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1970 Chevelle 454 SS WIP - Finished - Outdoor Pics, Page 2

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1970 Chevelle 454 SS WIP - Finished - Outdoor Pics, Page 2
Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, December 10, 2018 5:26 PM

I read Tim Boyd's article in the latest SA. I have built both the Monogram and AMT kits of this subject. The AMT kit was definitely an odd looking body and the Monogram kit was much better but still not quite right. So I thought maybe I could use the body and interior from the Snap-tite kit with the engine and chassis from the AMT kit. If I can cut out the hood, I think I can make a cowl piece and use the firewall from the AMT kit as well. I might be able to use the grill, headlight and bumper unit from the AMT kit. I'll sand off the 454 marking on the quarter panel since the engine in the AMT kit is a 396. I should have some decals around here somewhere. 

Let me know what you think. Is it possible to do this? Any drawbacks to look for? Here goes! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mrmike on Monday, December 10, 2018 8:24 PM

Sounds like an ambitious project, but aren't we talking about two different scales?  Monogram is 1/24 scale and AMT is 1/25.  I don't think the chassis would fit unless you stretch it.

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Posted by TarheelRick on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:55 AM

The Revell Snap-Tite is 1/25 scale.  Now, whether this will work or not depends a lot on the accuracy of scale, some of the AMT stuff is not exactly on scale.  All I can say is go for it, you will never know until you try.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:51 AM

Thanks, Mike and Rick! I appreciate your comments! 

First let me clarify what I am doing. I am trying to use the Revell Snap-tite body and interior with the AMT chassis and engine. Both are 1/25th scale, supposedly. The AMT chassis and engine are no great pieces but would allow me to put an engine into the much superior Revell body and interior. The Revell Snap-tite interior is a very well engraved bucket with separate door panels, probably one of the better interiors I have seen.

The AMT chassis has metal axles (the front axles are actually pins that mount inside the wheel well and do not go through the engine block) and there are separate pieces for the exhaust pipes and rear suspension. I have a 67 Chevelle in the closet and I mays see if that would be a better chassis and engine to use in this build.  I have a C1500 Truck 454 SS and I might explore that kit for the engine. 

Here's where I am. I used the back side of a slightly used No. 11 blade for about 2 hours and cut out the hood. I was fortunate and didn't have any skips. The AMT front bumper/grill wouldn't fit so I will have to go with the Revell pieces. I then cut the top of the cowl from sheet plastic using the measurments from the AMT kit and glued that in. I cut the tabs off the windshield/backwindow clear plastic piece and taped it in. Then, I put the interior together and mounted it into the body. Everything fits pretty well and I will just have to cut a couple of triangular pieces from sheet styrene for the corners under the window and remove or shorten the tabs from the front of the interior. 

I taped in the chassis and it fit pretty well but I will have to work on the transmission/driveshaft tunnel for the interior to widen it and shave down the AMT tunnel so that it will fit better into the interior tunnel. A different chassis might solve this issue as well. Here are a few pics:

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mrmike on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 3:39 PM

Well, leave it to me NOT to completely read ALL of your first post and not to put 1 plus 1 together and read the article in the current issue of Scale Auto.  I humbly apologize to you, sir.  I now understand what you are doing and I enourage you to continue this project with your excellent skills.  Carry on sir!

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Posted by chucky on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 7:31 PM

Looks like you're on the right track, JR. I think if anyone on this forum has done this conversion it would likely be retro joe. I'm sure you'll work your way through it as usual and have a nice Chevelle to show for it. I'm following along.  Smile

 

 

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 9:52 PM

Thanks, Mike and Chucky! I appreciate your comments! Mike, no apology needed.

I've had these GM door handles for about a year and keep forgeting to use them I previously pinned them and painted them with Alclad. So I took the solid door handles off the body and drilled a hole and I think these will look a lot better.

I am also working on the engine bay. I am using the Jack Reacher AMT kit and it has a 454 LS6 according to the instructions. That probably means is the same 396 pieces but with a new air cleaner. I am going to try to add inner fender liners on both side of the engine bay to close it off a bit around the wheel well. 

Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:58 PM

Gonna be cool. Another option for chroming the handles is Molotow.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, December 14, 2018 7:38 PM

Thanks, Prowler! I appreciate your comment! 

A little progress today. I painted the interior Nassau Blue Metallic and intend on painting the exterior the same color. I am hoping that painting the interior over gray primer and the exterior over Tamiya Aluminum will provide some difference in shade and tone. Blue on Blue! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, December 15, 2018 9:46 PM

I painted the body and related parts this morning.  Nassau Blue Metallic and two coats of clear. This paint never looks good coming out of the can but as I rub it out this evening its starting to look pretty good. I foiled the emblems before paint and them revealed them with a Tamiya cotton swab and lacquer thinner. Lighting doesn't really give you a good picture. Its coming along nicely! Thanks for looking! Cool

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mclovin on Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:04 PM

Polishing out nicely!!,i've used the Bmf trick as well and it really works if you don't want to spend a fortune on photoetched parts.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, December 17, 2018 7:04 PM

Thanks, McLovin! I appreciate your comment! 

I ran into problems rubbing out the hood. I rubbed though the edges on the bulges in the hood. Only 1 solution - more paint! I knew I would have a matching problem with the tops of the fenders so I taped down the hood and painted the hood and top of the fenders and the top and trunk while I was at it. I took the hood off after about 10 minutes of flashing after two coats of clear. I am now in the process of rubbing it out again but I think the problem is solved! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mmthrax on Thursday, December 20, 2018 1:26 PM

This is a neat project JR.  Looks like you are doing a great job.  I also like your other Chevelles.  Nice work.

