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A Must-Have Accessory
Posted by BigTallDad on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:39 PM
I typically use a battery operated VSR for a TON of my work. You don't need a major woodworking shop to do this! I built a "cradle" to hold the drill and a "saddle" for the speed control. The crank screws in, via the tee nut, presses into the saddle and increases the speed on the drill. I can go from 15 rpm (on a Makita drill) to the max speed of the drill

When you put the drill in, it looks like this

This is a 4 stage antenna that I turned using the drill/cradle and a Dreml with a grinding bit

Whitewall tires, even the narrow ones, are easy too

As are the nifty stripes on the wheels

"In order to teach a dog, you must first be smarter than the dog" P.R. Ferguson

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Posted by MojoDoctor on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:38 PM
Way to go BigTallDad! Thumbs Up
These photos show an excellent example of what we can do with hand tools. A Dremel can be made into a simple mill with a little imagination.
Thanks for the inspiration.

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Posted by notlezah on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:47 PM
Thumbs Up very clever! I like!Smile,Wink, & Grin
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Posted by JakeCouture on Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:32 PM
That's the best solution to the whitewall problem I've ever seen! A guy could do great things with a cradle like that. Yeah, great things...
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Posted by BigTallDad on Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:57 PM
Jake? This is a dream tool for tires. Take a drum sanding bit for a Dreml and see if the tire will fit (might take some masking tape to get it right). Mount the tire, true it up, then put it in the drill. Rev the drill up and use 320 or so grit to knock down the tread and casting flash. Slow the drill down and, using either a VERY steady hand or a rest, apply paint for whitewalls. For redlines, get a white gel pen and a red one. Lay down a base of white, then hit it with the red.

Try mounting the top of an air cleaner in the chuck, then paint stripes around it; works for oil filters, wheels, blah blah.

I put a short piece of spring steel in the chuck and, starting from thinnest to thickest, used a Dreml with a grinding bit to create that four-step antenna (complete with button) on the '55. Try getting that realism with the standard plastic part that has the casting flash!

Let me know how that works for you

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Posted by gratch73a on Friday, March 04, 2005 9:27 AM
What an ingenius idea.
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Posted by lscrima on Friday, March 04, 2005 5:58 PM
BTD,

Nice job and simple to make. I'm sure that drill has more than enough torque for doing simple lathe work.
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Posted by darkwanderer on Friday, March 04, 2005 6:12 PM
That's a great idea. Thumbs Up
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Posted by BigTallDad on Friday, March 04, 2005 7:31 PM
The cradle was originally built for a 9.6 v Makita drill. After the first hurricane, we lost power for 4 days and,when it returned, I checked the outlets and they were at 183 volts (bad neutral wire on the pole) which ate my charger. Makita said I could get a new charger for $49

For $59, I got the Hitachi, which has two speeds and yes, that puppy has more than enough torque for low speed operation. If you extend the concept, mount that cradle on a piece of wood, mount a tail-stock, and you have a lathe.

Right now I'm considering the use of a Dreml drum sanding bit sans the paper, and resting the fixture on a Lazy Susan centerpiece. I could paint very large pieces in that configuration.

Seriously folks, if you have a battery operated VSR, ya gotta make one of these cradles! When you couple it with a Dreml and a sanding/grinding bit, or a paint brush/gel pen, the opportunities are endless.

"In order to teach a dog, you must first be smarter than the dog" P.R. Ferguson

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Posted by Southgate on Friday, March 04, 2005 10:57 PM
Seriously, BigTallDad, I see I have a project ahead of me. Shouldn't take long to turn my Makita cordless drill into a "new" modeling tool. Thanks for sharing. Dan
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 04, 2005 11:34 PM
Awesome idea!!
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Posted by hot ford coupe on Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:35 AM
I did mine a bit differently. I took a regular variable speed Dremel Motortool, hung it from the ceiling and bought one of the small handpiece attachments. I forget what it's called but it's the one with the cable to a smaller working size so you can hold it easier. Then I got a vise which attaches to my work table without screws etc., clamped the handpiece in the vise tightly and then I use it as a lathe. It works very wel. I have been able to make brake drums, hubcaps, axles and more. I use a very sharp set of small wood chisels and then a sanding stick. I've also bought the Dremel plunge router and turned it into a milling machine. Finally, I picked up a routing table which I have rigged up to use like a drum sander. I'm a scratchbuilding nightmare now. I'll take some photos of the set up so you all can see it. It's not expensive and way less than a lathe and milling machine which would set me back about $1500 buckeroos. I dont' think I even broke $300 bucks.
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Posted by tadkins796 on Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:09 PM
This just goes to show, what a person can come up up, when the need for a new tool comes up. Good Job!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:43 PM
hnmmm....now I have an excuse to go buy that new cordless drill I've been eyeing at Home Depot...
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Posted by BigTallDad on Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:57 PM
nascar, before you buy that drill, check to see how much fore/aft (or in/out) movement there is at the chuck. If it's too sloppy, pass on that drill

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 06, 2005 5:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BigTallDad

Jake? This is a dream tool for tires. Take a drum sanding bit for a Dreml and see if the tire will fit (might take some masking tape to get it right). Mount the tire, true it up, then put it in the drill. Rev the drill up and use 320 or so grit to knock down the tread and casting flash. Slow the drill down and, using either a VERY steady hand or a rest, apply paint for whitewalls. For redlines, get a white gel pen and a red one. Lay down a base of white, then hit it with the red.

