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Testors and Model Master spray paint
Posted by 69bronzeT5 on Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:33 PM

I've had bad experiences with Testors' spray paint in the past (bubbling, "fisheyes", major running"...does the Model Master paint do the same thing?

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Posted by Pokey6733 on Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:00 PM

Stay away from Testors Enamel, unless it's the Ultra Gloss Clear.

 Try the Testors Custom Lacquer System, or the new Testors One Coat Lacquer, I have had GREAT luck with them.

 

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Posted by justmike on Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:47 PM

I just used the Model Master paint on my R10 and for lack of a better term it went on O.K. but dried like I had rolled it in sand. Fortunately it is going to polish out pretty good after a gentle sanding with the micro mesh 2400 grit. I find their paints are very inconsistent lately.

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Posted by Pro Crastinator on Friday, February 27, 2009 11:07 AM

Best way is to heat the cans in warm (not hot) water or decant the contents and use in your air brush.  I have found the the MM paint seems a lot thicker than I like.  Heating seems to take care of the thickness and I have better control especially when laying down the final wet coats.  I have never gotten away from sanding and polishing any enamel finish.  I'm moving into the lacquer fan base quickly.  You just have to be careful because some lacquers are really hot.  Lots of dust coats before I cover or move to the wet coats.

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Posted by kevinm on Friday, February 27, 2009 1:50 PM

From my experiences, the best way to apply Model Master (as well as any paint, but especially so with MM) is to do a few light coats. With MM, the first coat probably shouldn't cover every bit of the car. Several light coats seems like the way to go. -kevin

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Posted by del austin on Friday, February 27, 2009 2:26 PM

Best bet (IMO) is to switch to Tamiya spray paint. I ended up giving all my Testors & Model Masters spray cans away and only buy Tamiya now.

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Posted by gbeaird on Friday, February 27, 2009 3:56 PM

justmike

<SNIP>. I find their paints are very inconsistent lately.

 

 

That's what I'd call it, inconsistency.  I have seen the same thing.  Pick up two cans of MM from my LHS, come home spray the same model (different parts) and have the results come out differently for each part.  I have also had some sprayer issues with some cans, like the nozzle is partially-clogged or the pressure is low (new can). I still use them, because when things work, they work well.  I have a can of bright white and yellow that lay down PERFECTLY.  I have a black that I'm about to throw out.  

I have also noticed that the brush-on paint sometimes smells 'old'.  The paint in these bottles also seems a bit thicker.  Perhaps we are getting this 'old' paint in the cans, too?

 Tamiya seems to be a lot more consistent, and lays down nicely, though.

 

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Posted by Pokey6733 on Friday, February 27, 2009 8:02 PM

del austin

Best bet (IMO) is to switch to Tamiya spray paint. I ended up giving all my Testors & Model Masters spray cans away and only buy Tamiya now.

 I'm gonna have to ask, have you guys even tried Testors Lacquers? Lately, I have actually had better luck with Testors lacquers than I have with Tamiya, the Testors definetly covers better than Tamiya.

 Seriously guys, give the Testors Custome Lacquers System and testors One coat Lacquers a shot, you will be pleasantly surprised!

 

I will agree with you guys that Testors Model Master Enamels are pretty much, for lack of a better word, crap, but you guys owe it to yourself to try these new Testors lacquers. I was a non-believer too, but once I tried this stuff, I pretty much stopped buying Tamiya, unless I find a color that Tamiya has that Testors doesn't have.

 Testors FTW! Big Smile

 

 

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Posted by kevinm on Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:37 PM

Yeah, the one coat lacquers great- but only custom colors are sold. No factory colors available in one coat!! -kevin

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Posted by davezinn on Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:23 PM

there are plenty of factory type colors available in the regular lacquer line. i swear by the recent lacquers from Testors, i love them and have had excellent results from all of them.

for brush on colors i have used only the Model Master line for a long time with exception to the color "rubber" from the original line. i have been getting more and more used to the Tamiya acrylics, but it's a learning process and the color selection no where near as wide as Testors is. Tamiya has always provided color ratio mixes for custom colors needed in it's kits.  

the Tamiya spray cans changed at some point. it seems to me that it happened about the same time there was an issue with it in the U.K. the paint seems "softer" now than before and not as durable? still though i really like using it as well as the Testors lacquers.

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Posted by smellyfatdude on Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:34 PM
At least you guys get that fine selection of choosing between
Model Master and Tamiya in spray cans. The lhs here doesn't carry
any of that stuff. If you ask him he says they can't sell lacquer
paint, yet he sells Alclad and does carry the Testors One Coat,
though only the original colors that were introduced and none of
the newer ones that they've since added to it.
And things like Testors metallizers . . . ha, forget it! Sigh
I've come to embrace the Duplicolor paint sold at the local
Ukrainian Tire store. I can usually find something at least close
to a factory color for what I need.
And I agree about the Testors One Coat paint - great stuff.
I've yet to do a bad paint job with them.

