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Posted by massmodeler on Monday, February 25, 2019 5:34 AM

To attract younger kit builders to our hobby, we will need to bring back more snap together kits to the market. Today's young people are seldom interested in spending days and weeks painting and assembling one model kit. Easy to build kits molded in color is how to get kids into our hobby.

It's all very well for us old fogies to fret over installing spark plug wires on a scale engine or worrying about whether we can paint it an authentic factory color, and how to spend hours and days buffing out the paint, but that WILL NOT get new customers to enter the market.

When I was 5 years old, I began with AMT's Craftsman series kits, then advanced later. Sadly, I see that building plastic kits today has become an expensive and time consuming effort and that model car magazines and older  kit builders seem to focus on micro details while ignoring the need to get more young people involved.

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Posted by Oldschool4x4 on Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM

Why? Why try and force something on someone? NO one had to coax me into the hobby, if they had, I probably would have rebelled. If they want to build, they will. My two cents.

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  • From: Brighton England
Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Monday, February 25, 2019 7:24 AM

If ahem ...'modern technology' were to also be used , say an app for decal design or wheel choice , A fully DIY crafted & designed "vehicle" .

Imagine the possibilities .

3D printed cost effective perhaps

Ok some taste limitations should be employed I guess , Over on holiday I saw these

"mall donks" and I still have nightmares ....... It was beige as well . Hmm 

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Posted by 195X on Monday, February 25, 2019 4:18 PM

Nothing wrong with snaps. They're great slump busters and as mentioned above, great for kids. But the issue is not whether to take the tact of certain nefarious companies and "get'em while they're young", but the plethora of electronic stimuli. The only thing going to get any child interested in anything, is themselves. Either they see dad enjoying himself at the bench and want to join, or they play Grand Theft Auto.

Then of course there's the 3D medium. So much of our lives is button pushing that anyone with the capacity to operate a simple microwave, can point, click and print almost anything. MOST of them today, would rather take the time to draw a car in cad and print it in multi colors, then thumb their nose at dad and go back to the computer. 

Will this lack of enthusiasm in our youth eventualy be the demise of the hobby? In no way shape or form will modeling be cancelled due to lack of interest. As long as there are cars, people will find a way to build miniatures of them.

From The Great Race to Herbie the Love Bug, Christine and every incarnation of Batmobile you can dream of, we are a car-centric society. We love to create gigantic earth movers and tiny motorcycles. we engineer autonomous vehicles and straight line, salt flats racers. Our ingenuity knows no bounds yet.

Furthermore, we are so proud, enthused and delighted with our own machinery, that in our spare time we make miniature replicas of them for fun. How do we get children in on the fun? Let them grow.

Because little boys and girls tend to become big boys and girls, with memories. More than a few (even here I'm willing to bet) were drawn into the hobby later in life, because someone they were fond of built models when they were young. "It's the CIR-cle of liiiiiiiiiiiife" ;)

My favorite color is clear. I am also ambidexterous, I can screw up equally well with either hand. I am 53 years old and been building for most of that time. :)

On the bench... somewhere. Pink Panther show car, 1978 Dodge Magnum Charger Daytona Midnight edition SE 300. Mongrel T.

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Posted by 195X on Monday, February 25, 2019 4:19 PM

Spencer Mopar Fan

If ahem ...'modern technology' were to also be used , say an app for decal design or wheel choice , A fully DIY crafted & designed "vehicle" .

Imagine the possibilities .

3D printed cost effective perhaps

Ok some taste limitations should be employed I guess , Over on holiday I saw these

"mall donks" and I still have nightmares ....... It was beige as well . Hmm 

 

Never look directly at a donk! I thought you knew that?! ;)

My favorite color is clear. I am also ambidexterous, I can screw up equally well with either hand. I am 53 years old and been building for most of that time. :)

On the bench... somewhere. Pink Panther show car, 1978 Dodge Magnum Charger Daytona Midnight edition SE 300. Mongrel T.

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  • From: Kennesaw, GA
Posted by nick63 on Monday, February 25, 2019 9:57 PM

77 Jeep CJ7 by Revell. is it molded in white ?

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Posted by massmodeler on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 9:50 PM

How sad that ALL of you missed the point here. You are all helping to kill our hobby.

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  • From: Kennesaw, GA
Posted by nick63 on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:15 PM

Your point is well taken and most people would get the point. I am a long time model builder and now and then a Snap Kit is fun to tweak and do in short order. We live in a different time zone now than when we grew up. No computers, sometimes no TV. We had to create things and be innovative and model kits at the 5 and Dime store were a great way for a rural kid to have some fun, figuring out how to build and paint a model.

Sadly today, the generation has grown up with a controller in hand and expects everything ready made and easy. Flooding the market with Snap kits and stick on decals won't really get young people into the hobby. With all the gizmos and technology of today, they really don't care about model cars. Buying a die cast painted model is easier for them. In a way I am sorry they won't have the joy we had in learning and creating better models. There was a time when a trip into town on the weekend was an adventure and buying a model kit from mowing grass was a big deal. So keep on building but I think it is like pulling teeth to get young people into the hobby now.Automobile

massmodeler

How sad that ALL of you missed the point here. You are all helping to kill our hobby.

