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Re: RE:1:16 scale General Lee WIP... It's all done!!!

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Posted by JM485 on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:33 PM

This is my first work in progress online so sorry if my progress is a bit slow.  I got the recently re-released big scale General for my birthday in April, and have now been working on it for about a month.  This kit has a lot of problems because it is based of of a nascar kit ( not sure why!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bang Head ) so I have had to do numerous modifications and this is my first real experience scratch building.  It has been a bit frustrating so far, but I am happy with my results and I plan to take this to the NNL West show next year, hopefully it comes out good enough.Cool  I plan to make this as realistic as possible so hear it goes and thanks for looking!

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This is about how it will sit, but not exactly because the body is only sitting on the chassis.  As you can see there hasn't been any body work yet.

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The kit has the exhaust incorrectly end at the headers, so I had to make my own out of 1/8 inch steel rod.  The shocks are 1/8 inch OD aluminum tubing with snug fitting aluminum rod slipped inside.  The kit has two shocks for each side which is also not correct for a stock 69 charger and the kit ones were rough at best.  I figured it would look a lot better if I made my own.  The tank straps were made by cutting strips from the frame holding some old photoetched parts and bending them into shape.

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In contrast to the rest of the kit, this motor is probably the best I have ever worked with.  It comes with easy to use plug wires and even the hoses to plumb the motor.  I do think the distributor may be a bit out of scale but for me that is as small issue that I am not very conserned about.

 

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Posted by JM485 on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:37 PM

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I had to make somewhat of a cuppler to ease the transition from the headers to the scratchbuilt exhaust.  Not the best scratchwork but not bad for my first attempt.  There is no oil pan yet because the motor isn't glued in yet and I didn't want to damage the pan's paint during handling.

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The kit came with no back seat so I am in the process of making my own.   Just before this photo I tested the interior color so that is the sloppy paint.

             Thanks for lookin everyone and all comments, suggestion, and questions are welcome.

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Posted by 351gt on Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:04 AM

Looks great so far.

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Posted by JM485 on Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:44 PM

Thank you 351gt!  I hope to have the interior painted by tomorrow and I will try to post some pics.

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:22 PM

looking good.

i've built one and stuck in some scratchbuilt factory items too. to help out, here is my back seat:

if you need more inspiration, here's my entire build

http://www.thepartsbox.com/BB/viewtopic.php?f=251&t=2396

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Posted by JM485 on Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:57 PM

Well guys I got the interior parts painted.  I used testors model master tan and sprayed it through my airbrush.

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side interior panels, dash, and started rear seat.

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Front seats are painted

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And finally, the interior part of the chassis piece is painted.  Please ignore the terrible masking job.

Aussiemuscle308, thank you for posting that link.  I took a look and your general is absolutely incredible and I will definately be using it for reference.  I didn't realy know what to do for the back seat so I tried having my mom needle and thread the patter onto a piece of felt and then gluing it on the seat, but once she started it became clear that it wasn't going to look right; not because of something she did, just because the idea wasn't very bright.Laugh  I think I will go with your method for the back seat.  I don't know what round 2 was thinking when they made this kit.  I expected it to be a bit inacurate and rough, but nothing like this!  I am still enjoying the build though and I hope it comes out as excelent as yours.

Thanks for lookin and all comments and such are always welcome.Wink

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Posted by mdlblder on Monday, June 20, 2011 2:34 PM

waiting to get one ,i have alot of 1/16th stock mopar patrs

 

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Posted by JM485 on Monday, June 20, 2011 8:54 PM

Would that happen to include a back seat and fire wall?

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Monday, June 20, 2011 9:06 PM

Here's something you might like:

http://www.di-namix.com/naglfc/howto.htm

How to build a realistic General Lee.  However, it is in 1/25, but still useful.  On that same site, they also have a couple of built General Lee's in 1/16 that made a great referance when I built my 1/25 General.  BTW, N.A.G.L.F.C. is the North American General Lee Fan Club (they have the 'Model-Building Division Wink)...

http://www.di-namix.com/naglfc/generallee.htm

Hope this helps.  Rock On! Cool

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Posted by JM485 on Monday, June 20, 2011 9:52 PM

SupernovaSS, thank you for posting that link.  I have actually seen that tutorial before and it is very helpful so thank you for showing it to me.  I didn't realize that people had posted their builds on there so that is something I will definately be looking at for reference.  Thanks again.

