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Building the General Lee
Posted by SupernovaSS on Friday, March 18, 2011 9:37 PM

I just got MPC's 1/25 General Lee along with Revell's 1969 Charger R/T.  I will be building the Revell '69 Charger and will be using parts off of the MPC kit to create a well detailed 1/25 General Lee.  Hopefully if I remember to document it, I will post pictures of my progress in this thread.

Below is a picture of the various parts:

Wish me luck! Smile, Wink & Grin

{(Note: Although the confederate flag is indeed on the car, it will NOT be visible in any pictures that are posted.  Since there is a policy in place, and it can be an offensive image, all pictures will be taken either before the flag is placed on the roof, or from an angle so that it can not be seen.)}

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Posted by TED E BEAR338 on Friday, March 18, 2011 10:02 PM

nice work

i say use the flag if people truly new what the flag stands fore they whoiud not be blasting people

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Posted by TED E BEAR338 on Friday, March 18, 2011 10:04 PM

all u have to do with the revell kit is sand the roof the rest of the parts from the mpc kit shoud work

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Monday, March 21, 2011 12:30 AM

i did the same thing. the only bits  used from the mpc kit were the decals and wheels.

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Building the General Lee
Posted by SupernovaSS on Monday, March 21, 2011 10:40 AM

Uppdate.

I've reached an interesting stand-still.  The Revell kit comes with a Dodge 383 V-8 engine.  The General Lee had a Dodge Hemi 426.  From research, I have found out that the 383 and Hemi 426 really aren't that different from the outside.  The MPC kit appears to have a Hemi 426, just not up to Revell standards and detail.  I think I could very well be using parts off of the MPC kit, mainly the valve heads.

Another interesting thing:  The General Lee had an Automatic transmission.  The sound effects say otherwise, but it's true.  Many of the General Lees (Note the plural) had Manuals however, so the car probably will get a manual.

Other than the engine, the car is coming along smoothly.

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Posted by Gooble on Monday, March 21, 2011 11:01 AM

The Revell Charger kit (and all its variations) have a 440 Magnum, but a 440 and a 383 are nearly identical in scale form. The Hemi and big block engines are quite a bit different, technically and visually. But I kind of recall that the General had a 440 no? The movie they did had a Hemi car, but I thought the original series was a 440...

Who'd of figured THAT would happen!?!

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Posted by JM485 on Monday, March 21, 2011 11:34 AM

This looks like a great project.  I have been thinking about doing the same thing so this will be a great reference.  As for the flag, post the pics and if anyone gets offended by a well built model then I don't think we need their negative comments on this forum.  Besides, the car just won't look right and I don't want this thread to turn into a debate about a flag instead of appreciating your project.  Good luck I will be following this build.

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Monday, March 21, 2011 12:29 PM

Gooble

The Revell Charger kit (and all its variations) have a 440 Magnum, but a 440 and a 383 are nearly identical in scale form. The Hemi and big block engines are quite a bit different, technically and visually. But I kind of recall that the General had a 440 no? The movie they did had a Hemi car, but I thought the original series was a 440...

Thanks for the info, I found out some more about the General Lee engines. Smile, Wink & Grin

The General Lees were armed with 383's, 440's 350's and 426 Hemis. Wink The Generals that were wrecked during the jumps and rollovers mostly had 350's and 383's, some with 440's, but the Cars that were used for the 'Close-up' clips had 440 Magnums (a small amount of them were shown with 426 Hemis).  To keep it simple, I'll probably just use the stock Revell engine.

I watched an episode of the Dukes of Hazzard, which had a short part where Bo and Luke were working under the General's hood.  The engine appeared to be a Black 440 Magnum.

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

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Posted by Bullitt3980b on Monday, March 21, 2011 4:53 PM

The hero cars were big block cars but the stunt cars could be 318's or 383's--Hemi cars made up only maybe 1% of production--doubt any made it on the show and the hemi didn't have the "street cred" back in those days

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Posted by TheCat40 on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:33 AM

Very cool. I've done the same thing to build my General Lee. I built mine to represent the first/second season of the General Lee.

It's going to be a challenge but it's going to be fun.

 

Felix "the cat"  =^.^=

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:58 AM

TheCat40

Very cool. I've done the same thing to build my General Lee. I built mine to represent the first/second season of the General Lee.

