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1929 Ford Track Roadster Paint Fade - WIP; Finished - outdoor pics

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1929 Ford Track Roadster Paint Fade - WIP; Finished - outdoor pics
Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:15 AM

I was reading Tim Boyd's article on faded paint techniques and thought about doing a track roadster like his with faded flames. Then I thought - why not do the entire body as a faded paint scheme!  So I am going to give it a try and granted, this will be an experiment. I don't know how it will turn out as I haven't done this before but here's the plan. Since there are undersides to all these parts I am first going to do the separate pieces (after primer and a flate white base) with each of the colors I am going to use. Gold for the nose, yellow for the hood, orange for the bucket and red for the bed. I will attempt to do the fender unit in all four colors. Then I will do all the sub-assemblies and glue the main pieces together with some white glue. Then I will again do some streaks at each junction to affect the fade and blend the colors together. Here are the separate pieces and the paints I will use. I may drop the Tamiya orange and just go to the Fiery Orange so I will have only 4 colors.

It's going to rain tomorrow, so I may only get the primer done today but look forward to painting the rest maybe Thursday or Friday.  Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by maniacalmodeler on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:26 AM

This looks very interesting! I'll be watching!

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Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 4:17 PM

Thanks, MM!  I'm sure you'll be as suprprised as I will when I get the final paint on!

So I have the primer on and base coat. I have base-coated everything in gold. The bottom of the bed and bottom of the fender unit are in silver and I didn't tape anything off and don't intend to as I finish the color coats. I have divided the parts into their various colors so that I can get the undersides of pieces paintedm and even coats on top sides. the nose piece is in gold, then the hood pieces in camel yellow, cab pieces will be fiery orange and bed pieces in revving red. The fender unit will be all three colors. Once I have these piece painted and dry then I'll put the sub-assemblies together with white glue and add some coats of each color to blend. I'll probably need more colors to pull this off so I'll have to re-assess once I have everything glued together with white glue.  Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by SLUSHER on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:20 AM

i will be watching this one as l do all your build. You alway get back started fast.....Slusher

IT TAKES A LIVING SAVIOR TO SAVE A DYING WORLD....

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:09 AM

Thanks, Slusher!  I got started quick while I had the idea - if I wait to long I'll forget!

Managed to get color on before the rain. Next, I'll mock up the cab, hood, nose and bed on the fender unit with some white glue and tape and blend those pieces in.  I like how the fender unit came out and everything seems to go together OK. The running boards will be black.  Maybe not a real paint fade but a 4 tone paint job without tape!  Thanks for looking!Cool

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:03 PM

The rain held off long enough for me to get this done.  Still have to blend in the doors and windshield but i can do that with the cab as a separate piece as it is all one color. This was a rather precarious mock-up as I only used tape on the hood and the rest is just sittlng on the fender unit.  I like how it turned out - kinda reminds me of a Sunburst Fender guitar!  I also will add a couple of coats of clear once this is dry and I have added the doors, windshield and lower firewall section to the cab. Thanks for looking and thanks Tim Boyd for the article! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:11 PM

Well, I got the doors and windshield blended in and none too soon as the temperature dropped from 78 to 48 in a matter of hours and the rain started!  So now I'll just have to do some detailing. I am also trying to figure out if an 8 cylinder will go in this narrow hood. I guess I could use the one from the 32 Ford Sedan or I also have the Ala Kart repop that has a small engine in it. Does anyone have any other ideas?

The hood doesn't fit very well and I know I still have to add hinges and supports. Seems like I may have to notch the nose a little more to set it back. Anyone dealt with this issue?  Thanks for looking and thanks in advance for any suggestions! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by funman1712 on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:45 PM

Heh Model...that certainly turned out well!!!!  

You might thing about the 289 Ford engine in the John Buttera series of Revell Street Rod kits (e.g. '26T sedan, '27T Touring).   They should be readily available by ebay.com if you can't find them locally.  

Best of luck with your project and glad your paint fade turned out so well....TIM

"Funman1712" is the board name for Scale Auto contributor Tim Boyd. 

