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1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 440+6

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  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 440+6
Posted by mrmike on Saturday, July 18, 2020 2:32 PM

I'm bored and I'm angry and I feel like I should start a new project before I go totally bonkers with the way the world has been turning!  This 'Cuda kit had two shaker hoods and scoops and two sets of leaf springs so a call went out to Revell for replacement parts since they screwed up the kit.  I got everything I needed from Revell except for the incorrect hood.  They sent me another shaker hood and scoop.  Then everything went bad for Revell as they were sold to a German investment group and I had no recourse, but to build this 'Cuda with a hood I didn't want.

Then, my friend Paul stepped forward and said he had the same kit.  He used the Hemi engine for another project and he offered me the dual scoop hood since this was basically a parts kit now.  I robbed his kit of the hood and said thank you very much and he felt a little disappointed that I didn't take anymore from it.  Sorry Paul, all I wanted was the dual scoop hood!  Again, thank you very much for the hood!     

I'm starting this '70 Plymouth 'Cuda with a 440+6 cobbled together from a left over 440 CID from the Revell '69 Dart 340 I made with a 6 barrel carb and intake manifold from the AMT '70 Super Bee from years ago.  My paint will be Testors Hemi Orange aka Tor-red with a black interior.  Magnum 500 wheels from the Revell '70 Charger R/T kit with AMT White Lettered pad printed tires.

More 'Cuda to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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  • From: East Bethel, Mn
Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, July 18, 2020 2:52 PM

Looking forward to it. 

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Posted by amt68 on Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:47 PM

Which clearcoat brand do you plan on using mrmike? I was just at my local HobbyLobby and see those model master paints which I understand will be phased out but currently still available. I haven't used the model master lacquers yet and was considering a couple of the colors for some of my builds.

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:57 AM

Thanks Lee and amt68!

amt68

Which clearcoat brand do you plan on using mrmike? I was just at my local HobbyLobby and see those model master paints which I understand will be phased out but currently still available. I haven't used the model master lacquers yet and was considering a couple of the colors for some of my builds.

I have a tendency to use a brand clearcoat with the same brand paint.  This 'Cuda will be painted with Model Master Hemi Orange, so my clearcoat will be Model Master Ultra Gloss Clear.  I avoid issues later if I use the same brand paint and clear.

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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    November 2003
  • From: East Bethel, Mn
Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:23 AM

Good suggestion Mike, its always a good idea to use the same brands of paint. The only exception I make to that is primer. I use Duplicolor primer/filler.

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Posted by amt68 on Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:05 AM

Thanks mrmike for the reply. Not mixing brands of clearcoat may help to explain some issues I've had using Testors Glosscoat over Tamiya paints. When I've had to mask off areas of the body (using quality model tape) I've actually lifted the clear off upon removing the tape. Though the lifting off can occur with the same brand of paint and clear (Testors) it has been a more common occurrence when I've mixed brands. 

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  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
Posted by mrmike on Monday, July 20, 2020 3:32 PM

I have been working on the 'Cuda today.  I got the engine painted with Mopar Street Hemi Orange Engine Enamel and I need to drill out the heads for plug wires.  The engine will be headed to the dehumidifier shortly for the next 8 hours.    I've been told that I am a brave man for drilling into painted plastic.  Thank you!  Everything else got a coat of Tamiya Fine Surface Primer.  I found more mold lines along the tops of the rear fenders.  I'll take care of those shortly.

More 'Cuda to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

Classic Plastic Model Club

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    August 2005
  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
Posted by mrmike on Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:39 AM

I started working on the 440+6 engine yesterday.  I added the valve covers, carbs and fan belt assembly.  The alternator and bracketry and air cleaner are being dechromed right now.  I have one MAD Mopar distributor left and I'll use it on this engine.  I am finding out about the shortcomings of using parts from various sources, but I am working through it. 

More 'Cuda to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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  • From: sunny Sydney, Australia
Posted by nottheband on Friday, July 24, 2020 2:18 AM

G'day mrmike.  I've been considering buying this Revell Cuda kit, what is your opinion of it so far?  I see that your kit had some foul up with the parts content, but otherwise, how is it?  The flares on the rear wheels look a bit extended in the photo, is that right?  Thanx in advance for your advice, and best of luck with the build, I'll be following along.  Cheers.

Steve

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  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
Posted by mrmike on Friday, July 24, 2020 7:08 AM

Hi Steve!  I happen to like this kit and it is the second kit I have had since it was introduced.  I do question why the shifter is not chrome plated, but on a regular parts sprue,  The body is a little off on the fender flares and they stick out a little more than they should and the front fender thickness is a little higher than it should be.  Mold lines are not that excessive and they should be taken care of before primer and paint.  If you are building stock, use the custom suspension to give the model a more realistic ride height.  If you want to use a Magnum 500 wheel like I do, use the wheels from the Revell '70 Charger R/T since they have the exact same mounting system.  If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!    

