme table. I just started on the first of them. It’s a straightforward pre-WWII dry lakes ’29 Ford inspired by this box art illustration from the recently re-issued AMT Mod Rod:



It will be built largely out of the box with detail modifications to improve the detail and authenticity somewhat. For example, rather than using the hopelessly skinny and somewhat crude spoked wheels from the kit I’m using the far nicer early Kelsey Hayes wire wheels from the AMT ’34 Ford 5-window coupe kit. The front tires are the ones found in the Mod Rod and countless other AMT ’29 Ford Roadster variants, but the rear tires are from the Revell ’40 Ford Standard kit. The whitewalls on both types of tires have been finished over in flat black. The whole setup is more like what was seen in the early days at El Mirage in the mid 30’s

Over the years some of the 4 banger hop up parts originally in the ’29 Ford/Ala Kart double kit were lost, notably the Riley Type B 2-port heads. Fortunately a very nice set can be found in the Revellogram ’30 Ford Sedan kit and the fit is exact on the AMT block. I once did a project where I installed the entire Revellogram 4-banger in an AMT ’29 Ford Roadster chassis, but the Revell piece its larger in several key dimensions and it required extensive work to squeeze it in the AMT chassis. This time I’m building up the basic AMT short block, improving details where I can. Once such modification is to reshape the molded in starter motor to resemble a Wilco Magneto. Removing the starter motor and driving a Wilco Magneto off the flywheel was a standard hop-up in the 30’s I haven’t finished the work on the magneto but I’m getting close. Hopefully I’ll be able to wire up the motor in the next week or so.

Here’s the status of things so far:




Overall this is a very simple build, pretty much straight out of the box. As is my habit, I’m making up a bunch of period decals. The sponsor is Gilmore Oil, a famous Southern California oil company of the period. Sponsorship was fairly rare but Gilmore sponsored q fair number of circle track cars, racing airplanes and speedboats, so the theme is not totally out of the question. All the fonts and text are lifted directly from period Gilmore advertising. Below is a Photoshop mockup of the basic graphics. In addition there will be racing numbers on the doors and perhaps some additional Wilco and Firestone trade decals.



Thanx for lookin’,
B.

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Posted by chucky on Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:33 AM

Cool, Bernard! Go get 'em! Thumbs Up

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Posted by Bainford on Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:22 AM

Another cool period build. I love the concept, looking forward to seeing it come together.

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:22 PM

Yet another beauty Bernard . Don't forget a flat cap plaid shirt & ridiculous turn-ups on your jeans ! ! ( they do have scissors people !)  LOL

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Posted by Gluecipher on Friday, December 15, 2017 5:01 PM

I must say this is plain nice project you got. Im very interested to see all the mods you do the engine, as i really really like them 4bangers. I have the same kit as you are using as base,plus Revells Sedan which i got only for its Riley head. These early racers are always nice too see.

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Posted by gbk1 on Friday, December 15, 2017 7:40 PM

Thanks for all the interest, everyone. Once I get the Wico magneto finished up I'll show some detail about that. In the meantime Here's a quick update of the side view with the number and Wico and Firestone decals in place:

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Posted by littletimmy on Friday, December 15, 2017 9:13 PM

I love the "Early" racing machine's.

Back when "men were men" and Band-aid's wouldn't help you if you rolled your car !

( Seat belt's ????? )

That is one fine Automobile you have there ! Can't wait to see her at the starting line !

Dont worry about the thumb print.... paint it rust and call it battle damage.

   Soon to be on the bench...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by gbk1 on Thursday, December 21, 2017 7:29 PM

Thanx littletimmy!

Here’s what I’m hoping will be the final update. I’d like to be able to include this one in my 2017 builds. The “long pole in the tent” right now is that I’m waiting on a 4-cylinder distributor cap for the Wico magneto I’m modeling, as explained below. Other than that everything is pretty much wrapped and requiring a pretty simple and quick final assembly.

It turns out that I was totally wrong when it came to mounting a 30’s style magneto (the big brands of the time were Eisemann, Wico, Edison, and Bosch) to a Ford B-block 4-cylinder. It’s true that on a lot of farm equipment, tractors and stationary motors they were driven off the flywheel, but in 4-stroke applications they were either stepped down to half speed (for example on John Deere tractors), or in low-stress applications like stationary pumps  the magneto simply allowed to fire on the exhaust stroke. But in racing 4-banger Ford applications the magnetos were invariably driven off the cam drive so that they ran at half speed. This was usually accomplished using some sort of adapter. In the summary composite picture which follows I’ve included a photo of an Eisemann magneto in a lakes modified with the magneto driven by a short quill shaft off an adapter case. A water pump is mounted to the front of the same casing.