I hope to have the interior assembled sometime in the next few days.  The back seat is taking a while and still doesn't look good but it is about as good as it will get.  I still need to finish it and do some research for the detail painting so it may be a few days.  I am going on vacation for a few days on Wednesday though so It may be a while before an update if I don't get the interior done by then.  As always, thanks for lookin!

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Posted by D.Baker on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:50 PM

I was hoping that they would have addressed the concerns with this kit and re-worked the molds to make it less "Stock Car" and more "Factory Stock"... I won't be wasting the cash on this one this time around.

You have done an amazing job on it considering what you had to start with.

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Posted by JM485 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:14 AM

Thank you D.Baker, this is definately a rough kit and anyone who plans on building an accurate one like I am is in for some trouble.  This is my first kit above 1/24 scale though so I am learning as I go along and I think the bigger scale is a perfect way to learn scratchbuilding techniques.  You just have to make the most of it.  I never saw the original kit, but I think that all of the pieces molded in white such as the body, hood, and guages are new tooling because they seem much better than the rest of the kit.

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:17 AM

Yes, I think that the kit used to be molded in orange, but Round 2 got enough  umm, calls from modelers that they wanted it molded in white, so that's what they got.  The car is lookin' good so far!  It's always nice to see people building accurate General Lee's.

There is actually a couple of these kit's at my LHS, along with a Revell 1/12 '57 Chevy.  I thought about it, but I think I'll just be happy with my 1/25 General.  If I think about it, I might post some pictures of my General Lee...

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Posted by Charger01 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:46 PM

Very good job so far, especially the engine. I´ll keep an eye on this one.

I´m building one myself but very slowlly, here a pic of what I made in the body..

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Posted by JM485 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:15 PM

Thanks guys!  I am working on scratching the center consol right now so that shouldn't take too long.  I have the back seat done, but it isn't nearly as good as the one previously posted.  I'll try to put some pictures up by tomorrow.

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Posted by JM485 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:17 PM

Well, just as I had the audacious thought that I might be getting good at this scratch building stuff, I noticed that I had a major issue as I test fitted the seat.  I mush have measured the distance I needed for the top piece of styrene with the body in the wrong position because it is just a hair short!Bang Head  I think I am going to have to break off the top part of the seat, replace it with a longer piece of styrene, fill the gaps again, and then repaint.SoapBox  Safe to say I am not thrilled about that!  On a more positive note however, I did manage to start the center consul.  The kit is incorrect here ( surprising isn't it! ), so I decided to make my own and it has gone pretty smoothly so far.

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Here is the gap that the top of that back seat makes with the body.  I honestly don't know how that happened!  Oh well, you live your learn.

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Here is the back seat inside the car.  As you can see, it fits pretty well from this angle.  Not the best scratch building ever but it is the best that I can come up with and I am satisfied.  I am only hoping that it will not be noticeable if you take a look at the car as a whole on a display table.

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Here is the beginning of the center consul.  Not a lot of work done to it yet but it makes a huge difference to accuracy of the interior.

I won't be able to post any progress until this weekend because I will be on vacation.  It is going to kill me to leave that seat issue unsolved but I think a break from building for a few days will be a good thing.  As always, all comments and such are welcome and thanks for lookin!

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:31 AM

I think i see where you went wrong. take another look at mine, i started the front of the seat just in front of the structural beam on the floor. for some reason (?) i made the seat back go all the way to the floor, rather than rely on the seat bottom. Also here the parcel shelf is painted black. I used the 1/25 revell charger for my measurements.

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Posted by JM485 on Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:16 PM

Hi guys, had a great vacation but it is good to be back.  Aussiemuscle308, I honestly don't know how I screwed it up because I put the partially finished seat in ( it was only missing the parcel shelf ) the car, put the body on, took my measurement, then transfered it over and cut the styrene.  I think it was a case of simple mismeasurement.Laugh  Regardless of how it happened, I have since fixed the problem, and only need to paint the seat and center consul, then the interior will be done!Big Smile  After that, I should be able to move on to paint work.

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Posted by c300g on Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:42 AM

little tip for colours. the original general lee had a 383 and the  engine bay/door jams/trunk were painted gold

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Posted by JM485 on Sunday, June 26, 2011 11:23 AM

Thanks for the tip, but I am not building the original.  I have watched a bunch of DOH episodes and I found that the engine bay and trunk were black when they were opened.  I didn't know they were originaly gold though, thanks for the info!  I think they only bothered to paint the outside orange and left the rest of the car whatever the stock color was.  That is just my theory though. . .