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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  • From: East Bethel, Mn
Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, July 25, 2020 10:02 AM

Looking good. 

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, July 25, 2020 12:54 PM

Looking good, MrMike! I really like this kit. I've built three and have 2 more left to build. Always a pleasure building this kit. Thumbs UpCool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by nottheband on Monday, July 27, 2020 1:05 AM

mrmike

Hi Steve!  I happen to like this kit and it is the second kit I have had since it was introduced.  I do question why the shifter is not chrome plated, but on a regular parts sprue,  The body is a little off on the fender flares and they stick out a little more than they should and the front fender thickness is a little higher than it should be.  Mold lines are not that excessive and they should be taken care of before primer and paint.  If you are building stock, use the custom suspension to give the model a more realistic ride height.  If you want to use a Magnum 500 wheel like I do, use the wheels from the Revell '70 Charger R/T since they have the exact same mounting system.  If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!    

 

G'day mrmike, and thanx for your opinion, comments, and tips.  I'll be chasing one of these kits now, building mainly stock (with custom suspension), and maybe the steel wheels and hubcaps from Revell's 68 Charger.  Hopefully they'll mount the same.  This is a great hobby.  Cheers.

Steve

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  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
Posted by mrmike on Monday, July 27, 2020 7:09 AM

Steve, I afraid that the steel wheels and the wheel backs from the '68 Charger mount differently compared to the setup in the '70 'Cuda kit.  They can be mounted, but they won't roll if you glue them on.   

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

Classic Plastic Model Club

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    August 2005
  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
Posted by mrmike on Monday, July 27, 2020 10:04 AM

Paint was flyin' this morning!  Model Master Hemi Orange aka Tor-red!  You can also see the metallic content in this paint.  Looks pretty good!

More 'Cuda to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

Classic Plastic Model Club

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Posted by charger74 on Monday, July 27, 2020 10:20 PM

Its going to look very nice

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Posted by nottheband on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:03 AM

mrmike

Steve, I afraid that the steel wheels and the wheel backs from the '68 Charger mount differently compared to the setup in the '70 'Cuda kit.  They can be mounted, but they won't roll if you glue them on.   

 

Thanx, mrmike, noted, but I'm not fussed about needing rolling wheels,  Cheers

Steve

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Posted by mrmike on Friday, July 31, 2020 11:23 AM

nottheband
 
mrmike

Steve, I afraid that the steel wheels and the wheel backs from the '68 Charger mount differently compared to the setup in the '70 'Cuda kit.  They can be mounted, but they won't roll if you glue them on.  

 

Thanx, mrmike, noted, but I'm not fussed about needing rolling wheels,  Cheers

Steve 

In my Model Club, we have a saying, "If it rolls, it'll hit the floor!"

I finally found my decals!  I kept avoiding a rolled up plastic bag since I thought it had tires in it.  I opened the bag and there were my decals that I had set aside long ago.  Now I can decal the body!

More 'Cuda to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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KWT
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Posted by KWT on Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:09 PM

Looking good Mike!

Time well wasted, is not time wasted - John Lennon

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:23 PM

Thanks, Jeremy!

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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    August 2005
  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
Posted by mrmike on Monday, August 3, 2020 9:30 AM

I added a couple of decals for the engine size to the hood.  I found a 6-barrel carb setup and used that instead since it is much more detailed.  I painted the air cleaner and added the decal to it.  I broke the decal as I tried to position it on the air cleaner.

More 'Cuda to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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    November 2003
  • From: East Bethel, Mn
Posted by midnightprowler on Monday, August 3, 2020 4:50 PM

Sweet! 

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Posted by KWT on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:53 PM

Oh that is looking good! and I like that setup.

Where did you run across them?

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Posted by mrmike on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 8:14 PM

I think the +6 Barrel Carbs came from the '71 Duster 340 kit.  Not 100% sure though, but they do look far better than the carbs that I had on there before.  Plus, I added the plug boots to the MAD Resin distributor, installed the distributor and wired the engine.

More 'Cuda to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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  • From: Montreal, Canada
Posted by charger74 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 6:23 AM
Very nice engine
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Posted by mrmike on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:33 PM

Thanks charger74!

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

Classic Plastic Model Club

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: East Bethel, Mn
Posted by midnightprowler on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:28 PM

Well done. 

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Posted by mrmike on Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:58 AM

Thanks Lee!  Now, to do everything else! Big Smile

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

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