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70 Plymouth Cuda WIP - Finished! Some outdoor Pics!

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70 Plymouth Cuda WIP - Finished! Some outdoor Pics!
Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, January 07, 2017 8:57 PM

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:19 AM

Looking forward to this. I'll take the AMT Hemi off your hands if you don't need it.WhistlingWinkBig Smile

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:30 AM

Thanks, Prowler!  I'll let you know on the AMT HEMI. I know that certain parts are shared like the oil filter and starter so I don't know what other parts I won't need yet. I might also try to swap the double 4 barrel carb from the HEMI to the 440.

In the meantime, I have opened the kit and started working on the body - mold lines on the top going down both pillars and reducing the lip on the wheel openings. I thought about using the "custom" hood as its called in the kit and started looking for it. Unfortunately, I happen to have two hoods and shakers for the HEMI.

So I've sent a parts request to Revell via their website to get the entire missing tree for the custom hood. I'm not sure what other parts I'm missing. I could open my other kit of this 70 Cuda but I am trying to keep in in the wrapper. I guess I'll find out if they send the other tree and not just the hood. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, January 09, 2017 11:50 AM

Well, I'm somewhat impatient so I thought I would check off the parts I have in this kit on the parts list to see what is missing. Then I cross-referenced what was not checked off with the left-over parts that I have from buiding this kit the first time. Success! The missing parts are the custom hood, custom grille, and the left and right custom rear leaf springs. The custom front suspension is on a separate tree and that is in the kit. So I am only missing four parts and can substitute from my spare parts without waiting on Revell to replace the parts. The remaining extra parts from the first build are the hood tie downs, distributor and elastomeric bumpers that I didn't use.

I am also trying to fit the 440 engine in the chassis. The kit HEMI sits low in the frame. I'll have to work on the 440 to get it to sit lower so the interior platform will sit down. I also may have to swap the oil pan to clear the tie rods. Thanks for looking! Cool 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Monday, January 09, 2017 5:03 PM

I have the springs and grill. Pm me if interested.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, January 09, 2017 8:23 PM

Thanks, Prowler! I have the springs and grill from the previous build. I'll have a second set and hood if Revell fills my request for missing parts.

Took a good part of the day but I have the 440 engine sitting in the chassis so that it is level and the interior floor sits down. I may have to notch the front of the transmission tunnel just a little bit to get it to glue down tight. I think the engine sits low enough that I won't have any issues with the carbs and air cleaner in terms of height or interference with the hood closing.

Then I received a surprise in the mail today! MCW paint for this build and the Indy Car. A bottle of bright blue metallic labelled as Pellam Blue, a bottle of Players Blue for the Indy Car and a third bottle of Dodge/Plymouth Gold Metallic that I'll use for something else. I wanted to spread the shipping charge to as many bottles as I could without getting outragious. I also received the IndyCals for the Greg Morre car as well. I may have a window this week so maybe I can get both painted. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, January 13, 2017 5:25 PM

Got up this moring about 6 AM and it was pouring down rain. I thought painting was out for the day but as the day progressed it turned into almost a spring day! So I broke out the airbrush and painted this 'Cuda with MCW Pellam Blue or Bright Blue Metallic. What a great day! I painted everything - both hoods, interior, engine compartment, body, bumpers, roll pans, mirrors etc. Used almost the whole bottle and then followed with two coats of Krylon Clear Lacquer on the body and related parts.  The rebuilt airbrush worked like a champ and the MCW paint is beautiful! Thanks for looking!

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:29 PM

I'm finishing up the painting on the chassis and engine bay using Tim Boyd's article in SA, April 2014. Gray primer, overspray of the body color and then black in the transmisson and axle tunnels and wheel wells. I spray the flat black also on the front of the radiator support and maybe a lttle too much overspray went into the engine bay. I may touch the engine bay up with the little bit of body color I have left. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by bugs-one on Friday, January 20, 2017 4:37 PM
Really liking that Blue. Nice work.
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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, January 20, 2017 6:05 PM

Thanks, Bugs! I appreciate your comment!

