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1970 Monte Carlo 454 WIP - Finished; Outdoor Pics!

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1970 Monte Carlo 454 WIP - Finished; Outdoor Pics!
Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:31 PM

Since this has a 454 in it I guess its a muscle car so I'll put it here. I've alwasys liked the looks of a Monte Carlo so I'm surprised I haven't built one before. The base model had a 350 in it. I thought about switching to a 350 and use the one out of the 701/2 Camaro since its still on the shelves. But then in order to use the power steering and air conditioning pieces I would have to adapt them and not sure how all that would go together.

I thought I would clean all the flash and mold lines on all the parts and get everything ready to paint. The body was in pretty good shape just some mold lines on the headlight bezels and flash in the wheel openings and window openings. Quite a bit of flash on a few of the detail parts like the air conditioning hose, exhaust manifolds and a few other parts. I bagged the parts by color and most are still attached to sprue. Next, I'll wash each bag of parts in Dawn liquid soap and let them air dry after tamping down with a cotton cloth.

I sorta used the match & paint guide. The have broken the blacks and silvers down but I usually paint every black part flat black and all the silver pieces with aluminum. If I want a semi-black then I just add a light coat of clear. If I differentiate the silvers I use foil or brush paint pieces with Metalizer, for instance, steel. I put the multi-colored pieces with their dominant color.  Keeps it simple.

I'll go ahead and assemble the engine block and related pieces and paint them orange as one assembly. There's not much chrome on this one; two bumpers, two mirrors, a shifter and 4 wheels. Waiting for some good weather to paint! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by Retro Joe on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:16 PM
Got this one going too! Mine is in transparent red over a gold base. Came out tremendously shiny with no clear coat or polishing. Posted in my "Some Upcoming Builds" thread. I'm sure you will be finished way before me...looking forward to seeing yours!
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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:02 PM

Thanks, Joe! I dunno, you already have a headstart on me! Good luck with your build! Cool

I decided that this Monte Carlo should have a vinyl roof. So first thing was too sand off the Monte Carlo scripts on the B pillars. Then I marked the front and back of the roof to lay down masking tape as the vinyl roof. The top is about 2" so I marked at 1/2" and   1 1/2" so the overlapping middle piece will look symmetrical.

Next I started applying tape from a 2" roll of tape that I keep for vinyl roofs. As you can see it is somewhat old and yellowed.

I cut it at the back and then start pressing the tape down from front to back including the sides using a cotton swab and a square to round toothpick that has been used and broken in so that the point is not sharp enough to rip the tape. Once satisfied with how it lays down and there are no wrinkles I cut the tape with a new No. 11 blade.

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:11 PM

Once the right side is done I then cut a piece that is 1 1/4" wide to go in the middle. I split the 1/4" so that I have 1/8" on each side. On this one the space in the middle was a little off so I had to triagulate the middle piece a little bit to make the overlap equal on each side at least to the naked eye.

Once the top was done I cut the tape at the trunk lines and then cut a 1/8" piece to run across the back. I taped off the white part of the body and painted with flat black followed by a "light" coat of clear.

That's my method for a vinyl top!

 

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by Samiches on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:27 PM

I almost started this same model as a WIP a couple of days ago... that would have been embarassing for me!  I had been waiting since mid march to get a new set of bumbers for this kit.  Mine had a bunch of over spray.  I decided to start on a '98 Firebird instead.

At least I will get a good idea of what parts don't fit.  Unfortunately, I already painted the interior and exterior, so I hope everything lines up there.

Good job with the rag top!  I tried to do that with a '66 Olds 442, and I wish I would have just painted it two-tone instead!

Keep up the good work JR!

last build: 1967 Corvette 427 Roadster http://cs.scaleautomag.com/sca/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/126370.aspx

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:15 AM

Thanks, Samiches! I doubt anything that I build would embarrass you. Your Hurst Olds and all your builds are very well done! Especially, the interiors with the wood grain and seat belts. I can't seem to master the wood grain technique so this one will probably just have a black instrument panel. I've also got to find some seat belt buckles as plastic that I try to brush paint just doesn't look good.

I think I will paint this one something that resembles Astro Blue, maybe Nassau Blue Metallic. But it will be awhile till I can paint - raining again today. Maybe I'll order some stuff from Detail Master, MCG and MCW. That could get expensive! Thanks for looking!

