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Henry J WIP - FINALLY DONE - Posted for Dawsonski.

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Henry J WIP - FINALLY DONE - Posted for Dawsonski.
Posted by Treehugger Dave on Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:49 PM

Haven't shared any WIP here in quite a while, so thought this would be fun Cool.

This is kinda a difficult kit to begin with the way the pieces fit, and the plastic is pretty brittle, at least on my kit. I decided to take it back to stock appearing as much as I could.  No bumpers or other parts available, but I discovered that a Lindberg '53 Ford kit could supply alot of the parts I needed to modify it. A '67 Corvette donor kit would supply the frame, and a '33 Willys kit would supply the SOHC engine/trans. I wanted to build the body back to stock as I really like the looks of them in stock trim, especially the rear wheel well opening, which was a little bit of a fun challange, to not only get the right shape, but same from side to side.

The doors are already opened, so that was nice. I added my own hinges, and then hinged the hood, but with a twist - to the front. A little street-rod look if it was real, and you pulled into a gas station to check the oil. Course, the sound of the "rumpy" motor might just give it away first.

Anyhow, here's the first pics of a fun project.

 

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Draggon on Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:53 PM

Good luck! Every time I've pulled this one out over the last 30 years it has promptly gone right back in the box! Funny seeing it molded in blue, mine is a sort of ugly maroon.

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:12 PM

Draggon

Good luck! Every time I've pulled this one out over the last 30 years it has promptly gone right back in the box! Funny seeing it molded in blue, mine is a sort of ugly maroon.

LaughLaugh

Over the years I've heard a lot of negative stuff about this kit, so I figured I had my work cut out for me. The plastic doesn't seem to like glue very much especially super-glue and Zap-It. In this pic you can see by the arrow where I had to re-do the seam where the tilt front end was glued to the body. I ended up fixing these seamd 2 or 3 times before I figured out how to do it right.  The other arrow indicated how poorly the body jam for the door was molded. I had to add extra plastic and work it to shape. Took time, but it worked. I like challanging projects, so this was fun to dive into.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Draggon on Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:20 PM

Well, Dave, if anyone can make something of this kit, it will be you! I will be watching and taking notes because eventually mine will get built. Thats a funny thing about the plastic not liking glue, I have had the same problem with other Revell "Saints" kits. Whatcha got planned for the ride height and the color?

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:49 PM

Draggon

Well, Dave, if anyone can make something of this kit, it will be you! I will be watching and taking notes because eventually mine will get built. Thats a funny thing about the plastic not liking glue, I have had the same problem with other Revell "Saints" kits. Whatcha got planned for the ride height and the color?

Thanks - We'll see - LOL

This build will be a bit different fot me, but lately I've kinda gotten used ta different.

It'll sit stock height, have hubcaps and whites, and a two toned stock-type paint job. Most likely tan with chocklate <( ??? - Have to look up the spelling - LOL)matellic roof and trunk, with a third complimentary cream color on the "connie" kit. I'll use urethanes. The primer acts like a barrier coat to all the body work. Lacquers will sometimes penetrate the regular lacquer-type primers, and you'll end up with a lot of "Ghosting", or sometimes called "Halo's" around the bodywork Dead.

 I wanna make 'er look like she just rolled off the assembly line. It'll just have a "Big" surprise under the hood, along with the '67 corvette chassis.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Draggon on Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:12 PM

Sounds good to me! 

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Posted by Tony Ds garage on Sunday, November 13, 2011 12:51 AM

starting this kit in like a month plan on maken the whole chasy from sratch.should be fun im only 14 i might have to come here 4 help

 

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Posted by Lowlife ! on Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:50 AM

Thats a cool idea, i like the ideas you have for this....  There a funny little shape car, not too many in the UK i fact im not sure what a standard one looks like ! !  Should look great, good luck with this little sleeper, maybe for your next kit you could find something standard and gasser it with all those parts your not using ..... ? ..........Lowlife ! ! 

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Posted by surfnut on Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:31 AM

You are off to a great start for such a tough kit. Good idea & it is looking cool.  The kit is junk, but I have seen some great builds of it.  I have one in the collection,as well.

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Posted by Space Cowboy on Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:30 AM

Hey you are the man for the job. Great start to a pain build.........

