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The Striped Tomato Is Complete!

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The Striped Tomato Is Complete!
Posted by mrmike on Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:10 AM

This kit has been in my stash for a couple of years now and I think its time to build it!  The kit is Revell's Starsky & Hutch Ford Torino, kit #85-4023.  Click the link for the video theme song. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsJ4pALlbEMThis

As I unbox this kit and prep it for primer and paint, I am kind of curious about the car and the kit.  I wonder if this is the TV car or the Movie car?  A dual quad 351 CI Windsor with dual exhaust seems to be closer to what Movie car was, but some of the information I have come across points in both directions.  I don't really know if this is the TV or the Movie car Torino.  I vaguely recall watching a special on TV about the Starsky & Hutch Movie Cars and the subtle differences made. 

I seem to recall something about the stripe.  Was it longer or shaped differently?  I can't remember!  Unless I can find something specific about about the S&H Ford Torino TV car, I am going to err on the Movie Car side for now.

 

I will be painting the body with Tamiya TS-49 Bright Red.  The wheels have been in my parts box for some time now and they bare a resemblance to the wheels in the kit, but these have more offset to them, the holes have a slightly different shape, and the chrome has a more faded look now that mimics an aluminium wheel. 

 

   

More to come...

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Posted by mmthrax on Sunday, January 07, 2018 11:23 AM

I'm onboard Mike.  This should be good. Dinner

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, January 07, 2018 12:25 PM

Watching this. I doubt there's much difference between the tv car and movie car.

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:03 PM

Thanks guys!

You would be surprised in the differences between a TV car and a Movie Car.  TV shows tend to work with much smaller budgets, even if the show is widely successful.  For instance, let's look at the Black Beauty from the Green Hornet.  The TV version (there were two cars) was a slightly customized Imperial by Chrysler.  It was customized by Dean Jefferies with much of the $50,000 budget for the car going to the paint job.  The movie version included several cars with various drivetrains and a subtantially more equipment than the TV car.  Here's a link to an article about the Black Beauty from the TV and Movie.

http://greenhornet.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Beauty

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:47 PM

If I remember my mums S&H fan club information correctly AHEM.... (I have a big yellow badge & fanzines from '78 still !! ) the motor was a 460 . It should be a bench seat in front too. (the car was also in an early episode of the Dukes of Hazzard - driven by Cooter , when the General was still black) .  I must have had my memory tablets again - I never remember random stuff like that !! LMAO

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Posted by spencer1984 on Monday, January 08, 2018 6:23 AM

Looking forward to seeing what you do with this! I did mine box stock just to see how it went together, and was very impressed by the fit and finish. The wheels aren't 100% accurate, but most everything else looks good and goes together easily. Less impressive was the instruction booklet, which had so many errors I ended up making a revised version:

 http://spencer1984.com/85-4023.pdf

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Posted by mrmike on Monday, January 08, 2018 8:45 AM

spencer1984

Looking forward to seeing what you do with this! I did mine box stock just to see how it went together, and was very impressed by the fit and finish. The wheels aren't 100% accurate, but most everything else looks good and goes together easily. Less impressive was the instruction booklet, which had so many errors I ended up making a revised version:

 http://spencer1984.com/85-4023.pdf

 

Thanks Spencer and Spencer!  

Bill, I had seen mention of the errors in the instructions and printed your revision and stuck them into the box just after getting the kit.  If it wasn't for you and your good eyes, I might have blindly installed the intake manifold in backwards, even though I know better!  I do thank you for your efforts to the hobby!  I was told elsewhere that this kit is a reproduction of a 1:1 tribute car, so it has the 351 CI Windsor with dual quads and the dual exhaust system.  That tells me this is not the actual show car.  I had heard that the wheels were not accurate and I was going to use them anyway, until I remembered the MPC wheels I had in my parts box.  I'm using them because of the greater offset those wheels have over the kit wheels.  

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Posted by mmthrax on Monday, January 08, 2018 9:37 AM

Well Mike, despite the kit inaccuracies....

"Don't give up on it baby, you'll make the wrong seem right

the project isn't just one night, it's written in the moonlight

painted in the stars, that you're always working on cars"

 

HaHa couldn't resist.  Hope you get the reference, or else it's just weird. Smile

Mark

 

Just keep picking away at it...

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Posted by mrmike on Monday, January 08, 2018 9:57 AM

mmthrax

Well Mike, despite the kit inaccuracies....

"Don't give up on it baby, you'll make the wrong seem right

the project isn't just one night, it's written in the moonlight

painted in the stars, that you're always working on cars"

 

HaHa couldn't resist.  Hope you get the reference, or else it's just weird. Smile

Mark

 

 

Good golly!  You had to throw in some of the lyrics to David Soul's hit song, didn't you?!!!  'Cuse me, I gotta hurl!!! Ick! 

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Posted by mmthrax on Monday, January 08, 2018 10:56 AM

Whistling

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Posted by spencer1984 on Monday, January 08, 2018 7:51 PM

mmthrax

Well Mike, despite the kit inaccuracies....

"Don't give up on it baby, you'll make the wrong seem right

the project isn't just one night, it's written in the moonlight

painted in the stars, that you're always working on cars"

 

HaHa couldn't resist.  Hope you get the reference, or else it's just weird. Smile

Mark

Thank goodness I had The Runaways playing while I was reading this, they successfully countered the effects Laugh

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Posted by mrmike on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 5:17 PM

spencer1984

 

 
mmthrax

Well Mike, despite the kit inaccuracies....