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mikemopar70 on Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:14 AM

YesThat vinyl top will look great!

http://public.fotki.com/Mikemopar70/

 

Let's keep on building!!!

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Posted by topman on Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:59 AM

Really appreciate you sharing the step-by-step, magazine-worthy material! Vinyl top looks great Yes

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:32 AM

Thanks, Mike and Topman! I appreciate your comments! Its not the only way to do the vinyl top but it is an easy method. The tape looks in scale to me, the seams are a natural result of the process and the finish looks good with just flat black and a little clear. And the only part that is time consuming is pressing it down so that there are no wrinkles.To me its easier than cutting plastic strip for the seams and then using some suade type of paint that I am not familiar with and either screwing up the paint job or ending up with something that may not look in scale. That's my My 2 Cents! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mod3llover on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:35 AM

   Jr.,

   I just love that vinyl top!! I am affraid to try that method,

but the results are amazing to say the least.

  Do you need to put glue or adhesive of some type down

on the surface first? Super nice work, build on sir

 

   David S.

Hobby time is Happy time!

     David S.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:02 PM

No, no glue required other than the tack on the tape. It does require a 2" roll of tape from someplace like WalMart or your local hardware store. It may require more than one piece per section because if it tears or wrinkles you'll have to start over. But its inexpensive and only takes about 4 hours to do from start to finish, including paint. So give it a try, David. If it doesn't work you can pull the tape and just paint it without the vinyl top! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mclovin on Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:12 PM

Nice work so far,just curious how do properly line up the trim that surrounds the vinyl roof?it seems it would be easier to use styrene strips first.It's how i do vinyl roofs,i use .015x.20,then paint using tamiya's matt black with a distance about 10 inches away,i would worry over time using tape it would weaken and then start to peel away.

"to love it ,is to live it"

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Posted by modelcarjr on Friday, August 19, 2016 6:37 AM

Thanks, McLovin! I appreciate your comment! Yes, I haven't described how the trim for the B pillar will be done yet.  I normally do the trim after I get both colors on. Its a little bit trickier, but that way I don't have to worry about paint and tape matting or pulling off the trim with the tape I am using to tape off the two colors.

Your .015" x .020"  trim sounds like a good size, especially for this one as the trim looks flater to me than round. Unfortunately, I don't have any. I am going to use .030" rod which is more rounded. Once both colors are on and I've rubbed out the color coat then I will foil the rod and carefully tack it down with some super glue. Here's one that I did about 8-10 years ago and the tape hasn't lifted and I don't think it will. The rod is a little rough at the very sharp corners at the ends of the B pillar.  I'm sure I'll have a similar issue going over the hill and valley at the back of both B pillars on the Monte Carlo.

I keep my built models in separate cases on book cases in my room to keep them dust free and the same tempurature as the house so the tape shouldn't be affected.

I got a coat of primer on the body in between rain showers after taping off the top. I noticed a rough spot in the middle of the hood that I hadn't seen before. It was very strange, don't know what it was. The hood was in a bag in the box on a tree with other trees in the bag. Maybe another part on another tree rubbed a spot in the hood.  I sanded it out and I think its gone.

The engine has two sink marks - one on the front of the block and one in the transmission pan. The one in front made the front cover and water pump piece hard to mount.  I filled both and sanded them out. The transmission pan needs a little more work.

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by bogger44 on Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:30 PM

That vinyl roof came out looking teriffic, Jr.  Thank for sharing your process of how you did it.  I've seen/heard of many folks using tape, but I've yet to try it (I use styrene strips & paint) but one of these days I think I'll have to give the tape method an attempt.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:47 AM

Thanks, Bogger!  I appreciate your comment! Give it a try! I think you'll like it! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

KWT
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Posted by KWT on Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:34 AM

I like how your top has started out. Definitely gonna follow this, to see where it goes. I may have to try it sometime.

Time well wasted, is not time wasted - John Lennon

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Posted by modelcarjr on Sunday, August 21, 2016 1:59 PM

Thanks, KWT! I appreciate your comment!

Got some paint on it this morning. I had to stop for a brief rain shower and I was concerned that it might be too humid after the shower. But after an hour or so it wasn't too hot and felt OK so I went ahead. Two coats of Testors Nassau Blue Metallic and three coats of Krylon Clear Lacquer.

Then after about 1/2 hour, I pulled the tape very carefully while holding my breath, hoping that I didn't pull any paint. Success!

