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ATTACHING PHOTO ETCHED PARTS TO STYRENE/RESIN BODIES

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ATTACHING PHOTO ETCHED PARTS TO STYRENE/RESIN BODIES
Posted by MR.ME on Monday, June 17, 2013 6:18 PM

I'm not new to modeling, but am new to using after market detailing , and the like. Now this may seem like a dumb question, how do you attach the photo etched parts to the body, and what is the best adhesive for this purpose? Also how do you mount them with out ruining a paint job, also clear coat before, or after adding photo etched parts? Thank for any/all suggestions

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Posted by Treehugger Dave on Monday, June 17, 2013 6:42 PM

Good questions Thumbs Up.

Because there' gotta be others who do it differently, I'll tell you how I do mine.

I do clear the body first and rub it out. Then I lay out the area with Tamiya tape as a guide to get all the pieces glued down correctly.

I use 2 part clear epoxy by Permatex. I use a round toothpick to apply the epoxy always to the body SPARINGLY. I do very few pieces at a time. Sometimes one at a time. Takes more time but the results are worth it.

I hope this helps.

Dave

 

 

 

                                     

 

 

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Posted by felhasznaaloo on Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:23 AM

Modelcarjr's explains how he does this in his '57 Bel Air build here. He uses 5-minute epoxy, as it cleans off nicely, if you know WHEN to clean it off with a toothpick. Regards, Csaba

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Posted by Bainford on Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:49 AM

I use epoxy at times, but often use Future as an adhesive for PE in some instances.

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Posted by MR.ME on Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 PM

Hey Bainford How does Future work as an adhesive, when its a wax/polish?

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Posted by vypurr59 on Friday, June 21, 2013 3:05 PM

Future is self leveling, and when something is placed into it wet, it adheres.  I normally use clearcoat for my adhesive. Spray the backside, let it tack a minute, then place.  

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Posted by MR.ME on Friday, June 21, 2013 5:10 PM

I wish I could get some scrap pe pieces to practice on I do have several junk bodies around I could practice on before ruin a good body/paint job

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Posted by retroeguy on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:32 PM

I use a gap filling glue(cyanoacrylate) and apply with a toothpick...

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Posted by zenrat on Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:30 AM

MR.ME

Hey Bainford How does Future work as an adhesive, when its a wax/polish?

It's not a wax or polish.  It's a self levelling acrylic clear coat.

After clearing my bodies I stick any small scripts on with a few tiny drops of acrylic gloss clear (Tamiya or Gungze).

It's the 21st Century. Where's my Jet Pack & Flying Car? On the bench - detritus mainly.

Ninjas don't have pockets.

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Posted by High octane on Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:43 AM

Sometimes tooth picks are too big to apply the epoxy and I use a straight pin at times to apply the glue, like the pentastar on the fenders of Mopars as they are really small.

High octane

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Posted by dmk on Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:59 AM

So you guys who use Future, do you apply it to the body and then stick the PE part on the little puddle of Future?

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Posted by Bainford on Friday, June 28, 2013 8:46 AM

On very small parts I apply a spot of Future to the back side of the part with a toothpick or very small brush. The stuff is quite thin, so you have to have good surface contact for this to work, but if the paint finish is shiney of clear coated, the Future will be practically invisible when it dries. You may have to use more Future than seems proper, but the stuff dries very thin. So far I have been quite impressed with how well it holds. Sometimes when waxing a completed model the cloth will snag an edge of the PE,  but I haven't yet pulled one off.

When applying the lattice work PE to the tail light assembly on the Monogram 70 Torino GT (the single most delicate model part I've ever handled), Future or other type of clear coat seemed the only adhesive to do the job. In that case I painted the entire tail light lense with a heavy coat of Future then laid the PE on top of it and clamped in place.

Actually, I use Future quite often as an adhesive when model building. In some circumstances it can perform better then more conventional adhesives.

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Posted by Bainford on Friday, June 28, 2013 8:49 AM

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"A common mistake people make when designing something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
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Posted by Bainford on Friday, June 28, 2013 8:56 AM

MR.ME

Hey Bainford How does Future work as an adhesive, when its a wax/polish?

Future is not a wax or polish, as the name might suggest. It is an acrylic clear coat. It applies quite thin and dries very thin. The surface on which you apply the PE must be shiney for the adhesive to be invisible once it dries.

"A common mistake people make when designing something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
- Douglas Adams

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Posted by pboucher on Friday, June 28, 2013 12:29 PM

For small parts I use Microscale Liguidtape.  Apply it to the part, let it "dry" and stick the part on.

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Posted by Bainford on Friday, June 28, 2013 12:51 PM

pboucher

For small parts I use Microscale Liguidtape.  Apply it to the part, let it "dry" and stick the part on.

Interesting suggestion. I haven't tried Microscale Liquidtape yet, but I've been meaning to pick some up. A product that I have tried, though, is Microscale Foil Adhesive. It is a very handy adhesive to have around the bench, and I used this apply PE to a particularly tricky area on my latest build, and have been surprised at how well it is working..

"A common mistake people make when designing something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
- Douglas Adams

Trevor

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Posted by MR.ME on Friday, June 28, 2013 1:34 PM

Thanks everybody for the suggestions, tips etc Now to decide which ones to try!!!!! BTW, please keep them coming gents

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