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Sunday, November 13, 2011 12:46 PM

In this next set of pics I've started to add plastic to make it the stock version I spoke of earlier. The rear wheel well openings were cut out for the drag version, and there are no front or rear gravel pans to go between the body and the bumper, so you'll see that I'm adding plastic and filler for those in the following pics.

Thanks for looking.

Dave

Here's the rear gravel pan has been added on, and some filler added. Also, you can see that the rear wheel well on this side has been filled and shaped.

Here the front gravel pan has been added, and some filler applied for the backside of the bumper shape.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by 01jeepxj on Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:41 PM

A lot of work to bring this guy back to stock BUT you are the man for it! I remember a guy in our neighborhood had a Henry J. My bud & I thought this was a cool car-just begging for a V8 (of course).

Great work so far.

I have read on another post that the builder was having a hard time getting glue to work on his kit. Anyone have any ideas why some plastics reject glues? 

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:30 PM

Thought if I posted some pics of the "real thing", maybe people would know a bit more about where I'm headed on this. To me with a few extra's they were kind of an elegant looking looking little car, especially now after some years have past, and we see them much differently.

Mine will have the visor, and the "continental kit" like in the last pic.

This is the pattern I'll paint mine two-tone, but not the same colors.

Here's the continental kit.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by High octane on Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:05 PM

While I like my Henry J's in gasser form, it looks like you've got a great start on that project of yours and I'll be sure to watch your progress.

High octane

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Monday, November 14, 2011 5:19 PM

Here's the front gravel pan done, and I've also added the narrowed radiator support / hood latch cross brace from the '53 ford. Also there's a rounded clearance area on the bottom of the support brace, in the middle, for the top of the grill bar that comes in at final assembly.

And here's the rear gravel pan, roughed in with a little primer on it.

And here's the hood pretty much done, with the cut-out filled in, and the hood lookin' pretty stock.

And lastly for now, the back side of the hood with the double acting hood hinge, to make the hood open to the front and pivot down and forward.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by oldscalemodeler on Monday, November 14, 2011 5:31 PM

You know, Dave, to round out your Henrys you should build one of these as an early NASCAR. That would look really sharp next to the gasser and stock versions. Then maybe you could do one rally style. After that go back to the roots and do an altered. Just some thoughts. With the quality of your work I know you could pull off an assortment like that.

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Posted by del austin on Monday, November 14, 2011 6:07 PM

Very cool project. Feel free to make a mold when the "stock" body is done and offer themin resin for those of us without your skills! My second cousin had a Henry J way back when and I'd love to make a model of it someday.

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:36 PM

Lindberg's '53 Ford kit supplied a lot of parts for this build including the bumpers. They had to be narrowed a bit, but provided a nice base for something that looks close to stock.

I had to cut sections out of each side at a point that wouldn't be noticed. I chose next to the bumperets, and they turned out pretty good.

Here's some progress pics - Thanks for looking.

Both done.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:46 PM

While I was finishing up the stock gravel pans, I started cutting and fitting the '67 'Vette chassis to the bottom side. The back portion of the chassis was cut off, and I looked through my scrap parts and found a partial chassis with a fuel tank on it that fit perfect with the exhaust and rear suspention pieces - COOL Cool.

So here's some pics of the beginning chassis conversion.

Here is the rear piece of the chassis added on and finished.

And here's the completed chassis sitting in the body, and the front suspention from the parts box, modified and mocked up on the chassis, along with checking the engine fit in the chassis, and clearance with the suspention.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by surfnut on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:44 AM

Looking real good. Nice splice job on the bumpers.

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:49 PM

del austin

 Feel free to make a mold when the "stock" body is done and offer themin resin for those of us without your skills!

Del - Thanks for the vote of confidence Cool.

I'm pretty much like everyone else here. I buy resin bodies, but haven't a clue how to produce one, or for that matter have the skills. Glad there are people out there who do.

All the best - Dave

 

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:42 PM

So here's the exhaust mocked up in place, along with the drive shaft being shortened. Front suspension is painted, and the rear-end and shortened springs will be next, along with the engine being installed.

Here's a few pics of the progress Smile.

Drive shaft laid in to check how much to shorten.

