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NO MORE PANEL LINE SCRIBERS
Posted by ambman on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:40 PM

As you all know ,well at least i do ,that panel line scribers dont work ,at least in my world .Recently i discovered while playing with the computer that ,a more simple answer has been found.Go to PAGES then LINES.You can make very thin lines that can print then put them on decal paper.Apply and instant lines .Great for when converting 2 door to 4 .Of course this is a subject that has always bothered me .Very few 4 doors .SCRIBING PANEL LINES IS LIKE A DRUNK WALKING,AT FIRST ITS STRAIGHT THEN IT GOES OFF TO THE SIDE..

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Posted by 195X on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 9:03 PM

I think I get what you're saying, but the whole thing for me in building a model is that it's a 3d painting as well as puzzle.. sort of. I don't think a decal would satisfy me, I would have to have the physical groove. It is a good idea and a time saver though. Bet somebody gives it a try.

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Posted by ambman on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:06 PM

If you make it very light it looks good

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Posted by Goofy62 on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:16 PM

I guess my main question is, why is this posted in the "Factory Stock" section?

Seems like a subject better suited for the "Builders Corner" or under one of the "Tips & Techniques" areas.

 

Steve

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Posted by ambman on Thursday, February 16, 2017 5:59 PM

I guess thats up to scale auto,but its still a good method

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Posted by Goofy62 on Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:05 PM

I have no issue with your method, I just fail to see why it wound up in the Factory Stock section.

A little organization helps the members find the information they are looking for.

If we are just going to haphazardly throw posts any old place, there is no point in having catagories.

We would only need one "general" section.

Just something to consider.

 

Steve

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Posted by Plowboy on Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:36 PM

I don't see how one could print a line as fine as a panel line on decal paper and successfully apply it on a model. Doesn't seem much different than black washed panel lines. I would like to see an example of this method.

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Posted by ambman on Saturday, February 18, 2017 7:10 PM

All I can say is try it.You can make dozens of lines with the computer on one page.Very thin is the best,because it does not look out of place or  bulky.

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Posted by ambman on Saturday, February 18, 2017 7:14 PM

A wash panel line would not work because it would now go back to 2 door .The whole idea is to put the line where you want after filling in the old line and sanding.If you have some spare decals,like aircraft lines try it.

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Sunday, February 19, 2017 10:50 AM

Seems like your thinking on these decals kind of defeats the idea of developing new skills, and building something to scale and lifelike, but if it's something you want to do, I see no problem with it.

Go for it ambman and see how you like it. 

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Posted by Plowboy on Sunday, February 19, 2017 11:55 AM

ambman

All I can say is try it.You can make dozens of lines with the computer on one page.Very thin is the best,because it does not look out of place or  bulky.

 

 

Can you post photos of a model with the panel line decals? I'm really curious to see what it looks like. Although, I can't imagine it having a very realistic look to it as even black washed panel lines don't have a realistic look to them. 

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Posted by Goofy62 on Sunday, February 19, 2017 12:48 PM

Plowboy

 

 
ambman

All I can say is try it.You can make dozens of lines with the computer on one page.Very thin is the best,because it does not look out of place or  bulky.

 

 

 

 

Can you post photos of a model with the panel line decals? I'm really curious to see what it looks like. Although, I can't imagine it having a very realistic look to it as even black washed panel lines don't have a realistic look to them. 

 

That is my thought.

Black panel lines are pretty much a no-no, especially on a light color.

So unless you're printing your panel lines in colors other than black, I see little sense in it.

I don't think you're going to find much support for this kind of technique.

Not that you should stop doing it if you find it useful, but I doubt you will find many modelers who will use it.

 

Steve

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Posted by hack-n-whack on Monday, February 20, 2017 12:43 PM

Just wondering; Would that work for pinstripes too?   Thanks.   Hack-n-Whack

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Posted by ambman on Monday, February 20, 2017 6:43 PM

They dont have to be black .A light gray works just fine.Doing this hobby can at times be fustrating,and by sitting there tring to scribe lines is not my idea of fun.I saw a beautiful converted 2 door to 4 police  black and white at l.I.A.R.S. model show on long island this year and the builder used pinstripe for panel lines ,and it looked just great.Or the model companies can be nice and build more 4 doors.2days ago came back from toy fair in ny.I talk to these companies about more 4 doors and all they can do is submit the idea,but as you know it rarely goes far.the only one who does have a interest was Mr lowe from hawk lindberg.Now this is a guy who is a plus for the hobby and  has interest in what you say.

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Posted by Goofy62 on Monday, February 20, 2017 6:53 PM

ambman

They dont have to be black .A light gray works just fine.Doing this hobby can at times be fustrating,and by sitting there tring to scribe lines is not my idea of fun.I saw a beautiful converted 2 door to 4 police  black and white at l.I.A.R.S. model show on long island this year and the builder used pinstripe for panel lines ,and it looked just great.Or the model companies can be nice and build more 4 doors.2days ago came back from toy fair in ny.I talk to these companies about more 4 doors and all they can do is submit the idea,but as you know it rarely goes far.the only one who does have a interest was Mr lowe from hawk lindberg.Now this is a guy who is a plus for the hobby and  has interest in what you say.

 

Just as a suggestion, if you continue to do this, print some of your lines in dark colors like dark red, blue, green, etc.

Then you can use them on like colored vehicles & they won't look too "stark".

 

Steve

 

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Posted by ScottH454 on Monday, February 20, 2017 8:41 PM
Right, the 1:1 cars don't actually have black lines, there shaded gaps. So either a reduced opacity or a line slightly darker than than the body color. While I wouldn't use this idea for panel gaps, I do think it would have it's place. Heck maybe even as a way to preview before you commit to scribe lines.
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Posted by trainwreck on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:11 PM

Good idea for some perhaps, but until I am unable to scribe proper lines I think I'll pass. Don't get me wrong I think its a good plan just not for me, I feel scribing(If it's done well) offers a more finished look. Trainwreck.  

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Posted by oldcarguy on Thursday, March 02, 2017 10:15 AM

Hmm;

 Seems my computer didn't like me . Anyway . I have to say . It's your choice .Me , Nope , I will do it the old fashioned way . O.C.G.

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Posted by oldcarguy on Thursday, March 02, 2017 10:16 AM

Oh My :

 I do like that Buick ! O.C.G.

gjgeracci

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