Just keep picking away at it...

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:13 PM

Thanks, mmthrax! I appreciate your comment! 

I hope this Chevelle turns out better than the AMT Chevelle. Not a pretty kit. The snap-tite body is rubbed out and the foil is done on the body.

I am using the chassis and engine from the AMT and the chassis is a challenge. I move the pegs that mount into the chassis forward by shaving the front of the pin mount. I tried to move the rear axle as far forward as I could so I think this is as far as it will go. I've also glued in shims in all four corners of the body to glue the chassis in place as the interior from the snap-tite kit is pretty deep and the bottom of the body will not wrap around chassis. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by Tim Boyd on Friday, December 21, 2018 8:24 AM

Hey MC,,,,,excellent progress on your project.   And glad to hear that you concur with me on that Revell 1/25th snap tite body accuracy.  

You are kitbashing I think what every scale Chevelle fan would really like to have as a 1/25th scale full detail kit.  It is really amazing given the significance and the collectability of the 1/1 scale subject, that for one that to get a really accurate 1/25th scale full detail 1970 Chevelle SS model one would have to go to all this work instead of being able to buy a kit already engineered that way. 

But you are proving it can be done via kitbashing.  Excellent!  Best of luck with finishing the project and we all I think look forward to seeing the result.

TIM   

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Posted by Plowboy on Friday, December 21, 2018 9:57 AM

Paint looks nice JR! Something that sticks out like a sore thumb to me on the Revell body is the crease on the rear quarters panels. It has too much curve especially directly above the wheel well openings. It's especially noticeable between the rear of the door and the wheel well opening. 

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Posted by hvymtl74 on Friday, December 21, 2018 7:47 PM
Awesome looking Chevelles there as for the chassis I would use the AMT Olds 68-69 chassis to get working steering .I have a project in the box with a 71 Chevelle from AMT to build a replica of my father's car just needto find the correct wheels for it now .Just my two cents .but ido love the looks of thisone Michael

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:00 AM

Thanks, Tim, Plowboy and Michael! I appreciate your comments! Although I am not a Chevelle expert, I think this Revell body looks much better than the AMT body. The sides on the AMT body are much too concave and makes the body look like an airplane fuselage(sp?). The interior bucket is also much superior to the AMT kit! 

Here are a couple of pics of the interior. Although the dash and steering wheel may look a little rough (brush painting) under magnification, it looks pretty good to the naked eye. Used some Speedway decals for the dash along with foil on the radio and heater controls that I painted over a bit. Door panels foiled very easily and I didn't try to do the double chrome strips. One was enough for me in this scale. Its not as bright either to the naked eye. I've got to straighten out that clutch pedal! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:16 PM

Finished the engine today. I installed plug and coil wires, a gas line, and have drilled holes for heater hoses. I used wire looms that I glued to the inside of the valve covers, although a little difficult, cleaned up the plug wires nicely. I am going to black wash the aluminum painted pieces and add a decal to the air cleaner. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Monday, December 24, 2018 5:27 AM

Looking great. If you are going for factory stock those valve covers are incorrect, you need the smooth ones. I may have a extra set.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, December 24, 2018 9:40 PM

Thanks, Prowler! I decided on the chrome valve covers to dress it up a bit. 

Its on wheels and now there is an engine in the bay! Just have to finish the hoses, detail the grill and bumpers, add the hood tie-downs, door handles, and hood stripe decals. Merry Christmas and thanks for looking! Cool

The aprons that I made for the inner fender worked out well as they cut out space that you could see the ground between the outoer fender and the inner fender. 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Tuesday, December 25, 2018 5:47 AM

Factory ones could be had in chrome. Looking good.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:30 PM

Thanks, Prowler! I appreciate your comments! 

I have several pieces to assemble for the front end. I previously drilled the holes for the hood tie-downs and have now glued on the plates. I have also positioned the needles (I ran out of the ones that came with the Detail Master PE so I pilfered a couple from my wife's sewing box) after building some supports for them in front of the radiator support.

Painted some Tamiya tape that I cut for the middle of the grill and attached it. (Thanks Tim Boyd for that tip in your article). It might be a little too wide but it will do. Finally, I bent and cut a piece of .020 plastic rod and used the Molotow pen to chrome it. Now I just need to hang the pins or clasps on some wire and glue to the back of the grill at each corner. Thanks for looking! Cool

Photos with and without the hood ( no wonder it needs tie downs)Laugh :

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:53 PM

I've attached the pins for the tie-downs with single stands of wire from a multi-braid wire. Finished the engine bay detail with heater hoses, radiator hose, master brake cylinder with booster, and decal on the air cleaner. Finally, I added the stripes and cowl induction decals to the hood. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by justmike on Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:18 PM

I really like that engine bay.  Of course the whole car looks good. lol

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Posted by 60Buick on Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:19 AM

Wow! An award winner for sure! 

JR this is truly an awesome build! 

Thanks for sharing the project! 

Jeff

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:26 PM

Thanks, Mike and Jeff! The engine bay came out OK. It has some issues but considering there was no engine bay when I started it turned out pretty well. 

So I've finished it! I didn't put the trunk stripes on because they didn't fit well without covering up the Chevelle badge. Scale cannot always be exact. I painted in the marker lamps, mounted the door handles and an outside mirror, molotowed the door and trunk locks, added license plates and the rear bumper and taillights. Outdoor pics tomorrow if there is any sun. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:29 PM

Two more:

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mclovin on Friday, December 28, 2018 1:09 PM

You definately knocked this build outta the park!!

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Posted by KWT on Friday, December 28, 2018 5:17 PM

Awesome job!

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