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:06 PM

c300g

little tip for colours. the original general lee had a 383 and the  engine bay/door jams/trunk were painted gold

About the engine(s):

The General Lee engines varied widely.  Dodge 318's, 383's, 440's, and 426 Hemi's were used.  The close up cars mostly had 440 Magnums and sometimes a 383.  The jump cars mostly had 318's and 383's, though that really depended on whichever Charger they found Smile, Wink & Grin.  The 426 Hemi was in about 1% of the General Lees, mainly the 'chase cars'.  For the cars that you always saw up close, those for the most part were armed with 440's with the occasional 383.      

Hope this helps!

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Posted by JM485 on Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:26 PM

I figured that the jump cars probably didn't have hemis, but thanks for conferming my thought.  I just went with the kit motor even if it isn't exactly right.  I'm not sure where I can get an accurate replacement but I think the kit motor will be OK for the project.

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:53 PM

SupernovaSS

 

 Dodge 318's, 383's, 440's, and 426 Hemi's were used. 

according to the general lee club, no hemis were used in the tv show. only the recent movies. no 1970 model chargers were used either.

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Posted by JM485 on Monday, June 27, 2011 6:13 PM

Well I FINALLY got the back seat done!Big Smile  Doesn't look as good as Aussiemuscle's but I think it will not be too noticable.  Better than not having one right?

Speaking of the recent movie, you have to love the sound of that hemi when Bo gets on it driving out of Cooter's garage!  That movie is the funniest I have seen in a long time as well!Laugh

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Here is the seat with the center consul.  I'll add more detail to the consul soon and I am working on the boot for the shifter.

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Here is the seat and consul next to the side of the motor compartment.  I only have one side done and I will make the other as soon as I get this one to fit correctly.

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The moment of truth. . .  Yes!!! it fits! 

As always, thanks for lookin!  And keep those comments coming

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:31 PM

JM485
Well I FINALLY got the back seat done!Big Smile  Doesn't look as good as Aussiemuscle's but I think it will not be too noticable.  Better than not having one right?

Right. to be fair, the only difference between yours and mine is i curved it slightly, so don't put yourself down.

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Posted by JM485 on Friday, July 01, 2011 1:20 PM

Well the engine bay is finally done, it just needs paint and the headers on the motor need to be moved around a bit.  Other than that, the trickiest part of the build is done!Big Smile

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Here it is by itself.

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Here it is in the body and on the chassis.  Took a LOT of test fitting but I think it looks great!

I also got the trunk compartment mostly done.  I think I will flock it and hopefully AMT will be nice enought to give me another wheel so I can put a spare in the back along with the jack.

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Trunk by itself

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Trunk in the body.  It makes it a lot harder to get the body onto the chassis but the fit is almost perfect and definately good enough for me.  I will use sheet styrene to fill that gap in the front.

As always, thanks for lookin and keep posting those comments.

 

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Friday, July 01, 2011 5:56 PM

Nice so far.

Do you know what would really dress up that trunk?  You could built a couple 1/16 replicas of Bo and Luke's Bow & Arrows and stick them thereSmile, Wink & Grin!  Don't forget the dynamite! Laugh

Just a thought...

 

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Posted by JM485 on Friday, July 01, 2011 7:56 PM

You know, that is a great idea.   I think I will try that. 

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Posted by JM485 on Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:35 PM

Not much of an update, but I thought I had to post this!  Since Supernova SS gave me such a great idea, I knew I had to use it and make some bow and arrows.  This is only the first one but I think it came out great.  And I didn't forget the dynamite!  I also have the deck lid support cut out and filed.  I think my next step for the project is a lot of paint work.  Thanks for lookin, enjoy, and keep those comments coming.

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Here it is, ready to blow up an old water tower or a full gas can!  Yee Haw!!!!!!!!!!!

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Here is the deck lid and support.  Not super impressive but it is something that will go above the level of average detail for an opened trunk.

Also, I have a quick question.  I am seeing a lot of pictures of General Lees and models that have either an orange engine compartment or a black one.  Which is correct?

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Monday, July 04, 2011 7:47 PM

some nice looking mods there. you might want to build a new dash too, when you get to that.

The engine bays would have been left the cars original color under the hood, since it'd never be seen on screen. but when they have the hood up, it's usually painted orange.

for the trunk, add a vinyl floor pattern mat.

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