"Don't give up on it baby, you'll make the wrong seem right

the project isn't just one night, it's written in the moonlight

painted in the stars, that you're always working on cars"

 

HaHa couldn't resist.  Hope you get the reference, or else it's just weird. Smile

Mark

 

 

Thank goodness I had The Runaways playing while I was reading this, they successfully countered the effects Laugh

 

Good job Bill!  I'm still hurlin' Ick!

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Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 7:39 PM

Its a good kit MrMike! Built it a couple of years ago with good contest results - 1st place in one contest and 2nd in another in Street Stock and Street machine. Watch out on the decals. Very difficult to line everything up with the door handle and door lock cutouts. May want to cut some white decal from another sheet and piece it in on the door lock or handle or dab on some white paint after the decal has dried which is what I did. Good luck! Cool

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Posted by mrmike on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:51 AM

I have heard of the issues with the decals and it is something I will watch when I get to that point.  I will take a gander through my extra decals for some white or maybe look for some white paint that matches the decals.  Good idea, Jr!  I've had this kit for a couple of years and I kept looking at it in the stash and just pulling it out to look at the kit contents.  Not sure why I want to build this kit now, but to quote Larry the Cable Guy, "Git-R-Dun"!    

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Posted by Big Gary on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:02 PM

Around the time the movie came out Hot Rod Magazine had an article on the S&H movie Torinos.  There were 2 cars, but the one they showed everyone was a 460 powered car.

side note: One of these cars or one very similar appeared on a recent episode of "The Good Doctor", doing burnouts.  Great to see that car again.

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Posted by mrmike on Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:57 AM

Big Gary

side note: One of these cars or one very similar appeared on a recent episode of "The Good Doctor", doing burnouts.  Great to see that car again. 

"The Good Doctor" is produced in British Columbia, Canada and the car used was most likely sourced from a local Canadian owner.  

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Posted by Charger01 on Friday, January 12, 2018 2:18 PM

Here´s an idea of what you can do with this kit. 

https://servimg.com/view/19746108/189

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Posted by mmthrax on Friday, January 12, 2018 3:22 PM

That model looks fantastic.  Dig the dish on those wheels.

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Posted by mrmike on Saturday, January 13, 2018 7:09 AM

Nice looking Torino!  Personally, I think the dish is a little too deep, but then it is not my model.  

  

Joaquim, use the BBC code for image and your picture will appear in your posting like this.

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Posted by mrmike on Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:28 PM

I got the body ready for primer.  I just need to wash it of all contaminants. 

I painted the engine block with Model Master Acryl French Blue.  My friend Paul offered to drill out the distributor cap for plug wires.

I removed the supports for the suspension and will replace them with coil springs offered by my friend Barry.  Since the wheels from my parts box have more offset, I am modifying the wheels backs for a better fit.

More to come...

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Posted by Charger01 on Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:56 AM
Thanks for the advice mrmike!

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:32 PM

You're welcome!  That's why we are here.  To offer advice and to help each other!

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Posted by midnightprowler on Monday, January 15, 2018 4:26 AM

Another option for the suspension posts if you don't have coil springs is to simulate them by wrapping wire around them. How well do the front body corners fit?

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Posted by mrmike on Monday, January 15, 2018 2:58 PM

I had thought about doing that until my friend Barry offered me the coil springs.  I think the coil springs will look better.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Monday, January 15, 2018 6:15 PM

No doubt. Does he have any more? Big Smile

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Posted by mrmike on Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:50 AM

midnightprowler

No doubt. Does he have any more? Big Smile

 

He has a couple of sets left.  Why do you ask?

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Posted by rickr442 on Saturday, January 27, 2018 2:16 PM

The kit replicates the film cars. Over a dozen were built at a huge cost-per-car, and most were wasted in the sloppy stunt work shown in the blooper reel during the closing credit roll.

I worked with movie cars for a few years, worked once with an S&H veteran. Oh, the stories he could tell! He said the early cars were 'dogs', often sourced from local dealers on short notice because Mr. Glaser, a New York actor, was NOT a great wheelman. Plenty of bent fenders and gouged sheet metal during location shoots.

Most were 351 and 400 2-barrels with California smog specs and the 'economy' gearing popular during the ongoing gas crisis, so that tire squealing was often aided by sound effects and talcum powder in front of the rear wheels. I tried that once- it works great!

Ford was less than happy with the non-stock wheels and modified stance on the TV cars BUT they also knew the Torino was an aging model. With the TV-car replica idea, new showroom traffic was generated, some extra cars were sold, and the 'stock appearing' contract gaffe was overlooked. 

Ford pushed for the Torino to be replaced by an LTD II but the show died off before any change took hold. Good move there... That woulda looked really dumb.

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Posted by mrmike on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:52 AM

rickr442

Ford pushed for the Torino to be replaced by an LTD II but the show died off before any change took hold. Good move there... That woulda looked really dumb.

 

Rick, Ford did offer an stripe package on the LTD II that mimics the Striped Tomato and that may have been the replacement for the Starsky & Hutch Torino.  But, if they had jacked up the back of the car, the front end would look like it was being pushed into the ground.

I did some priming and painting this morning to get the Striped Tomato ready for paint and assembly.  

And, it's time to clean the paintbooth and replace the filter again!

More to come...

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Posted by mrmike on Thursday, February 01, 2018 9:26 AM

I painted up the 2-way radio.

The body and hood got painted yesterday.  Now to wet sand the paint and remove the trash and dog hair.

The engine is in-process and the chassis is complete with suspension and wheels and tires.

More to come...

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet." Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985 

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Posted by spencer1984 on Thursday, February 01, 2018 10:12 PM
Looking good, I like those wheels!

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