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1970 AAR Cuda WIP - Finished! Outdoor Pics!

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1970 AAR Cuda WIP - Finished! Outdoor Pics!
Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:07 AM

Well, I popped for this new Revell offering from Model Roundup since I couldn't find it on the shelves. Looking at the box which is twice the size of a normal kit box I understand. Maybe they have more shelf space in Germany. Its much the same as the previous Revell offering with the exception of the singe scoop hood, 340 engine and much more detailed and finely printed decal sheet. Lots of different languages in the colorful onstruction booklet.  After my experience with the 72 Chevelle this build will be a welcome relief.

I've built three 1970 'Cudas two Revell hardtops, one with a Hemi and Plum Crazy paint, and one Mopar B5 Surf Blue with a 440. I've also built the convertible, an older offering. The two hardtops are !st place winners. I don't think I even entered the convertible as the flakes in the purple are too big. I don't think it was Plum Crazy but I don't remember. 

So I am going to build another one this time the AAR version. Body is in pretty good shape except for this nasty little mold line on the left side of the roof line. I have a new can of sublime green so that will be the color. Probably a black interior.  Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:45 PM

Looking forward to this. One thing Revell messed up on, front and rear tires on a AAR Cuda are different sizes. Revell made them the same in the kit. A very noticeable mistake on their part.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:22 PM

...T/A had different rear springs, I would assume the AAR did too.....to give the car a ‘rake’

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Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:13 PM

Thanks Prowler and Daytona! I appreciate your comments!

The rear springs in the kit are the same as in the HEMI Cuda and no blocks in the kit. Maybe I can use some blocks from another kit or scratch them if I need to raise it. From what I have seen in a few pictures doesn't look like much of a rake to me.

I do have a set of Tampo printed Goodyear tires, F60s for the front and L60s for the rear. Both fit the wheel in the kit so I think they will work. First, I have to get everything painted. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 11:22 PM

...been a long while, seems like the springs had an extra leaf on the Trans Am cars (had one repaired on a T/A)......the rake was subtle, inch or so, exhaust needed more room.....tires were E60 and G60 I think.....cool cars, anxious to see it finished

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Posted by Bainford on Thursday, May 28, 2020 10:28 AM

Interesting build, Jr. I've been curious about this kit, though haven't picked one up yet. I will be kit bashing one with the MPC '74 Cuda. I'll be watching to see how this thing goes together.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, May 28, 2020 7:10 PM

Thanks, Daytona and Trevor! I appreicate your comments! 

I have a question for all the Master Model Builder Gurus out there (really, anyone can weigh in). The kit indicates the the hood and front fender tops should be painted Black Silk Matt. Converting that into regular English I think it is Semi-gloss black. Phots seem to indicate the same. 

I painted the underside of the hood Semi-gloss Black. That looks OK.  Then I added a cost of clear lacquer. That made the hood glisten a bit and the surface looks irregular like it needs to be rubbed out. So I followed that with a coat of Dullcoat and it brought back the finish but a bit duller than the original Semi-gloss black. 

The reason I want a clear or dull coat is too help protect the paint when taping it off for the Sublime Green. After years of model building, I find that the extra layer of clear or dullcote helps to protect the edges from peeling paint. Pulling off paint with tape is a disaster. It also helps when I rub out the Sublime green at the edges. I have always also painted the darker color first and I don't want to paint over the shiny sublime green with black as that usually ends in disaster. 

So here's the question. How would you paint the black on the hood and front fenders? Your comments are appreciated! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mrmike on Friday, May 29, 2020 7:27 AM

Silk Matt Black is a finer black just above Flat Black and just below Semi Gloss Black in color depth.  Remember, you are building the Revell of Germany kit and the instructions include Revell paint color codes which will be available soon in another few months in the US.  You can go either way with using either Flat Black or Semi Gloss Black for the hood and fender tops.  Have you tried Model Master Semi Gloss Clear No. 1959?  While it is not as popular as Ultra Gloss Clear or Dullcoat, it is out there.  I use it when I don't want a Gloss or Dullcoat finish.       

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Posted by DAYTONA on Friday, May 29, 2020 4:34 PM

...I have built a few of the kits and owned a few of the real ones.....used flat black and clear gloss, both sprayed dry for texture...about as accurate as you can get....hint, grill, rear panel and rear spoiler are just plain flat black, not organosol like the hood and fender tops

...not sure if this is proper paint etiquet, but I lightly sprayed the hood flat black to cover, then heated the paint cans (hot water) to increase the pressure and spray more flat and clear gloss in the air and wave the body part thru the paint while it is still in the air, get a perfect textured effect....good luck, it will look great,

 

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, May 29, 2020 4:42 PM

Thanks, MrMike! I appreciate your suggestion. A semi-gloss clear might be a good alternative but I will never find it in the third largest city in America!