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Posted by Pokey6733 on Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:04 PM

kevinm

Yeah, the one coat lacquers great- but only custom colors are sold. No factory colors available in one coat!! -kevin

 That's why I posted the Testors Custom Lacquer paints too, pretty much the same stuff as the One Coat, just as good, if not better anyway. Alot of people don't even give the Testor's Model Master Lacquers a second look, because the cans look so similar to the Model Master enamel paints. Believe me, there is a world of difference.

 Just like Dave, I swear by the recent Testors Lacquers. I rarely use Tamiya anymore, no need.

 

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Posted by justmike on Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:37 PM

Hey there gbeaird. You summed up exactly the problems I've encountered with the enamels. I do have a can of that one coat lacquer by Testors and can't wait to try it. Nice to know its not just me that is encountering these problems. I too am a fan of acrylics and lacquers now

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Posted by zenrat on Monday, March 02, 2009 3:50 PM

I've had no problems* using the Testors Colours by Boyd range of enamels from rattle cans.  Just build up light mist coats and then hit it with a wet coat.
It's usually the pearls i'm spraying over automotive silvers or golds.
I did have a problem airbrushing lime pearl at the weekend but that was because I thinned it too much.

*other than problems due to insects, putting on too much in one go and dust in the shed.

 

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Posted by bear1499 on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:25 PM

does anyone use the real factory colors say from dupont or others can you use basecoat/clearcoat on models

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Posted by johnbuzzed on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:32 AM

I shot the chassis of an AMT/Ertl Chrysler 300 with Testor's custom laquer over their primer with no problem.  I didn't try too hard to get a good finish because it's only the chassis of a shelf model, but it dried pretty smooth and glossy without a clear coat.  I'll be using the same paint on the body, applied with more care and a clearcoat and I think I'll be satisfied with the results.

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Posted by revell68 on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:24 AM

 

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Posted by revell68 on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:31 AM

Testors & Model Master paints are obviously notorious paints.  In addition to using lighter coats, try washing your model in Palmolive dish soap first.   I've always been told to use Dawn but it's all I had in the house the other week and for some reason, it made the old Testor's transparent candy apple red I used on Revell's Baldwin-Motion Camero to go on really smooth.  I had some dust particles to sand out but it laid really nice.   I was very surpised, as was my modelling buddies.   Even if it doesn't go as smoothly as you like.  You can sand it out and apply the Novus system to polish it out.

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Posted by revell68 on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:44 AM

Try this...1st. wash your model in Palmolive dish soap in warm water and let air dry. I was always told to use Dawn but I was out the other week and Palmolive seemed to work better.

2nd. Heat a bowl of water and put your can of paint in it to warm up.  The can should feel like a cup of coffee.

3rd.  Use light coats.

I painted Revell's Baldwin-Motion Camero with an old can of Testor's Transparent Candy Apple Red last week using the above technique and other than some dust particles, it came out soo sweet!(pardon the pun)   My model buddies think I'm the master because I got a Testor's paint job to come out so nice.

To finish it out, I wet-sanded the dust particles out with 2500 sand paper and polished it out with the Novus system and pieces of pre-wash (yet,unused) cloth diapers.  The diapers tend to fray when cut, so I only use them to polish out my models, folding them to keep the frayed ends away from the model.

I'll finish the body out with clear coat after I'm done with the bare metal foil and decals.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by pharr7226 on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:50 PM

 You absolutely can get a great finish with Testors enamels.  I bought into the anti-testors enamel myths until I got a video created by Donn Yost.  Here is a link to his website http://oldmansmodels.com.  I encourage you to check it out.

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Posted by oldcarguy on Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:04 PM

well , the paint gremlin is cropping up again i see . guys, i have used testors spray since i could first buy it and i have had these problems . my solution has always wash , dry , and tack the model and then shoot the spray AFTER warming it first . ALSO i have some now that,s over five years old so the other thing i do ,is although you,ve shaken till you,re eyes rattle ,shake between each shot and you,ll get the paint out without probs . fisheyes etc. still and always indicates an unclean surface and theres been enough written about that to fill a book .when you WARM it don,t put it in a pan of water on the stove . use the hottest from your faucet , that,s the safest way . the problem with MODELMASTER i had ,but the best you can do ,i guess , is to be as finicky as you can be . i have the problem of the small parts not matching the bigger parts in the same spray session . i still haven,t figured a solution to that yet .it does seem to be only with certain colors though      oldcarguy

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Posted by J. Barber on Friday, June 22, 2018 2:47 AM

JMO, I do 100% agree with you! Tamiya has great and outstang finishes. From Bottles to rattale cans if i use those. I always use there white primer because it stands out a ton better on a hit or miss mistake on sanding before as always before paint. I normally airbrush but thats a total different story on how to prepare for.

 

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del austin

Best bet (IMO) is to switch to Tamiya spray paint. I ended up giving all my Testors & Model Masters spray cans away and only buy Tamiya now.

 

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