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Posted by SLUSHER on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:48 PM

JR, great looking paint. .................Slusher

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Posted by JM485 on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:09 PM

Paint fade came out great Jr!  I have to try this with one of my builds, it just looks awesome.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:00 PM

Thanks, Tim, Slusher and JM!  I appreciate your comments!  Thanks, Tim, for the recommendations! My dilemma is always buying a kit on e-bay and then just using the engine!  If I buy a classic kit I'll want to build it and then what am I going to do for an engine? It's a Catch - 22!   Maybe i'll pull the all-chrome 283 out of the Revell Competition Engines Parts Pak and see if that will fit!  Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by 70CudaTJ on Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:11 AM

Great fade JR. I'm watching this.............

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:43 AM

Thanks, TJ, I'm glad you like it! Its been raining since yesterday afternoon so I can't paint much other than some primer.  I slept on the engine issue and after thinking about it there are a lot of moving parts on this roadster if I get them all to work. Poseable steering, multiple hood hinges, opening doors and tailgate.  I chose this kit to do the paint fade on because I have had it a few years and bought it for about $10. So if the paint fade had not worked well it wasn't a favorite kit and I could have just put it back in the box for another day or another builder.

The hood issue I have is caused by the fact athat the cab is weakened with opening doors and tilts back a bit in a mock-up.  I'll have to hope that the floor board plus glue will stiffen it up enough to have the proper hood length and opening doors.  I don't want the hood gap to get bigger or the hood to fall in every time I open a door!  The floor also has an opening for the gear shift and hand brake that attaches to the transmission and the floorboard glues to the frame with the fender unit between the frame and the bottom of the cab.

With all these complications, perhaps, it would be better to use the kit engine rather than complicate things further with different engine mounts, new floor shifter, etc. If I can get everything working with this fade paint job it should build into a nice box stock!  So that is what I am going to attempt! I may be able to paint the engine and other parts this afternoon as it is suppose to clear up and be a nice day!  Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by gbeaird on Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:55 AM

Hmm, 78-48 deg. F drop.  You must live close to me.  We had similar temp drops yesterday.  This morning, in the rain, we were looking at ~48 Deg.  Then the rain blew out, and the sky cleared, and the temp _dropped_ to 40!  The low for today is forecast to be 46, so I guess they'll be adjusting that today.  :-)

Nice work in spite of the weather.  I remember doing something like this to a car I built into a sort of 'stock car', or at least my rendition of one by a kid in the late 60's.  Took a couple of spray cans, shot the body red, then held an orange and then yellow can of spray paint at an angle and shot the leading edges of the roof and front end.  It turned out great.  I think that car eventually fell victim of an engine failure >cough<firecracker>cough<, but I may have kept it since I thought the paint was so nice.  

Gene Beaird,

Pearland, Texas

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:28 PM

Gene, I am not too far from you - about 50 miles across Houston northeast in Spring, Texas! 

Well today I got some clear on a lot of parts and painted some others after the rain stopped this morning and it cleared up. Unfortunately, the cab/windshield/firewall assembly had a very bad reaction to the clear. Then I remembered that I touched up a couple of rough spots that I had sanded out early this morning. Since I didn't apply the clear at the same time as the paint touch-up but a few hours later I don't think it had enough time to gas out which may have caused the bad reaction so I put it in the brake fluid pool.

I was looking around in the closet for something else when i noticed that a Gooodguys 29 Ford Pickup kit had a similar grill shell to this Rat Rod kit. Sure enough - its another repop of the same kit!  So I quck took the cab/windshield/firewall out of it and now I'm wll on my way to back in business without waiting for the brake fluid. Once the paint has come off I'll put it back in this Goodguys kit. I'm just glad it was the cab that was affected as none of the other pieces had that reaction and the cab is all one color - Fiery Orange. I'll get color on the cab tomorrow along with clear. In the meantime, I'll work on the engine and chassis. Thanks for looking! Cool

Don't know why I am getting a URL in the IMG slot. Looks like Photbucket changed something again!