In any case this created a problem for me because, as you’ll see below, I had already created a Wico Magnetos decal and applied 2 of them to the painted and finished body. The placement helps balance things out graphically, and besides I wasn’t inclined to risk marring the paint by removing them. So I’ve taken the long way around by changing the magneto mounting position. Since I had reshaped the molded-in AMT starter motor into a Wico-shaped lump this meant cutting out said lump and replacing it with a proper starter motor. Fortunately I was able to accomplish this fairly cleanly and it turned out that one of the countless small-block Ford V8 starter motors from one of the equally countless Revell ’32 Ford kit leftovers in my parts box fit perfectly. The result is in the second panel of the summary picture below.

On the other side of the block I fabricated a quill shaft drive from some mysterious piece I found in a Revell ’30 Ford Tudor Rat Rod kit and various styrene bits. I positioned it on the other side of the oil feed tube in order to preserve that  detail. This is further back than in the Eisemann installation and required a longer quill shaft. It’s all painted and installed and simply waiting for the 4-cylinder distributor cap from Morgan Automotive Detail, which I’ll reshape slightly and glue in place. Then I can wire and plum the motor and stick it in the chassis, followed by final assembly.

The last image in the summary picture below is a view of the undercarriage. The AMT ’29 Ford Model A Roadster kits have a really nicely detailed floor panel. It’s typical of the great job they did on the stock Model A part of the original double kit, paired with the Ala Kart. Frankly, in working on this project I once again have been reminded why, in many ways, I prefer the AMT kit for my hot rods over the recent Revell kit, as nice as the Revell roadster is. Because the AMT kit is essentially a stocker kit the hot rod modelling experience is more like building a 1:1 – big fun in my opinion… In any case, I cut out the floor panels from the stock fender assembly and fabricated some small styrene panels to fill the gaps between the panels and the edges of the body. The result is shown below along with the finished chassis, which is straight out of the box with stock front and rear suspension..



As I said, all the decals and bodywork are completed. The windshield was removed, leaving the stock bracketry and dashboard in place. The interior was also finished, again essentially stock out of the kit. The side panel and seat are finished in a distressed leather effect done by applying multiple thin coats of Testors Acryl paint (the shade is, oddly enough, Leather) and then brushing it in a diagonal cross hatch pattern as each coat dries. Then a light coat of black wash is applied and lightly removed with a piece of tissue to highlight the distressing.

The picture below shows the completed decal application and the completed interior:



That’s it for now. Fingers crossed that the distributor cap gets here this year, LOL!

Thanx for lookin’,
B.

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Posted by Gluecipher on Friday, December 22, 2017 3:07 AM

I can easily see this project inspiring few guys giving whole new level of details when it comes to fourbangers. Me included Yes

So, i have to say that if you do get this kit done this year...what can we waite for in 2018 except some other early rod in similar vein.

 

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, December 23, 2017 3:52 PM

There's one of these on the cover of the latest mag in the form of a Sand Racer, smart! 

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Posted by gbk1 on Tuesday, December 26, 2017 8:15 PM

Thanx guys! Gluecipher, I've got another TROG build in progress, a bit more modern, and perhaps even a 3rd one I'm trying to squeeze in before the NNL. The 3rd one is a 30's style one-man Modified, but it's fairly ambitious and may not make it. I have no Idea what I'll be doing across 2018 except I'm sure it will include some hot rods and drag machinery, but I'd also like to start .doing some more contemporary subjects as well. We'll see...

This is a micro-update, but the distributor cap came today and I was able to finish off the darn Wico magneto. Now to button this baby up and call it a year – my last project of 2017. I’ll probably get ‘er done tomorrow and post a completed model in the next day or two.

In the meantime, thanx to all who followed along and here’s hoping you’re having a happy holiday season and wishing you all the very best for 2018!

Thanx for lookin’,
B.

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Posted by PatrickW on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 3:06 AM

Searching ebay for kits of cars of that era to start to build one of these!

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Posted by gbk1 on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 11:17 AM

PatrickW

Searching ebay for kits of cars of that era to start to build one of these!