It's going to be a challenge but it's going to be fun. 

I saw the pictures of yours.  Nice.

Update!

The engine is coming along nicely (even if it isn't painted)Whistling.  Now I have been working on the interior.

Here is the interior with the MPC Roll cage.  As you can see, it is being test-fit, so it is held together with some Tamiya Masking Tape...  Getting the Roll cage to fit has been a bit of a challenge, and it looks like the seats will need to be moved up about 2/5 of an inch for it to fit right.  The reason:  The MPC interior's seats are TINY! Confused They also don't have a headrest.  I'm doing my best to make it work. Smile, Wink & Grin

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

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Posted by 351gt on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:52 PM

Looks good so far. Are you replicating a tv General or one of the movie cars?

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:03 PM

This will be a TV car (not sure about the Season yet...).  In my humble opinion, Thumbs Down to the movies.

[Image removed. No Confederate flags, please.] (Oops)

Below is the rear license plate for the General Lee.  Is is currently in Microsoft Publisher right now, and since I don't have a color printer, I will need to get it printed somewhere...

Something that I noticed, the MPC kit comes with a full roll cage, but TheCat40's General Lee and other General's that I have seen had a single Roll bar behind the front seats.Huh?  Did the General ever have a full roll cage?

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

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Posted by 351gt on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:04 PM

The only TV General Lee that had a full roll cage on screen (other than the stunt cars) was Lee 1 used in the first episode "one armed bandits" . After that they used a single hoop roll bar. It was tan up until the 4th season I belive. After that it was black when they did the "make over" of the General Lee to make all the cars look more consistent. That was when they got rid of all the marker lights, turn signals, back up lights, etc. I "think" it was about this time the went to the wide push bars as well. And the change to light buck skin interior from saddle tan of the earlier seasons.

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:59 AM

In that case, this will probably be a season 4 car. Smile, Wink & Grin

I found a great and detailed resource for those of you that want to do the same thing:

http://www.di-namix.com/ModelCarFiles/howto.htm

This shows everything from scratch-building the roll bar, to creating the proper stance.  It also covers what paint to use.

This is the rear license plate.  It can be printed on cardstock or computer paper and easily stuck onto the car.  Decal paper works to.

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

On the drawing board:  '68 Caddy Deville

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:43 PM

Update!

To make a pure 4th season or so car, I just scratch-built the roll bar.  It is made out of 2 pieces of a parts tree, 2 other pieces off the MPC Roll Cage, and some electrical tape (makes great simulated padding).

I also took the time to sand down the roof of the Revell's body, so now it is nice and smooth (and no longer feels like vinyl).  I still need to get the paint to paint the car and engine, so I'm working mainly in the interior now...

More to come!

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

On the drawing board:  '68 Caddy Deville

On the bench: Monogram USS Voyager NCC-74656 Whistling

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Posted by 351gt on Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:25 PM

Nice work on the roll bar. Are the 2 bars running to the package shelf just bracing the main hoop while it dries? The tv cars just had the main hoop. The movie cars had the braces going back.

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:49 PM

351gt

Nice work on the roll bar. Are the 2 bars running to the package shelf just bracing the main hoop while it dries? The tv cars just had the main hoop. The movie cars had the braces going back.

For the most part.  In my opinion, it looks better standing up. Wink

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

On the drawing board:  '68 Caddy Deville

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Posted by streetrodnut on Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:57 PM

Nice work, Supernova. Btw the original General Lee had a 440 magnum in it. They built and crashed 300 cars in the film. A lot of the stunt cars had 318s as well. Can't wait to see more.

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Posted by 71cougar on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:28 PM

cool build so far.  the correct plates do come in the 1/16 scale reissue, just had mine delivered the other day, need to get one or two more at least

jack

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:34 PM

It's been a while since I've posted an update...  Well I've got one now.

I got some paint onto the exterior body, as well as the engine, and it turned out about as well as it could be...

I also got some Bare Metal Foil onto most of the trim.  This is actually my first time using BMF, Surprise and I am quite proud of the results. Wink For the most part, the rest of what I will be doing for a little while is painting, painting, painting...  More to come..... Shy

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Posted by SLUSHER on Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:49 PM

very nice for your first foil.keep the pictures coming. what color and brand did you use.??..slusher

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Friday, April 08, 2011 10:41 AM

It's been a while, but I have another update...