Try mounting the top of an air cleaner in the chuck, then paint stripes around it; works for oil filters, wheels, blah blah.

I put a short piece of spring steel in the chuck and, starting from thinnest to thickest, used a Dreml with a grinding bit to create that four-step antenna (complete with button) on the '55. Try getting that realism with the standard plastic part that has the casting flash!

Let me know how that works for you


the paint you're refering to is actual automotive white wall paint? are you getting that from some where like Eastwood Co. for automotive restoration supplies or auto detail shop?

walt
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Posted by BigTallDad on Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:57 PM
After learning an ugly lesson with oil-based enamels (they will NEVER completely dry) I use garden-variety acrylic paint for the whitewalls. Although I used to paint whitewalls on 1:1 tires as a kid, I'm not sure you can even find that paint anymore.

"In order to teach a dog, you must first be smarter than the dog" P.R. Ferguson

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Posted by thunderbearr on Monday, March 07, 2005 10:00 AM
Send me the plans. I'll patent it and make money. Big Smile
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 21, 2005 6:25 PM
BTD and all,

While I've been pondering making the great drill jig that BTD made, I ran across this item at Rockler Wood Supply store:


It probably costs more ($19.99) than the materials to build BTD's jig, but in 6 months I haven't found the time to build it, so I took the easy road and bought this.

Now I can do my tires!
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Posted by lordairgtar on Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:52 PM
BTD, good old white latex house paint works great for whitewalls. Dries nicely.

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Posted by signmike on Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:40 PM
Gee, I'm I happy I look into this thread. What a great idea.
Will surely build one...amazing
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:10 PM
I've got a miniature bench vise I bought in an old hardware store, 40 years ago, that has a set of jaws below the normal flat ones, for holding pipe. It also will take a Dremel tool easily, as long as I don't get crazy and snug it in too tight. Works great when I think to use it.

Thanks, BigTallDad, for reminding me to use it again sometime (mebbe on a part or two for the Hupmobile?)

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Posted by signmike on Monday, November 13, 2006 2:06 PM
Super great stuff in here. I'm glad I kept reading
Signmike, Michel Maheu
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Posted by pepperdrumstix on Friday, June 08, 2007 3:31 AM
Great build BTD!!! If we hadn't already seen the car here it would make a great "Is it real or a model" post by Harry. I will be looking at these photos when I build mine. I thought you had done those pinstripes on the wheels with a lathe type device, but I thought you painted the wheels, then turned them on the lathe and used a small metal thing to scrape the paint off for your pinstripes. Then I read how you did it and I will mount my drill up like that to make and paint parts now. THANKS BTD! PATRICK
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Posted by wagoneer on Friday, June 08, 2007 5:41 AM
That's great BTD, I can't wait to get home and knock one up for my drill now. I've just recovered a great bearing from a vacuum cleaner that I could use as a stock holder for the other end of the lathe idea as well.
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Posted by najohns2 on Friday, June 08, 2007 7:47 AM
BTD, you are an evil genius!!!

Thanks pepperdrumstix for bringing this post back to the top!
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Posted by oldcarguy on Monday, July 01, 2013 8:12 AM

I have to add two cents here .

  You are definitely a craftsman .That and you picked my brain I am sure .I built one of those years ago to use for drilling out shaft entry holes for ships .The drill I had is kaput because of a battery style change .I modified it to fit a new drill and go like a " Blue Streak " now . Job well done .   oldcarguy

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Posted by BigTallDad on Monday, July 01, 2013 8:20 AM

Thank you. I originally posted that over eight years ago (WOW! Have I been on here that long?) and my drill charger was damaged in the aftermatch of hurricane Charlie, thus a different drill.

"In order to teach a dog, you must first be smarter than the dog" P.R. Ferguson

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Posted by oldcarguy on Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:41 AM

YEAH BUT :

   See , you still didn't give up didja ? Good on you . I look forward to what you post .You keep waking up these seventy year old grey cells .Thank You !     Oldcarguy

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Posted by signmike on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:49 PM

That's just ingeneous.

Signmike, Michel Maheu

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