 

Glad I could inspire. As a fellow decalomaniac you should have fun find old graphics. In actual historical fact this sort of advertising on cars we reserved primarily for promotional display cars. Racing cars were pretty limioted in their graphics, although permanent painted-on numbers were wuite common, and a sponsot was often acknowledged in the name of the car (such as Gilmore Red Lion Special in the case of my model).

I'll take photographs later today and most likely post straight after that.

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Posted by Tom Louis on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 2:25 PM

This is one heck of a nice looking racecar! Awesome build!

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Posted by Gluecipher on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 2:28 PM

Just readin' a bit of old racers, from Kustomrama, and now i see this racer of yours, blasting its way in Muroc  dry lake , 1931. Who knows maybe there was duel between your ride and Glen Smith.

Just ordered one more Mod Rod,thanks to this threadYes

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Posted by gbk1 on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 3:54 PM

Thank you, Gentlemen! I am indeed flattered that I could get the creative juices flowing!

Here are the final "beauty pics":






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Posted by chucky on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 6:05 PM

and a BEAUTY it is! True to the plan and nicely executed. (I just picked this kit up at my "local" hobby shop. What a wealth of parts in this kit!) Best of luck!

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Posted by Gluecipher on Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:11 AM

Just came across 1920 Hudson super 6 race cars pic, and it had something familiar,being the nice mix of very similar paint tone and red detailing. 

Spent few hrs looking through various Trog pics and old race car pics from that perioid, and i know i just must try to do something in same vein, the best i can. When i figure out how i can make my pics visible here i'll start a thread.

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Posted by gbk1 on Friday, December 29, 2017 10:26 PM

Thanks again to you both! It's always especially satisfying when a project comes out "according to plan" and even more so when it succeeds in making the intended connection

 

Gluecipher

Just came across 1920 Hudson super 6 race cars pic, and it had something familiar,being the nice mix of very similar paint tone and red detailing. 

Spent few hrs looking through various Trog pics and old race car pics from that perioid, and i know i just must try to do something in same vein, the best i can. When i figure out how i can make my pics visible here i'll start a thread.

 

I looked this car up on the web. The funny thing is that "officially" I don't remember it, but there's no way than I hadn't seen it and filed it away in the memory banks - I mean the color, the decal scheme, even the font styles, are dead on. Thanks for mentioning it. Another reminder that we never really forget anything:

I hope you figure out how to post pics. I'd love to see your project!

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 10:19 AM

Hey Bernard Big Smile

I've been having fun watching this great project of yours come together. I really enjoy your WIP progress and your fabulous pics you use to explain how things are making headway.It turned out extremely nice and you'll get a chance to be very proud of it when you go to the show in California.

Been there  twice myself years ago, maybe at least a decade, and it was so much fun.Don't forget to have a burger at IN & OUT Thumbs Up.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by mmthrax on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 11:58 AM

Really cool project.  Turned out very nice.  Great work!Yes

Just keep picking away at it...

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Posted by gbk1 on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 11:05 PM

Thanks again, guys.

Dave, it's always nice to know you're watching. Our paths crossed early on in my return to car modeling and you continue to be an inspiration. I need to make time to attend the Portland model car show I used to go to, if just so we came meet up again... Do you still go?

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Thursday, January 04, 2018 11:24 AM

gbk1

Thanks again, guys.

Dave, it's always nice to know you're watching. Our paths crossed early on in my return to car modeling and you continue to be an inspiration. I need to make time to attend the Portland model car show I used to go to, if just so we came meet up again... Do you still go?

 

Bernard my friend.

I don't normally go anymore, but If you came down I would gladly meet with you at the  event and maybe we could do lunch. also.

Let me know what you think as there are some local shows about to take place.

 

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by gbk1 on Monday, February 05, 2018 1:52 PM

Completely unexpected but deeply appreciated...

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Posted by Gluecipher on Monday, February 05, 2018 1:54 PM

gbk1

Completely unexpected by deeply appreciated...

On my behalf i can say that was more like to be expected Yes

With so pure build its a must.

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Posted by chucky on Monday, February 05, 2018 3:06 PM

Congratulations, Bernard! It certainly has the look. Star

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Monday, February 05, 2018 11:04 PM
Well done Bernard !! Just pop it in the kiddies sand box for a realistic Diorama !! LOL
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Posted by maniacalmodeler on Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:17 PM

I enjoyed the WIP! Great build. Congratulations!

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