Drive shaft shortened, engine amd rear end installed.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:01 PM

Next is the leaf springs that need to be shortened. The first pic is the mock-up to see how much to remove.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by SLUSHER on Friday, November 18, 2011 1:46 AM

Wow your work on this is amazing. I have not read anything pos about this kit but your making a sweet build out of it. Great work so far..Slusher..Thumbs Up

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Friday, November 18, 2011 12:57 PM

Here is the finished chassis waiting for the floor pan.

Here's the floor pan sitting in place mocked up for fit.

The rear portion of the floor pan had to be removed so I could install a rear seat and have clearance for the tires. The armrests I built out of sheet styrene to provide that clearance, and make it look somewhat stock. The front and rear seats I used are from the '53 Ford kit also. They had to be narrowed in two places. One of the pics of the front seat has arrows to indicate where. The painting on the seat has started, but not finished yet.

Here's the floor pan in place. I made it to nest into the chassis, to position the chassis location, and have the correct height front to rear for the right stance, The floor pan also was made to locate into the body for easy location and several mock ups of engine location and clearance, as well as rear door pane locations and fit before assembly. I could take it apart as many times as I wanted and everything goes right back into place, like building a piece of tooling with locking and locating features.

Here's the front seat that was narrowed, and the arrows indicate the seams that still show on the inside, where the narrowing occured.

Lastly for now, here's a pic of the parts all together, as well as door panels, front inner fender wells, radiator cross frame support, the radiator, dash and windshield visor that was narrowed - All coming soon - LOL.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Friday, November 18, 2011 10:24 PM

SLUSHER

Wow your work on this is amazing. I have not read anything pos about this kit but your making a sweet build out of it. Great work so far..Slusher..Thumbs Up

Thanks so much Big Smile.

Challanging, but a lot of fun. Still a lot more to do, but I think the toughest parts are behind me.

Thanks again - Dave

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by LO51 MERC on Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:28 PM

If I haven't commented about this beauty, I must be losing my mind. Dave, this is looking to be a very sweet and skilled build. I can't wait to see it as a roller!    Gary

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Posted by Draggon on Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:18 PM

Dave, Dave, Dave...........another one hit out of the ballpark. You need to leave that cold, wet Oregon, move to the Bay Area, and share your skills with me. I'd love to learn your chroming technique. And maybe we could visit some slots!

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:18 PM

Draggon

Dave, Dave, Dave...........another one hit out of the ballpark. You need to leave that cold, wet Oregon, move to the Bay Area, and share your skills with me. I'd love to learn your chroming technique. And maybe we could visit some slots!

 LO51 MERC replied on Sat, Nov 19 2011 09:28 PM Reply More

If I haven't commented about this beauty, I must be losing my mind. Dave, this is looking to be a very sweet and skilled build. I can't wait to see it as a roller! Gary

Thans so much guysThumbs Up.

There are so many good builders on this forum, and such good attitudes, that it allows me and many others the privilidge and opportunity to learn so much more by watching all the great builders here. We all have so many skills here to inspire each other to do better, and encourage new builders to stay and learn.

I like to share, but in the end, I come here to be inspired and learn just like everyone else. I have been learning new skills and techniques all my life, watching others and adding in a bit of my own style, but at the end of the day, what I do is the result of so many different abilitiesand techniques of others impacting how I love to build.

Gary:  Thanks - It'll be rollin' soon Big Smile

Draggon:  Smile, Wink & Grin[swg ] I grew up in SoCal. I had a wonderful time there, but I do love my tree's now - LOL The chroming I talked about a few years ago, I may share here someday in a video.

Slots: Yea,  those were the good ol' days Cool, but this model car stuff is just the "BOMB". I LOVE IT!!!

Thanks again guys

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:01 PM

Got the floor pan pretty much done and have moved on to the hood. Made the hinge first, then the little brackets where the hinge pivots at the ends. It also pivots where it's attached at the hood. Got the hinge glued to the hood and some filler added. I finished up the hood, and it now pivots forward. Just a little "Twist to make the build interesting. Besides, I like hoods that pivot like this Thumbs Up.

 

Here's the hood hinge pretty much done, except for final detail finishing.

Here's one of the two brackets, made from some thick sheet styrene. There's a hole drilled into each one where the ends of the hinge will locate and pivot. They get glued to the bottom side of the fenders, as you'll see in the next pics.

Here the arrow indicates the location of the pivot bracket.

And lastly, here's the hood in place, and open to show all the features.

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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