I have been working on a race car and finally turned my attention to this one. I noticed a few problems in the paint. I had started puffing up and flaking off! I seemed to be where there was a seam or a curve of some sort. So I began sanding out a few areas and pretty soon it was apparent that it affected the back of window, rear panel door and trunk lines and each of the lips of the wheel openings. I don't know what caused it, maybe I didn't wash it before painting but I had wet sanded the whole body p[retty well. I worked each area with some sandpaper, a toothpick and a file. Here's what it looked like:

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, January 20, 2017 6:18 PM

So I considered my options. I didn't really have enough paint in the bottle to touch it up with an air brush and I wasn't sure it would cover. I could remove the paint altogether and start over. Then it occurred to me that the color was awfully close to Nassau Blue Metallic. I have used a method before to touch up paint that might work if the paint was a match. My method it to move the can very quickly across the area that needs more paint. Not repainting the whole body just the areas that needed touch up with a very quick pass of paint mist. Nassau Blue Metallic is a dead match for this MCW Bright Blue Metallic, # 6762. It worked! I covered the spots then gave it a couple of coats of Krylon Clear Lacquer.  I got lucky and saved this one and it should be ready to rub out tomorrow. Then it started raining again this evening. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:19 AM

Nice save, great color. What did you use for primer?

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, January 22, 2017 12:38 PM

Thanks, Prowler! I used what I always use for the last 25 years, WalMart Primer. I also added a coat of Krylon Aluminum for base coat which I also use a lot under metallic colors. I let both dry overnight. I don't know what caused it. Maybe the krylon wasn't dry enough in the cracks and seams.

So I rubbed out the body after it dried overnight. Looks good. Then I noticed that the hood was another hue so I spent some time yesterday blending in the hood before the wind started howling at 25-30 mph. I'll be rubbing it out again today.

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, January 22, 2017 12:48 PM

While waiting for paint to dry I assembled the 440. I added plug and coil wires, breather hoses and a fuel line. Fuel line was made out of a staple bent and cut to fit, a piece of wire that comes out of the MAD distributor inside the boot material for the line, breather hoses are another piece of wire from a MAD distributor, and the fitting on the right side is the bottom of the stem from the MAD distributor base that I cut off and drilled a hole in to insert the hose.  I super glued the wire to the staple for the fuel line and then used some white glue to simulate a fitting and painted it brass. The intake manifold and duel carbs are from the Hemi in the Cuda kit. I am just going to handy tack the air cleaner on the carbs so that I can remove it for display with the hood open. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by Gary Davis on Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:42 PM

This is really looking good MCjr. I like that blue...it likes close to the Oldsmobile met engine blue that I used on the 72 Olds. GREAT save on the body paint too.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:16 PM

Nice job on the 440. I use Walmart primer too. I would skip the aluminum paint however. The metallic paint should cover fine. It's possible that paint didn't bite into the aluminum. I spray color right over the primer.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, January 23, 2017 7:48 PM

Thanks, Gary and Prowler! I appreciate your comments! 

Well, it continues to be a wild ride with this one. I didn't like how the hood looked not matching the fenders so I shot some more paint on the hood and fenders. While doing that got some paint on the top so I re-painted it and the trunk. Got some junk in the top so I let it dry a bit rubbed out the junk and hit it again with some paint and clear over the entire body. Let it dry overnight and rubbed it out this morning.

This morning I taped off the back to shoot some flat black on the back panel. But that paint cracked. Maybe overnight wasn't long enough. So I took the paint off with some lacquer thinner with cotton swabs. Then I re-shot the flat black and finally got a good finish there. So now I'm exhausted but was able to get a couple of pieces of foil on the back. Taking tomorrow off! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 8:31 PM

Finally, the paint is done, hood matches everything looks OK! Foil is done and now I can get on to detailing and assembling the interior and the rest of the build! Thanks for looking! Cool

 

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:50 PM

Since I am using the 440 engine in this one I had to adapt the exhaust pipes to the exhaust manifolds. I am using some Detail Master 2.5" radiator hose that is about the same size as the exhaust tubing. Its easy to bend and fairly easy to measure and mark for cutting and doesn't take too long. Then I just paint the hose with some Metalizer steel. I had previously modified the engine mounts a bit to make sure I could get the engine to sit low and level.

