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Revell Cadillac Lowrider to factory Stock

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  • From: Nevada
Revell Cadillac Lowrider to factory Stock
Posted by American185 on Friday, January 06, 2017 11:42 AM

Just letting others know or wondering what others thoughts are about this kit. Received the Cadillac Lowrider by Revell from a friend for Christmas and want to build it factory stock. However lots of errors by Revell on this model. No identifying nomenclature on this model anywhere, and they seem to think it is a Coupe DeVille. Wrong. The Coupe was a front driver and only the Brougham was still rear drive in 1990. No moulding from front of hood leading to lower roof surround moulding, no front fender monitoring lights, nor rear window mounted collision avoidance lamp. And lots of excess flash that needs to be dealt with as well. Not Revells usual standard sadly. Seeing this kit as it is right now, I would never spend the money regardless of what for this kit. A true waste of money. It also appears that the front windshield is too tall for the car itself. Based on pictures I have and brouchures of the actual car, it is certainly not 100% accurate...

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Posted by avidinha on Friday, January 06, 2017 4:23 PM

that's why it's called "Custom Cadillac" no 1:1 car was offered in that configuration. Its a popular modification in the lowrider community to take the body trim and Euro front end off a 4 door Brougham and adapt it to fit a coupe.

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Posted by American185 on Friday, January 06, 2017 8:31 PM

You are obviously a big fan of what we in the auto industry call a "Hoopdie", complete with ghetto blaster !!!! Beyond destroying a perfectly good automobile, and doing nothing for the automotive community, why would a company make a model of this beast, and turn out such a poor casting at that ?? Fortunately after some careful research, I did find tips and some blueprints on how to turn this beast into a Brougham 4 dr. Amen !!! A normal Cadillac that I would drive !!!

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Posted by Plowboy on Monday, January 09, 2017 10:06 AM

American185

Beyond destroying a perfectly good automobile, and doing nothing for the automotive community, why would a company make a model of this beast, and turn out such a poor casting at that ??

 

Because they want to sell more than a handful of kits. At the time this kit was first released, Revell was into the lowriders. That's what was selling at the time. It's no different than when they were converting kits to Donks later on. Not many people want a "Grampymobile".

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Posted by American185 on Monday, January 09, 2017 10:38 AM

That's what was selling at the time. It's no different than when they were converting kits to Donks later on. Not many people want a "Grampymobile".

Funny, you seem to be in the minority, as seasoned modelers on two other sites agree with me and have turned this kit in to the car it was supposed to be !! The builds are fantastic, and the effort applaudable. Donks and the other garbage are niche market stuff and should remain that......

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Posted by montelsc on Monday, January 09, 2017 2:22 PM

if your going back to the 4 headlight system let me know were you get the lights from

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Posted by FredRPG on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:14 PM

American185
Funny, you seem to be in the minority, as seasoned modelers on two other sites agree with me and have turned this kit in to the car it was supposed to be !! The builds are fantastic, and the effort applaudable. Donks and the other garbage are niche market stuff and should remain that......
 

One mans garbage...

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  • From: Nevada
Posted by American185 on Friday, February 03, 2017 11:42 AM

Hey montelsc,

I took it one step further. I located a transkit for the 90-92 Brougham 4dr. Appears dead accurate too. Moldings, emblems etc. Going to turn this hideous beast in to an accurate Cadillac !! Only thing I see is the interior trim panels from the factory kit will have to be slightly modified but that is no big deal. But the completed model will be showroom accurate.

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  • From: Bombala, Australia
Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Saturday, February 04, 2017 12:59 AM

American185
I located a transkit for the 90-92 Brougham 4dr.

Do tell....

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  • From: Nevada
Posted by American185 on Saturday, February 04, 2017 9:13 AM

The kit was available on ebay and as of now there is only one left available. Not cheap but to me worth it, as the model is dead factory accurate, including all the exterior mouldings the Brougham had. As I only build  factory stock models and have zero interest in custom kits, this was a welcome surprise for me !! The lowrider will be the donor kit, and I already filled in the boon box speakers on the rear trunk wall and painted it fabric grey, so as to accurately duplicate the carpeting in the trunk of the Brougham !!! Only modification needed will be the interior door trim panels and some careful trimming of the opera windows, which is not hard. Other than that a welcome addition to my luxury liner collection !!!

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Posted by lordairgtar on Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:55 PM

It was my understanding that the Revell kit was sort of an amalgam of two different Cadillacs. Also I always thought that a Coupe DeVille was the two door and the Sedan DeVille was the four door.