 

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  • From: Atlanta GA
Posted by Zoom Zoom on Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:40 AM

This rings very true and Fujimi is doing a new line of very innovative high-detail snap kits that are exactly the kind of thinking you envision, they are molded perfectly in color (you can't polish a paint job as nice as the surface finish on the plastic and the color is dense), go together without the need of glue or paint, have many separate parts (108 in my Mazda Flair, 119 in my upcoming build of the Toyota FJ Cruiser). Fujimi started a few years ago with a couple of revisions of their glue Mini Cooper and Fiat 500, but have branched into more current JDM subjects like current modern small CUV's and minivans, the FJ Cruiser is their newest and most familiar with folks here in the US and they have a new Suzuki Jimny coming soon that's the modern equivalent to our older Suzuki Samurai. Looks like the FJ's instrument panel can be easily converted to LHD and I look forward to building it as my experience building the Mazda Flair for the recent 24 hour build was so positive. Now if a company on this side of the pond would take the hint...Revell could use some serious pointers but it remains to be seen what the future lies from them. Round2 is too focused on nostalgia. Airfix has some neat 1/24th snap kits that look good and are simplified and go together like Legos. Revell Germany's kits for kids are to me too dumbed-down in subject as they are generic. Below is my Fujimi Mazda Flair...I did paint the body for the 24 hour challenge, adding a pearl clear and then clear over the yellow body, and detail painted some of the parts. Neat kit! It comes with stickers (that are very well done) and decals. The emblem stickers are almost as good as the metal transfers. Now if someone would do a new Ford Raptor, Jeep Renegade, Mustang GT350, Corvette Z06/Grand Sport/ZR1, maybe Tesla Model S and Model 3 (add electric motor and battery?!), Porsche 991/992 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS, Ferrari 812 Superfast, Pista...subjects that grab attention to the young and young at heart there might be some hope. Aoshima has a line of pre-painted kits from their regular lineup and the quality of paint is great; not just the bodies but also interior/chassis details as well, you don't have to use paint at all except for touchup on visible areas where the painted part is removed from the sprue.

Zoom Zoom, aka Bob Downie My Fotki Album The only cure for modeler's ADD is "final assembly and decal placement"
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  • From: Menasha, Wisconsin
Posted by mcmainstribe on Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:47 PM

My kids were not big into electronics, but they just did not click with models either, they all found their own things.  However my stepson who is very big on his tablet and games is excited about working on models with me, so it sometimes just depends on the kid.  I think sometimes it is not the electronics as much as our society does not place as much value on creativity and imagination as it used to and these are things that are key to building models. Kids always seem to need to know "the rules".

Larry

"I got me a '67 Chevy she's low and sleek and black. Someday I'll put her on that interstate and never look back." Steve Earle
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Posted by Oldschool4x4 on Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:03 PM

massmodeler

How sad that ALL of you missed the point here. You are all helping to kill our hobby.

 

REALLY? but like you said, "our" hobby. Its just not for everyone, or do you not understand that?

 

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  • From: Kennesaw, GA
Posted by nick63 on Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:08 PM
Amen. Nice Job Bob
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  • From: UK
Posted by PatrickW on Friday, March 01, 2019 1:51 AM

Super Flair Crossover Bob. One of my Christmas gifts was the new Revell Lightning McQueen Snap Kit, in 1/24 scale...

I'm looking forward to getting started on this one. Plenty of chassis detail, two sets of stickers and decals, so a choice there.

Manufacturers, can we have more of them please, at 70 and having built since I was eight years old, snap kits are providing that extra element to building. 

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Posted by gulftarpon on Saturday, March 02, 2019 12:08 PM

I think the model car kit industry is kind of following the car industry in general. The majority of people don't have a passion for cars. If they think of them at all, they think of them as transportation modules. There are niches where that passion and interest still thrives, but the majority of people wouldn't even think of building a model of their Oldsmobuick Canyonero. The model kit industry can survive, but it will have to learn to do so on smaller margins and it doesn't help that the car industry's licensing seems to be designed to keep the kit producer's locked out. It should be a symbiotic thing. The auto industry should want their vehicles in every movie or TV show and they should be pursuing tie-ins with the kit manufacturers to make 1/24th versions of those vehicles with all sorts of cool extra parts in order to create interest in driving and personalizing our cars. Instead they seem to have created a self-defeating bureaucracy to make it harder to work together.

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Posted by oldcarguy on Sunday, March 03, 2019 12:45 PM

Ah , To Snap or Not to Snap .

    I have about probably twenty of the things. I have come across , back in the eighties and onward , some of the most fascinating vehicles this way. I don't have shelf room for 1/25 Semi/Truck/Trailer kits . Enter Good old Monogram .Five nice rigs .Well detailed and marked .Yeah , so the markings were stickers .Who cares ? I don't.

       I don't model to build the most accurate or authentic car , truck or big machinery to say look how much time and aftermatket money I spent on this .I build for the fun of it .Snaps ? Bring them on .Now that said , I do prefer unpainted ones .Yeah, I know I can strip the paint . Monogram did many Glue andSnap kits that all you had to do was polish and assemble .What's wrong with that ? I can get more built and get more fun for less money .Living on retirement this is a fact .Every dollar has to count ! Models have to fit , but they shouldn't take up six months of the modeling budget either . Snape , Bring them on ,I am ready ! OCG 

 

gjgeracci

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