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1971 Plymouth GTX double black WIP
Posted by felhasznaaloo on Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:04 PM

Hello,

My next Mopar build is a '71 GTX, kit by Revell, no. 85-2166. This is the kit that has a yellow model depicted on the sides, while there is a green 1:1 car on the top of the box.

My question is, if I want to glue the front body skirt (valance) to the body, so that I can work the two together a little, will I be able to mate the chassis (with motor and suspension attached) with the body later? My test fit says yes, see pics,  but could someone please confirm.

Thank in advance,

Csaba

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:50 PM

IIRC from when I did mine in 93 or 94, yes. 

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Posted by dreamsinplastic on Saturday, October 13, 2018 8:14 PM

I did that to mine. Super glue the lower valance,then fill & sand. Take care around the radiator.I think I waited to mount the "K" member & steering,wheels & tires til later. I did the same with the rear lower valance....I nervously fought that,to get the chassis & exhaust to  squeeze in,without breaking something!  I would not do that again. (I posted my build,awhile back,in the "Muscle Car" forum...The Gold w/Black vinyl top) PS: Also attached the two chin spoilers,with 5min. epoxy....Before priming & painting....Then masked around them & used Flat Black with a brush.  Good Luck...Have FUN !!......JohnZ

I'm in the middle of a BIG move....From Corpus Christi TX to Tucson AZ.

NO building for awhile,til I set up my shop again !!

                   

 

 

 

 

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:36 PM

Thank you guys! I will do it then, also the spoilers - I would have forgotten...

The rear skirt will be attached only afterwards, no way to squeeze the chassis in with that in place. However I carved grooves at each end of it for a better / smoother fit. Thanks again!

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Posted by Plowboy on Monday, October 15, 2018 11:15 AM

I built the '71 'Cuda some years ago that has a similar issue. I glued the rear valance in permanent because of the exhaust going through it. Anyone who has built one knows what a pain it can be to get on in final assembly. Especially trying to get it on neatly.

Up front, I glued the valance/grille only to the fenders with some Tamiya Extra Thin Cement. Once dry, I cut new lines on the valance where they should be with a razor saw. With the lines established , I cut them at an angle  (around 45 degrees) like you would do with a pumpkin. This will give you a surface to glue the valance to. With the valance cut free, you can paint it separately and install it after the chassis.

 

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Posted by MLOMAKA on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:57 PM
Yes, Not only should you attach the front pan, but you can/should fix the parting lines to match the 1:1. they go underneath the whole way. Mike

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Monday, October 22, 2018 3:39 AM

Plowboy

I built the '71 'Cuda some years ago that has a similar issue. I glued the rear valance in permanent because of the exhaust going through it. Anyone who has built one knows what a pain it can be to get on in final assembly. Especially trying to get it on neatly.

Up front, I glued the valance/grille only to the fenders with some Tamiya Extra Thin Cement. Once dry, I cut new lines on the valance where they should be with a razor saw. With the lines established , I cut them at an angle  (around 45 degrees) like you would do with a pumpkin. This will give you a surface to glue the valance to. With the valance cut free, you can paint it separately and install it after the chassis.

Thank you. I thought it looked impossible to install the chassis with the rear valance glued on. So I did kind of what you suggested for the front: carved grooved (?) ends on both ends of the rear pan for a more positive placement after painting.

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Monday, October 22, 2018 3:52 AM

MLOMAKA
Yes, Not only should you attach the front pan, but you can/should fix the parting lines to match the 1:1. they go underneath the whole way. Mike

Thank you. I thought about adding those lines, but past experience shows I tend to make a mess when I (re)scribe a panel line... now where is my favorite emoticon... Bang Head

And the model is black, plus the chin spoilers are there, which I attached and will repaint later, so it would not really show anyway.

Paint is not yet rubbed out. Moderate orange peel. I was in a hurry as I am trying to get paint on several models before the cold weather sets in. So I forgot to take a picture before spraying, and also forgot to BMF the GTX emblem on both sides. Will do that later anyway and touch up around carefully with decanned paint. Or at least that is the plan.