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Posted by High octane on Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:02 PM

Being a previous Cadillac owner a couple of times in the past, you are correct as the Coupe DeVille is a two door and the Sedan DeVille is a four door car.

High octane

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Posted by mrmike on Friday, February 17, 2017 6:54 AM

Converting a customized model car into something stock can be done with some effort, but it can only happen if you really have a vision and some determination.  I converted the Revell Uptown Caddy STS-V into a stock STS-V.  I changed the wheels and tires to Pegasus Vanquish wheels, added Pegasus brakes, added door handles, got rid of all the bling and oversized stereo junk and glued the doors shut.  I had seen two other versions of this being done and I had to put my own spin on one.

I even made a trunk floor for the opening trunk lid.

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Posted by American185 on Friday, February 17, 2017 7:57 AM

Now that is a gorgeous build, and a real Cadillac !!! Not something only 1/2% of the public drives, or would waste time building. I am in the process of gutting the lowrider kit and turning it in to a factory coupe, although very inaccurate. Cadillac dropped the Brougham coupe in mid year of 1985 and the Fleetwood name was dropped as well. The Brougham was now a sedan only, and it's own model. I have gotten rid of all the hoopdie radio junk, filled all the holes where Revell wants that garbage mounted, and filled the rear panel of the trunk that has those wretched boom box speakers in it. Carpeting will be a sedate gray as it was from the factory, located wheels that represent Cadillacs wire wheel pretty well, and painted the model Light Beechwood a popular factory Cadillac color mid to late 80's. Hopefully the end result will be worth it all, but to me it will be, as I only build factory stock.

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Posted by Brett B on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:54 PM

It is what it is, and what it always has been, a lowrider.  Pretty popular swap to put 90's single headlights and wider bumper/body cladding on a RWD 70's-80's 2-door.   Tons of them out there done this way.  Image result for 1984 cadillac lowrider

1985 cadillac fleetwood brougham passenger side front view

This is what it would have looked like stock,  it's like a 84 or 85 Fleetwood Brougham. 

Image result for 1985 cadillac fleetwood brougham

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  • From: S F Bay Area
Posted by Chuck Kourouklis on Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:34 PM

It's a great conversion that makes the car visually a bit leaner and really cleans up the front bumper transition to the body.  '90s trim + an '80s coupe add up to a whole greater than the sum of the parts, imho.

While I certainly wouldn't object to a phantom factory stocker with these modifications - again, NOWHERE does Revell allow even the vaguest expectation of a stock '84-'85 Coupe DeVille or Fleetwood Brougham - I fail to see how dealing in a few facts necessarily makes you a J C Whitney junkie. 

Anyone who can look past his own biases to admire skilled craftsmanship often finds himself compelled to admire a good lowrider on that basis alone.  It's nearly the same in scale; we car modelers just luuurve our paint jobs, and you know where you can reliably see some of the slickest, most jaw-dropping finishes at a show?  Right there in the "hooptie" section.

Another fact is that this kit ain't news.  It was first offered as a diecast with a Lowrider Magazine tie-in 13 years ago, then converted to plastic and listed in Revell catalogs pretty constantly for the better part of the last decade.  So no matter what an echo chamber of one's friends might suggest, there's some historical evidence that the true majority has enough interest in this kit to keep it a viable performer on the exact terms Revell presents it - a dedicated lowrider model from the start (btw, seen a fresh Revell Midget or '62 Impala lately?).

Another striking fact is that while Revell generated a suite of new parts for each of several diecast-to-plastic conversions before - the '68 Mustang, the '70 Challenger, the Subaru WRX, the Acura RSX, and the most esthetically successful of those conversions, the '58 Impala - this one was a pretty straight conversion from the diecast, with maybe a grille added, and then a quilted interior for the Donk version.  While I think it'd be quite the crowd-pleasing move to put both interiors in a larger box, and then add factory Cadillac wire-covered wheels and the tires from, say, the Bandit Firebird with whitewalls on the decal sheet, Revell has apparently seen no need to do any such thing to enhance this kit's appeal.

Which is not to say that there aren't any nits to pick even on this model's own terms.  But it's outside my mainstream and it's forcing a few different priorities as I build it.  And rather than using all that as an excuse to stare down my nose at lowriders and those who love them, I'm actually enjoying the stretch in skills and perception this kit provides.

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