I am also working on the interior. I foiled the gauge bezels, radio and and heater controls. Then I blackwashed the panel with the radio and heater controls and added the woodgrain decals around the gauges. The decal is still setting but looks like it will work. I used the white gauge faces as the black ones in the kit have very poor registration. Thanks for looking! Cool

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by justmike on Friday, January 27, 2017 11:13 PM

You are a persistant man. I would have had that in oven cleaner so fast because I never would have believed I could save the paint job. Good save on your part. The engine looks good. Nice use of little bits sourced from all over.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:01 PM

Thanks, Mike! Yeah, I got lucky!

Finished the interior. I really like this interior - plain and simple. A few pices of foil on the door handles and window cranks. Decals for the wood grain. A little work on the dash. Done! Here are some interior pics:

Oops! I forgot the center decal for the steering wheel! I'll get that on.

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:09 PM

I've mocked the body, interior and engine in the chassis to see if the hood will fit. Looks good so now I'll move on to assembly of the chassis suspensions and get this one together! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:39 PM

Ok, now I need some help! This kit is a bit of a tail sitter, it sits lower in the  back than the front. So I started adding some plastic to the block on the spring. This seems counter-intuitive to me and maybe I've got a brain freeze but I think this will lower the rear even more. Maybe I should remove some plastic from the block on spring or put some plastic under the shackles at each end of the spring. If anyone can advise I would appreciate itl  Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:50 AM

I got up this morning a little more clear-headed and re-read Tim Boyd's article in April 2014 SA and realized I should reduce the depth of the rear axle mounts on the leaf spring. So I have done that on one of the spring mounts below to the surface of the spring which is about 1/16". I wil reduce both and see how that affects the stance of the build. I should be able to do a mock-up without attaching the shocks before I glue in the chassis. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, January 29, 2017 9:01 AM

Jr, adding styrene to the spring pads will only lower the rear suspension even more.  Substitute the lowered custom front suspension for the front and if the rear suspension is still too low for your liking, add a block to the rear spring mounts.  Here are a couple of pictures of my 'Cuda from almost 3 years ago.  The first is with the stock front suspension.

This is with the lowered custom front suspension.

I hope this helps you.

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Posted by smhardesty on Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:38 PM

mrmike,

I’ve been following this thread closely because I also have the kit and will be building it sometime in the next few months. I’m trying to understand what it is you did to the front. I definitely like the stance in the second photo better. Is the “lowered custom front suspension” an option in the kit’s parts? Did I understand that correctly?

Steve

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:59 PM

Thanks, MrMike!  I see that your method would work too but I wanted to use the stock suspensions for a more stock height so I went with reducing the spring pads by about 1/16" as I mentioned in my last post. I think it worked out OK. Now I just have to go back and add the wheel backs and shocks after I glue in the taillights. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:33 PM

smhardesty

 

mrmike,

I’ve been following this thread closely because I also have the kit and will be building it sometime in the next few months. I’m trying to understand what it is you did to the front. I definitely like the stance in the second photo better. Is the “lowered custom front suspension” an option in the kit’s parts? Did I understand that correctly?

 

The Revell '70 Hemi 'Cuda Kit #85-4268 includes two versions that can be built.  One is stock and the other is a custom.  Both versions have their own suspensions or you can build it your way.  When I did the mockup with the stock suspension, I didn't like the "nose up" attitude of the 'Cuda.  I change the front suspension to the lowered custom suspension and I liked the stance much better.  The rear suspension is the stock version.  Jr, I wanted to answer smhardesty's question and I apologize for highjacking your thread.  BTW, your 'Cuda is really coming along very well!

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Posted by smhardesty on Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:31 PM

modelcarjr,

Please accept my apology as well. No harm intended. I didn’t want to detract from your flow either. I’ve just been following closely and needed that little bit of clarification. I’m picking up tips as you go along. Looks like you’re on the way to a really nice build.

Steve

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, January 30, 2017 8:38 AM

No problem, guys! Discussion is great to my way of thinking and I need all the help I can get! Big Smile

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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