Slusher, the BMF I think is the Original brand, and it is regular chrome.  I saw at my local Hobby Shop, and felt like trying it out.

I got the engine mostly built.  The body is pretty much ready, but the interior needs a bit more work.  I took a quick picture of the Dodge 440 Magnum V8 that the General Lee will get.

More to come...

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

On the drawing board:  '68 Caddy Deville

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Building the General Lee
Posted by ss454 on Friday, April 08, 2011 4:56 PM

Doesn't look orange to me Confused

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Monday, April 11, 2011 9:46 AM

ss454

Doesn't look orange to me Confused

The Car or the engine???

I didn't have the best lighting, but don't worry.  It's orange. Shy

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

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Posted by 71cougar on Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:02 PM

motor needs a big open element chrome air filter if i remember correctly from the show, but otherwise, thumbs up on the build

jack

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Friday, April 15, 2011 10:51 PM

I have a short update...

It has been a little while since I posted something here, but I have news..

The interior is DONE! Cool The seats fit perfectly with the interior rollbar, and I even installed a CB Radio under the dash panel (I should post a pic or 2).  The windows fit onto the body just fine, and the interior has been cemented to the body as well.  Look almost like a car... Surprise

And now onto hard part number 3:  The Stance of the General Lee.

(The top car shows the modified stance, the lower car is the Stock Revell)

Above is a picture that I got off of The North American General Lee Fan Club's website, so special thanks to them.  As you can see, the Back axle is too far back on the Revell Charger, and the front wheels are up too high.  I have already prepared the back axle by simply moving it forward.  I then trimed the front of the driveshaft about 2mm or so, and that took care of the back wheels.  Now onto the front, which should be interesting.....

More to come.  Wish me luck! Smile, Wink & Grin

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

On the drawing board:  '68 Caddy Deville

On the bench: Monogram USS Voyager NCC-74656 Whistling

Completed recently: '68 Dart GTS

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Posted by bandit2 on Saturday, April 16, 2011 9:15 AM

nice start so far!

i have actually posted a link on another site of what the general lee "should" be!

one thing though it was meant as a race car so there should be no door handles, side marker lights, and the doors should be welded shut!

ill get that link up here in a bit maybe after work for you!

i e it even tells about the other cars mainly uncle jesses pickup, daisys plymouth/jeep, roscoe and enoes patrol car, and yes boss hoggs caddilac!

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Posted by JM485 on Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:30 AM

Car's coming along great.  Nice work on the foil as well.

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Posted by SupernovaSS on Saturday, April 16, 2011 11:16 AM

bandit2

i e it even tells about the other cars mainly uncle jesses pickup, daisys plymouth/jeep, roscoe and enoes patrol car, and yes boss hoggs caddilac!

I would love to build a model of those cars (If I got the chance)! Smile, Wink & Grin

Daisy's Jeep and Plymouth wouldn't be hard at all, as with Rosco and Enos's Patrol Cars. Cool

Uncle Jesse's pickup wouldn't be a challenge, but it would be a bit expensive.  AMT made several late 70's ford pickups, but they were discontinued many years ago, and can go for about $50-70 online. Hmm

Boss Hogg's Cadillac would be a bigger challenge, and too would cost alot.  I know that Johan made a 68 and 70 Deville, which would work.  If you have $125 that you don't know what to do with!Indifferent  There used to be a guy on Ebay, that would make and sell a resin body, interior, and chassis for only $40 each!  Just add an engine, and wheels.  He doesn't seem to be there anymore however.

There is also Cooter's Tow Truck.  It too has been out of production for many years, so it can go for about $100 to $125.Surprise  Airfix, from UK made a model of Cooter's Tow Truck as well, and it is still vintage, but it can cost only $60.  Most of these kits are in UK however. Travel

For now, the General Lee is my main project, but I am looking into a Dukes of Hazzard Diorama which involves the General jumping Rosco's car. Yes

More too come...

Rosco: "My, my. What a horrendous crash. Another one of my vehicle's scuffed."

On the drawing board:  '68 Caddy Deville

On the bench: Monogram USS Voyager NCC-74656 Whistling

Completed recently: '68 Dart GTS

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