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Custom Diecast builds
Posted by nutsfortrucks on Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:56 PM

How does the community feel about the use of diecast materials to build custom 1/24 versions of autos/trucks. I use whatever is the best starting point avilable for a paticuler build. I chose 1/24 pickup trucks, all makes.  

Jeff Hudkins

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Posted by Alcopa1 on Monday, March 06, 2017 5:52 AM

Hi

      Don't know how other guys feel but I've been using diecast components for years on my train stuff , just haven't seen a lot of it for 1/25th scale cars and trucks....lots of resin & photoetch but no real zinc die cast.  Using assembled die cast cars/trucks and rebuilding them completely to create something that didn't exist before also doesn't bother me as it still represents modelling . Hubley used to produce full kits in zinc die cast which required full painting and detailing essentially the same processes as a plastic kit .....could be this is just a discussion over materials?.... I've used wood in some instances the trick is making it undetectable.

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Posted by Bainford on Monday, March 06, 2017 8:35 AM

I have never subscribed to the idea that there is no room for die cast in our hobby. When building a 'plastic' kit I use all manner of materials to get the job done. Die cast materials are just another useful material. I personally don't care for pre-assembled die cast shelf models, but on several occasions I have considered them as the starting point for a project when plastic is not available.

A model car, regardless of material, is still a model car.

Power matters in the straights.
Lightness matters everywhere. - Colin Chapman

Trevor

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Posted by High octane on Monday, March 06, 2017 10:28 AM

I have a number of die-casts vehicles from the Danbury and Franklin Mints, they are just beautiful. I know that there are a number of modelers out there who will change, or customize die-cast cars & trucks in many different scales and a lot of them come out lookin' really nice. To each their own.

High octane

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Monday, March 06, 2017 11:02 AM

High octane

I have a number of die-casts vehicles from the Danbury and Franklin Mints, they are just beautiful. I know that there are a number of modelers out there who will change, or customize die-cast cars & trucks in many different scales and a lot of them come out lookin' really nice. To each their own.

 

I agree with High Octane Thumbs Up. In fact, I am one of those people and started using diecast parts and doing entire diecast customs 15 or 16 years ago, and have continued to this day. There are such nice versions out there not available in plastic kits, and there are wonderful diecast parts of great quality that can be used on plastic custom builds.

This is a custom built 1957 Pontiac Safari wagon  that I built in 1/24 scale using a diecast Pontiac convertible and a 1956 Chevy Nomad fom Danbury Mint and Franklin mint and lots of body filler Smile, Wink & Grin.

I love Mecum Auctions and Barrett/Jackson auctions.

I bought all the model stuff I wanted for Christmas because no one else would spend that much on me Laugh Laugh

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by Jim G on Monday, March 06, 2017 2:46 PM

I have a specific reason to have recently ordered a diecast "kit":

I absolutely love '32 Ford 3-window Coupes with chopped roofs (about a 3" chop is ideal!), and I love to build in larger scales like 1/16 because there is opportunity for more detail in a larger scale and a larger scale optimizes my marginal skills!

But, there are no large scale '32 3-window chopped roof kits out there (I have looked extensively). But, it tursn out that Acme Diecast sells not only competed car modesl, but also kits, and one of their offered kits is a 1/18 scale '32 Ford Coupe, 3 window, with a chopped roof!  So I recently ordered one from their next build (expected within the next few weeks).

I also figure that trying a metal kit will be a different experience for me, and I look forward to that!

Jim G

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Posted by gulftarpon on Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:39 PM

I prefer plastic, but for what ever reason, diecast manufacturers will often offer models that plastic manufacturers have never even considered. That alone makes it okay in my eye. Choosing to do only plastic limits your options.

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Posted by Jim G on Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:53 PM

Iterestingly, among "1 to 1 scale" builders of Deuce Coupes, "real steel" is by far the preference over fiberglass, despite the cost of a restored real steel body being so much higher than that of a fiberglass replica body.

I think that maybe a lot of it has to do with the restored steel bodies inherently containing real "history" where the reproduction firberglass bodies obviosuly do not.

The same reasoning applies to Uzi subguns - the genuine Israeli Uzis made by IMI in Israel sell for MUCH more than the technically superior modern reproductions made by Vector in The U.S. do.

So, maybe the diecasters will adopt the same "real steel" phrase . . . :)

Jim G

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Posted by ambman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:41 PM

Just finished 1960s nyc ambulance METRO using the first gear diecast .Custom decals from computer .The plastic companies still dont get it,life goes beyond mustangs 57 chevy corvettes.

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Posted by BERT100 on Monday, March 13, 2017 3:13 AM

Belated 2 cents worth.  I too had questioned if die cast was a basis for "serious" modeling.

I decided "Oh, Heck Yes".  It’s just another material, not something from the 5th ring of Saturn and as previously stated the  availability ofso many various models is intense.

 

         Steve

We loves our models,  we do.

 

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:12 PM

" what ever floats ya' boat " friend !

Anything goes in my book .