I went to Hobbylinc and I was surprised that they had it since they are out of stock on Semi-gloss black in both Testors and Tamiya and they project that they will get it in about the end of June. They have Testors Semi-gloss black No. 1529 for $16.29 for a 3 oz can before you pay the shipping! No, thank you very much!

So I gave it a quick light coat of Krylon Clear Lacquer (about $4.00 at Michaels with a 40% off coupon for a 12 oz. can)and hope for the best when I tape it off. Thanks for looking! Cool

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Friday, May 29, 2020 4:58 PM

The kit is available in Revell USA boxing. It was released here before the Germany boxing.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Friday, May 29, 2020 5:00 PM

...one last thought, the black on the fender tops extends into the engine box by an inch or so (on the real cars, and they were sloppy) that insured no body color would show between the hood and fender

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, May 29, 2020 7:40 PM

Thanks, Prowler and Daytona. I appreciate your comments! I guess I picked the wrong one on Model Car Roundup. I thought I kept up with new releases in the magazine but I guess I didn't do a very good job. Sorry for the rant.

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, May 30, 2020 7:05 AM

Lol. Yeah I saw one at Scale model supplies in St. Paul a few months ago. Now I can't go there. It's in the middle of the riots.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:09 PM

Thanks, Prowler! Sounds like you still have a HS around you! Hope it survives! 

Finished painting the body and all the other parts and the body looks pretty good. A little bit of orange peel so I start rubbing it out tomorrow. I had rubbed out the black around the edges of the fenders before I put tape on it so that's why it looks a little different that the hood. The tape came off without a hitch and there are only a couple of little spots to be touched up with a brush. I didn't forget about the back panel either. I had painted it Semi-gloss black and taped it off as well before the sublime Green. I stil need to pull tape on the interior roof but wanted to let it dry long enough to be handled. Thanks for looking!

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by charger74 on Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:23 PM

Looks very good so far

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:09 PM

Thanks, Charger! I appreciate your comment!

I rubbed out the body last night and this morning and then started on the engine. I added plug wires and two pieces of PE wire loom brackets at the back of the valve covers to keep the wires down for clearance with the air filter. Plug boots also had to be tight on the engine to clear the exhaust manifold on the left side. Everything worked out pretty well! Thanks for looking! Cool

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Monday, June 1, 2020 5:27 PM

Yes looking good 

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Posted by DAYTONA on Monday, June 1, 2020 10:40 PM

...rubber bumpers ?

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:18 PM

Thanks, Prowler and Daytona! I appreciate your comments! I hadn't planned on the rubber bumpers and its raining now and we have a storm brewing in the Gulf. 

Interior and foil on the body are done. I ruined the dash decal in the kit. These decals made in Italy don't like Micro Sol. I pulled a decal from the Hemi kit that I have on hand. That's why the wood grain are two different colors between the dash and the console. The pistol-grip gear shifter does have wood grain paint on it but the camera didn't capture it. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:23 PM

A couple of shots of the body with foil. I forgot to sand down the edges of the wheel openings as they are too pronounced. Too late now. Thanks for looking! Cool

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:57 PM

...I see what you mean about the rear wheel openings, yes, they do look a bit exagerated, but the build is beautiful....

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Posted by midnightprowler on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 6:45 PM

Looking  good.  

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, June 4, 2020 8:59 PM

Thanks, Daytona and Prowler! I appreciate your comments! 

The body has met interior and chassis. 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, June 4, 2020 9:01 PM

And its on wheels!

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mrmike on Friday, June 5, 2020 7:36 AM

Looking good, Jr!   Love the color!

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, June 6, 2020 2:53 PM

Thanks, MrMike! I appreciate your comment! 

Its finished!  A little dissapointed in how the chassis sits in the body. Rear wheels need to move forward about 1/16", I think. Couldn't push the frame up any farther and even cut off the short frame horns up front but that's as far as it will go. The only other remedy would be to deconstruct the rear suspension, shorten the drive shaft and shorten the springs in front to move the suspension forward. I'm not going to do it at this point. I didn't notice that issue with the previous two HEMI builds, although it is basically the same kit. 

Other than that, it turned out pretty well. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, June 6, 2020 2:56 PM

A few more:

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by DAYTONA on Saturday, June 6, 2020 5:23 PM

...real Challengers and Cudas have a 2” difference in wheel base (Challenger is longer), I have wondered in past builds if the kit chassis was designed for the Challenger and just used for the Cuda, or if they ever measured the real cars that close anyway

...very nice work bringing it to life

...looking under the hood of your build reminded me of a couple of stories with a particular Tor Red AAR about 35 years ago, very cool cars and boy would they run,

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Posted by charger74 on Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:37 PM

It looks very good

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