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, April 12, 2013 5:39 PM

Painted the new bucket today and blended in the doors. Also assembled the engine. Tomorrow I rub out a few pieces and see if I can get the chassis together.  Thanks for looking! Cool

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If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by maniacalmodeler on Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:56 AM

The paint turned out great! I'm glad your setback didn't set you too far back. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished result.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:24 PM

Thanks, MM! It wasn't a big set back just some additional work I could have avoided if I had thought about it. Anyway, not much done today as other things got in the way. I blended in the top hood pieces as they were not the same color so I handy tacked the top of the hood to the cowl and gave them another shot. I am also working on the poseable steering which is working. So now I'll put the rear suspension together then mount the engine in the frame and get it all hooked up!  Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by lazyman on Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:48 PM

   Looks great so far,,,,,,

Lazyman, AKA Thread Killer

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:38 PM

Thanks, Lazyman!  I am moving very slowly due to this cold I have but did manage to mount the engine, fender unit to the frame and front working suspension. Here's a couple mock-up pics;

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by High octane on Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:25 PM

Lookin' real good so far and I just sold one of those kits last night at the NNL.

High octane

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Monday, April 15, 2013 10:22 AM

Hi JR, great build as always! First attempt at paint fade and comes out like you've been doing this for years...

When was Tim's article on paint fade published? - I can't find a reference to it on the website, although I also subscribe this year. Thanks, Csaba

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Posted by lazyman on Monday, April 15, 2013 11:05 AM

Looks great,That front end can be a bit finniky,huh. I've used a couple on other projects as well as the 29.They took some practice for me to get them right,and function.Nice choice stickin' with the 4banger too.

Lazyman, AKA Thread Killer

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, April 15, 2013 2:55 PM

Thanks, High Octane, Csaba and Lazyman! I appreciate your comments!  Csaba, Tim Boyd's articles on paint fade are in the latest issue, April 2013 and references a more basic article in August 2011.

Yes the front end is finnicky as there are 5 joints that have to be melted or "flared" according to the instructions.  I took an old X-ACTO blade and heated it with my lighter in order to melt the plastic on the end of the pin and still let the mating piece move. I haven't done that in a while but it worked great! Also trapping the doors in the hinges while gluing in one hinge is also a test in patience. I've got one door done and now need to complete the other door, tailgate and hood hinges (3). Here's the completed chassis, one door  and one pic fron yesterday that I didn't get posted:

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by smellyfatdude on Monday, April 15, 2013 6:11 PM

Here I was wondering why you hadn't started something after the Dart, and it turns out you're half way through another project! Guess I should browse the whole forum, more often. Interesting paint technique, I must say. Looks like you mastered it the first time out! Thumbs Up

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, April 15, 2013 6:55 PM

I'm wondering tha same thing about you SFD!  Where's your project - I know you got to be building something!  You never know where I might turn up -  this was just a wild idea and all of a sudden I'm building! One of these days I'm going to get to the Beach Bunny Catchin' Rays but I guess I'll have to put that in the"other" section!  Smile, Wink & Grin 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by smellyfatdude on Monday, April 15, 2013 7:04 PM

Me? Well. I'm still leisurly working on the Monte. I posted a couple of pics yesterday. Hopefully, it'll be done before my two weeks of vacation are! Also ordered some more foil and other supplies today, so I might get cracking on the ' 69 Ambassador I posted in Builders Corner, after that.

If I'm not building something, I'm staring at all the pieces of a kit, thinking about working on it! Laugh

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                                                                                                         sfd Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by SLUSHER on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:44 AM

Nice progress Jr, you making fast progress......Slusher

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Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:46 PM

Thanks, SFD and Slusher!  SFD, I saw your Monte and posted a comment - its looking good!  I'll have more pics tomorrow of this one as I have been working on some foil and hinges and other nits that I haven't photographed yet so maybe this thing will start building up tomorrow!  Thanks for looking! Cool

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:13 AM

Here's and update!  I am in the process of completing all the small pieces and I decided to see if I could mock up  everything. I am also adding brake,clutch and gas pedals which are curiously absent, especially this being a roadster with open cockpit. I have also hinged the tailgate and hope to add drop chains later.

As you might see in the above pic and some of the previous ones in this thread the wheel height bothered me in the rear. I thought it might give it a little rake so I was going to leave it but went ahead and mocked it up.  This is too much rake for me so I am in the process of shortening and compressing the rear spring which means I have torn off the frame and rear suspension so I hope I can get it back together with the proper ride level. Then I can move on to securing the cab and bed on the fender unit. Last is hinging the hood and getting all the external hardware and decals on. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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