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Rivets?
Posted by popeyesurf on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:47 PM

How do YOU do them? i've watched a couple of  tutorials on youtube but cant see  how they'd work in 1/25th scale, one was small beads pressed into countersunk drill holes and one useing a swiss  bead tool (which i'm going to buy and try) but i need to add some rivet detail to a truck chassi, had a go at cutting some thin styrene rod but it didn't look right, and i cant find hex rod over here (to make bolt heads) so wondering what other ways there are,

when i did ship modeling i made a gadget for lines of rivits which was a toothed cog fitted to a roller handle so when you ran it along a steel straight edge onto some thin styrene sheet you got a nice rivet line but obviously this would be too fine for truck models at 25th scale, plus the detail on the chassis is more random in their spacing,

dont suppose theres such a thing as 1/25th scale rivet heads or bolt heads in a bag?Sad

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Posted by johnbuzzed on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:18 PM

If you check out a catalog of stuff for G gauge (actually, any gauge) model railroads, you might find some detail hardware listed.  A company called Grandt Line makes nut-bolt-washer detail items on plastic sprues in different sizes.  They are meant for model railroaders but they can be used for many applications in different scales; the company might also make other hardware items.  And check out the post "Some Dodge WIPs" in the trucks/commercial vehicles area for more info about hardware.  You can try teeny drops of white glue for round rivet heads, or try heating (read: melting) the end of fine styrene rod stock to form that little, round melted knob; that might pass for a round rivet head.  Good luck with your trucks.

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Posted by popeyesurf on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:55 AM

Thanks John i'll check out that railway stuff, sounds just what i want, i did try the white glue but couldn't get it to look right, also going to try this swiss bead thing (again cant find one here so it from the USA again) all i need is to add some rivet or bolt heads to the scratch built extended chassis of this kenworth, i've extended it to make it tri axle, thans again, regards, ian

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Posted by Too Old on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15 AM

I know of two sources for 1/25 scale rivets .  The first one is www.scalehardware.com .  They have real rivets and nuts and bolts in very small sizes .  The other is www.archertransfers.com .  They have raised rivet heads on decal sheets that work great .

TooOld

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Posted by sjordan on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:01 AM

I believe the Archer rivet transfers that were just mentioned are press-on, making them easy to apply.

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Posted by Customrods on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:24 AM

Go to R&B Motion they have all sizes of rivets and nuts also. Plus they are made for model cars.

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Posted by popeyesurf on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:34 PM

Thanks for the links guys, much apprecieated, i will check them out,

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Posted by BigTallDad on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:44 PM

As a last resort, sharpen the outside of a small diameter brass tube then use it (along with a hammer) to punch out rivets using thin styrene. I stress sharpening the outside; if you sharpen the inside, you create a wedge-shaped cutting edge which forces the styrene into the tube...good luck getting it out.

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Posted by southpier on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:48 PM

Grant Line also makes some. since "real world" rivets come in all sizes, i wouldn't get hung up with scale. just caliper the size you need and start drilling!

grandtline.com/.../augmentables.html

 

or if it's pretty big ones you need, use common pin heads. drill #76, snip, & glue

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Posted by jwhalen on Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:31 AM

Hi,

There's some good tips about where to find some supplies above and to add to the list I believe you can get photo-etched bolt heads from KFS (Kit Form Supplies).

Cheers,

Jim

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Posted by popeyesurf on Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:07 AM

Thanks will check them out,  i have ordered some hex rod i found on the net, dont know if it will be small enough as they give the measurements as 1mm on the flat of the hex shape so we'll see, PE rivits sound good tho

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Posted by southpier on Saturday, September 29, 2012 3:08 AM

hex rod for nuts

 

1" = one big rivet

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Posted by popeyesurf on Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:01 AM

Yeah i know, need some bolt heads as well as rivets,

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Posted by popeyesurf on Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:21 AM

Wow! been haveing a look round KFS and R&B motion and i could spend a fortune, (why wasn't i borne rich?)  going to email these guys and see if they ship overseas, unless i can find a UK model railway outlet that stocks their stuff,  i'll try the transfer place (Archer) later, either the nets playing up or it's just their web site,  the sharpened tube punch also looks a good option, i have some brass tube stock left over from the r/c ship days, thanks to everyone for the ideas

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Posted by popeyesurf on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:57 PM

Great!! i've found a outlet over here that carries some Grandt line stuff and amounst them are rivets and bolts, i had a good look at the Grandt home page and was very impressed with them, it's really nice to see a family run company doing well, makes a nice change these days from the giant all embraceing but soulless large companys, be ordering some items real soon and when i have them added to the Kenny i'll update the wip thread on it, thanks again

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