I've just done a "bare metal 66 corvette...."

 think about it....

might do rust patches next , ' cos  I'm weird like that Devil

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:13 PM
I do hot wheels mods too.... shhhhh! LOL
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Posted by Retro Joe on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:16 PM
I agree with all of the comments above! Personally, if you are rebuilding/customizing a diecast, it is just as rewarding as a plastic or resin kit. Using parts, bodies, etc. to enhance or create a custom kit is great, too. I also have a handful diecasts for displaying, but would never try to pass those collectibles off as something I've built myself.
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Posted by peanutgallery on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:28 PM

To add to this discussion...Will parts from 1:24 scale plastic model kits be close in size as the parts on a 1:24 diecast model?  I know the bodies are slightly different do to the thickness of plastic vs metal

Dennis

 

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Posted by trainwreck on Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:47 PM

I've got 3 or 4 Speccast diecasts in my crosshairs but none of them seem to be as important as the money it would take to obtain them. Trainwreck.

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Posted by gulftarpon on Friday, March 24, 2017 11:57 AM

I don't see any problem with diecast. They add diversity to what is available. Plastic kit makers tend to be content to huddle in a safe circle rarely venturing past the next new tool of a '69 Camaro or a Chevelle or another '69 Charger. The diecast companies seem a bit more willing to take a chance. I just wish they would take all those cool 1/64th and 1/18th scale models that I keep seeing and do 1/24th versions of them!

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Friday, March 24, 2017 12:36 PM

I've seen list after list in this section, of car kits that modelers here would like to see manufactured. There has probably been over a thousand mentioned over the years. So why not get "Real" here and realize that all the combined manufaturers couldn't produce a fraction of the model kits people want.

In all reality the diecast and resin manufacturers have done us a real favor over the years, to fill in area's that need some attention, and give us a variety of wonderful kits we would have never seen otherwise.

For me I'm grateful for all the many thousands of plastic kits that have been produced over the last nearly 60 years.

I just can't figure out why people continually complain about kits NOT produced, when, if you look at Ebay and see well over 100,000 kits for sale and the variety that is just stunning, well....maybe some people will never be satisfied with what's available Bang Head, or for that matter, maybe complaining about EVERYTHING is their life.

Me...I have more than I ever believed I could accumulate and am forever grateful and soundly happy - No complaints here Big Smile Thumbs Up.

I love Mecum Auctions and Barrett/Jackson auctions.

I bought all the model stuff I wanted for Christmas because no one else would spend that much on me Laugh Laugh

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by gulftarpon on Friday, March 24, 2017 4:10 PM

Shopping eBay is a good option if you are careful and lucky. I usually prowl it for old and used kits. It's what I do once a year when we get finished with taxes. I usually get a $100 or $200 allowance from the SO. A or so week before we get it back, I decide what I want. Then I pare that down to what I really want. Then to what I want if the price is right. Finally I get a list of a few kits and start watching them. Other than that I supplement with clearance kits at HL and the occasional splurge at the LHS.

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Friday, March 24, 2017 5:18 PM

Here Here Dave ! I use what I can get anything goes in my book!

A lil point here too: regarding the previous comment about is 1:25 diecast the same as 1:25th plastic..... er...hmmmm... thickness of material maybe , but thats sort of like asking if a ton of bricks is heavier than a ton of fluff . Its a ton ....

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Friday, March 24, 2017 6:12 PM

Spencer Mopar Fan

Here Here Dave ! I use what I can get anything goes in my book!

A lil point here too: regarding the previous comment about is 1:25 diecast the same as 1:25th plastic..... er...hmmmm... thickness of material maybe , but thats sort of like asking if a ton of bricks is heavier than a ton of fluff . Its a ton ....

 

What a great comment Thumbs Up.

I'm still laughing LaughLaugh

I love Mecum Auctions and Barrett/Jackson auctions.

I bought all the model stuff I wanted for Christmas because no one else would spend that much on me Laugh Laugh

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by realhighpockets on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:41 PM
I purchased a number of NASCAR diecasts to strip and repaint so I could replicate cars never offered for sale and add to my collection. I did this because the quality, low cost and availability of the diecast verses modifying existing plastic kits or buying/modifying expensive resin aftermarket kits.

"Before they invented drawing boards, what did they go back to?" George Carlin On the bench: Could be anything, I have so many things started and put away I don't even know what I'll pick next.

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Posted by Spencer Mopar Fan on Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:28 PM

Dave, we should bow our heads in utter shame in implying Dennis can't . Sorry , can not  see the funny side of the "comment" that I wrongly implied upon .

Hes really p**sed at me

Oh dear . My manners are slowly drifting towards the D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. sector of todays er.... whatever !

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:37 PM

Guess I didn't know you two were "Flaming". I was just enjoying the funny comment - at least it was to me. I hadn't read any other posts before that - MY BAD. Guess I stepped in it.

I love Mecum Auctions and Barrett/Jackson auctions.

I bought all the model stuff I wanted for Christmas because no one else would spend that much on me Laugh Laugh

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by djflyer on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 4:22 PM

In reply to the original post I would have to say absolutley no problem with using diecasts. I have noticed recently an increasing number of subjects coming out in diecast that have been on plastic kit "wanted" lists for years, and also a bunch of things that I never that I would see any replica of. An increasing numbe of diecasts have details that kits dont even have. I bought a Maisto 350Z to get the underhood detail for a kit I have been building.

If it fills that void on your shelf - either out of the box or customized - then definitely get it.

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