Only one little spot at the left corner of the top to touch-up where a little black paint was removed. I start rubbing it out tomorrow morning and I'm gonna try just using Meguiars Scratch X and a cloth without using the Micro-Mesh. Looks like a pretty good finish. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by Retro Joe on Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:06 PM
Lovin' it so far! No progress on mine.
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Posted by chucky on Sunday, August 21, 2016 8:07 PM

Looking great, JR! That was THE COLOR for the early Montes. One of my favorite seventies Chevrolets. 

chucky

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Posted by modelcarjr on Monday, August 22, 2016 7:25 PM

Thanks, Joe and Chucky! I appreciate your comments!  Its not Astro Blue but I like to use the Nassau Blue metallic as it is such a pretty color!

I rubbed out the body today using mostly Scratch X. I did use an 8000 micro-mesh cloth is places but primarily using the Scratch X over the entire body 3 times. There are a few reasons why I wanted to try it this way:

  1. Just to see if it would work,
  2. Trying to preserve the gloss and not have to dull the surface just to bring it back again, while still getting the finish even,
  3. Avoid rubbing out the very sharp edges at the top of the fenders and the edges of the bulges in the fenders.

 

So I think I accomplished that and I may go over the body one more time tomorrow morning after letting it sit overnight. I also foiled a piece of .020" rod and glue it in place on the left B pillar using some 5-minute epoxy. I think it looks good. Now to try to go across the back. I'll have to bend it a bit to go over the hill.  Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:50 PM

Finished rubbing out the body and hood and have started some foil. Glued on the .020" rod after foil around the back for the vinyl top. It might have looked better with some flat strip but this will have to do. I'll finish the foil and start on the interior. I think I will do it in blue as well. Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mod3llover on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:57 PM

    Wow, a little chrome trim and that

just looks dazzling!!

Hobby time is Happy time!

     David S.

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Posted by modelcarjr on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:51 PM

Thanks, David! I appreciate your comment!

Still working on the foil and I also painted the engine bay. Here are a few pics.

Other than I haven't foiled the wheel opening trim what else is different about the right side as compared to the left?

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by Retro Joe on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:23 PM
No passenger door lock. (Just went & looked at mine).
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Posted by Retro Joe on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:27 PM
If you've ever used PE parts, you should have some extra keyhole pieces. Now that you brought it to my attention, I will add one.
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Posted by Wayne Farmer on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:26 PM

After I polish with Meguiar's Scratch X I usually finish off with Meguiar's Gold Class paste not using too much..I also use only a flannel cloth for both application and polishing..

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Posted by modelcarjr on Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:34 AM

Thanks, Joe and Wayne! I appreciate your comments! Yes, the right door lock is missing! I do have plenty of extra PE door locks so it shouldn't be a problem but I thought it was strange that they missed that in the manufacturing process years ago. I am using the same Meguiars Gold Glass wax at the moment but I think any good wax for clear coat would work. I'll try some flannel this time as I normally use 100% cotton cloths.

One other thing I would like to mention. I didn't notice the little bit of body color around the edges of the top aound the side windows and the windshield when I first looked at some pictures on the internet. I certainly didn't remember it either. But I don't know that I could have pulled it off anyway with the tape vinyl roof and secondly, I think its ugly! Don't know what Chevrolet designers were thinking - maybe trying to make it look too much like Cadillac trim. Anyway, I like it as it is! Thanks for looking! Cool

If you cannot have a good time, what kinda time can you have? JR

Next on the bench:  Another 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1987 Buick GNX, 1950 Chevy Pick-up, Indy Reynard, 1965 Corvette, probably not in this order.

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Posted by mdlblder on Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:05 AM

VERY NICE JOB!!REMEMBER TO ALWAYS RESEARCH.A VERY FEW OF THESE WHERE SLEEPING GIANTS. CHEVY PUT A FEW LS6 454S IN THESE BEAST.

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Posted by mod3llover on Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:50 AM

     They likely have a piece of gunk stuck in the

mold where the door lock is! LOL!! Confused

     David S.

Hobby time is Happy time!

     David S.

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Posted by peanutgallery on Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:18 PM

JR....I lived in an apartment where I had to paint outside on the patio. In humid or overcast days I would immdeiately bring the part inside and hit with a hairdryer to prevent fogging. Maybe I got lucky, but it seemed to work most of the time

Dennis

 

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