Thanks for looking and please comment. Csaba

 

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Posted by MLOMAKA on Monday, October 29, 2018 4:04 PM
Yes, panel lines can be a pain. That black hides a lot, so I don't even think you are going to see them. Mike

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Posted by Charger01 on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:14 PM
Fantastic paint, looks great!

Joaquim

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:26 PM

Thank you. This is Tamiya spray paint and it came out quite nice, even for me. Stick out tongue

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Posted by dreamsinplastic on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:08 PM

Looks BADASS in Black.....Big Lesson learned by me.......Clean up,Prefit & Mock up EVERYTHING !!..Tests my patience at times !!

I'm in the middle of a BIG move....From Corpus Christi TX to Tucson AZ.

NO building for awhile,til I set up my shop again !!

                   

 

 

 

 

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Thursday, November 1, 2018 12:00 PM

Thanks!

dreamsinplastic

Big Lesson learned by me.......Clean up,Prefit & Mock up EVERYTHING !!..Tests my patience at times !!

So true! Both ways... I am violating this 'law' and my habit of building right now as I painted 2 bodies recently (this GTX and a Morris Cooper) before winter is here. Plus I started a new model (a curbside '66 Buick) when I hit a block with my almost finished '69 Charger build... 

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Posted by midnightprowler on Thursday, November 1, 2018 4:48 PM

Looking good. If you are doing a stock build, your paint is fine without polishing. Factory stock cars don't have show car shine anyway.

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Friday, November 16, 2018 10:50 AM

I just realized I forgot to say thanks. I would normally argue in favor of polishing, to reduce larger-than-scale orange peel, but this black paint lay down quite nice so I could actually get away without rubbing it out.

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:51 PM
After a six month rest , I'm back seeking Mopars LOL . I do love this one , as a pair of brothers (AKA "The Peach Brothers" …) had a 440+6 4 speed '71 in Black with silver stripes . Big fat centrelines poking out the rear arches ( It was the '80's ! ) Low 11 sec . 1/4 mile times if I remember !
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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Saturday, February 2, 2019 2:52 AM

Thank you Spencer. Unfortunately this thread is dead until I get to this build again. If you are seeking Mopars, this is what I have for you, my previous build: https://youtu.be/dQo3yjpu2is

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Posted by chucky on Saturday, February 2, 2019 5:23 PM

Nice subject! A friend and I were just commenting at a recent Mopar meet how cool the body lines are on the '71 Roadrunner/GTX, especially with some beefy rear tires. We tend to dwell on the late sixties models and apparently underappreciated the '71+ B-body cars. I'll be waiting for you to pick back up on this build. Additionally, thanks for the link for the Charger. That's such a good-looking ride. Color looks perfect with the "white hat": they knew what they were doing in the advertising department. Love your replica, especially the speaker grille detail. Another work of art, Csaba! 

chucky

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Saturday, February 2, 2019 5:51 PM

Thank you very very much, Chucky.

I agree with what you say about the 71+ vintage.  It is interesting to look back on how automotive design went from boxy to curvy to straight then to curvy again then back to straight lines again... My favorite designs seem to be from between 1967 and about  '79. 

BTW https://youtu.be/a2Eqv5vFzz0

 

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:13 AM

Hello. This one was finished last fall, but because posting pictures here is now relatively complicated, I never finished the thread...

 

 

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Posted by Bainford on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 AM

Nice looking Plymouth. These cars look so good in black. Menacing. Well done.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:59 AM

You've cranked out another beauty, Csaba! What paint is that? It looks like a dark cherry but maybe its just the lighting since I see that you titled it double black. In any event, beautiful work! Cool Thumbs Up Bow

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Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:08 PM

Thank you. Smile

It is Tamiya black spray. My last body painted from a rattle can. I switched to a cheap airbrush since then.

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