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Just how bad it the AMT 69 Camaro coupe? (Please reply,I won't bite!)

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Just how bad it the AMT 69 Camaro coupe? (Please reply,I won't bite!)
Posted by MoPars II on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:14 PM
The one from 2 Fast 2 Furious.I saw it in a store and the roof looks like crap.Has anyone built the kit?Any history on it?Also will the parts from the 69 Firebird interchange with the Revell 68? Thanks in return!I also would like to see some scans of the instructions and pics of the parts!Big Smile
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Posted by zgator on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:29 PM
Not sure how bad it is but I'm looking at one right now that I bought back in thr 90's and never put together. The body looks sweet. Maybe someone has a newer one and we can make a comparison on this thread. That would be interesting. Explain the roof because mine looks right. It molded in yellow. I don't have the box art but it's a Revell.I just looked at the chrome and it has some mag wheels that kinda look like the old American racing.I want to know about the 69 Firebird. I like those better than the 69 Camaro.A good friend of mine has one all done up in a tastful pro touring. No to wild but subdude. It's got a beautiful Silver matalic that he custom blended. That paint is so smooth. I love that car.Perfect stance not too low. He went old school with the deep dish cragers, Opps, I forgot this is a model site sorry.I've been trying to find the kit with no luck. Ebay I guess.
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Posted by MoPars II on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:33 PM
The rear along with the roof look like a 4 yr. old designed it.Which leads me to think that it was tooled from the convertible.
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Posted by Zoom Zoom on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:46 PM
The AMT looks horrible. If you want one that looks good get the Revell, it's proportions are perfect.

The 69 Firebird parts might work w/Revell 68, with a little help.
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Posted by MoPars II on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:52 PM
Just how bad though,I want history and pics.
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Posted by MoPars II on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:04 PM
Zgator,My dad had 2 69 'Birds: a 400 Coupe and a 350 'Vert.From the pics I have seen the chassis looks like the 72 Nova minus the seperate exhaust.
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Posted by zgator on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:07 PM
Man I'm sorry but pics are not my forte. Mine don't look like it was molded out of a vert.I'm glad you poted this. It looks like a new project. I can see and old school Super Stock. Find Some Slixx Dyno Don. Yeah. Lets here more!!!
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Posted by MoPars II on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:09 PM
It was the AMT/Ertl one(Camaro).The Revell one is great though.
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Posted by Zoom Zoom on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MoPars II

Just how bad though,I want history and pics.


I don't have pics, I have seen very few built. I've seen enough to know that it looks so bad that I won't ever buy one, or even take one for free. With Revell's incredibly nice Yenko Camaro, there's simply no need to bother with the AMT unless perhaps someone gives it to you and you feel obligated to build it, or if you don't really know about or care about the proportion/design issues. The AMT was re-tooled from an old convertible, without regard to actual proportions. The tooling it's based on is ancient, based upon a kit done in 1969. It was merely a tool for AMT to get a product on the shelf based on the movie.
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Posted by Zoom Zoom on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:51 PM
I just found a thread on another forum about this kit. From Nov. of 2003 when it was new. Read on:

"Just thought I would warn anyone before going out and spending $ on this kit, because I figure it is going to be a popular kit. I just brought home and opened up AMT`s Fast and Furious Yenko Camaro kit, and at first though it was some kind of joke. It is *that* bad. It`s hard to know where to start. The body is probably the worst part. It resembles a Maverick more than a Camaro, and the front and rear ends are especially unconvincing. It is almost hilarious. I imagine anyone who has seen this kit and is familiar with the proportions of the real car probably has had a good laugh.

There is flash everywhere. There are "nibs" and pock marks on various pieces, like many of the other AMT kits I`ve seen. The driveshaft, rear suspension, and exhaust are all one piece, which makes sense for kids just starting building, but most kids wont know what to do with all the flash. The rear axle is also much too narrow. It comes with an optional dual carb cross-ram setup you see on some stock 302`s which is cool, but as far as I know this setup has never been on a big block chevy (can someone back me up here?), and the carbs come *molded to the intake manifold*.

A couple bright spots are thedecals and the wheels. The decals look mostly accurate, except the hood stripes appear to be to wide. The wheels actually look much better than they do on the box and have nice Chrome.

I suggest waiting for the accurate and much higher quality Revell kit, which should be out before the end of the year.....done ranting."

That pretty much says it all, without pictures. Pictures would just break a camera.
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Posted by MoPars II on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:05 PM
I have the Revell kit and I am sick of it!I want a Challenge!
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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:35 PM
i don't care about the proportions (zoom), but the engine and chassis are not particulary easy or nice to build either. they lack detail and much of it is all molded as one piece. good for beginners.
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Posted by Marc @ MPC Motorsports on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:24 PM
I built this one back in 2002 from the 1980's version before the tool was changed to the ragtop.

Is it the Revell kit, no. But with a little bit of work and basic modeling skills you can build a nice model with it.

I used Pegasus rims on mine and the engine from the AMT '67 Impala street machine, along with some other kitbashed and aftermarket parts. The Fast & Furious car does not look right, but can still be built. I have one that I cut the nose off of and grafted to another 1980's MPC Camaro hardtop that I had so I could build a standard grille MPC Camaro. Need to finish that one someday.

Bottom line, if you want to build the F&F Camaro, do it!!! Be sure to start a thread on the build so you can show everyone how to make lemonade from a lemon.

As for your '69 Firebird, you might want to use a combination of the Revell Firebird interior with the Revell '69 Camaro. The '69 bodies are different than the '67 and '68 F Bodies. You would need to adapt the '69 Firebird front bumper and headlights, hood and rear taillights anb bumper to the Camaro. This is a conversion I might attempt myself someday.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MoPars II

I have the Revell kit and I am sick of it!I want a Challenge!


That kit is definitely a challenge.The true challenge is not get mad and and chunk it in the garbage.If your looking for another 1969 Camaro too build try the old Monogram kit. It's just been re released by Revell.I saw them the other day at Wal Mart.It's not nearly as nice as the Revell 69, but it is light years beyond that P.O.S. by AMT.That's just my My 2 cents
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Posted by MoPars II on Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:45 PM
I don't chuck anything in the garbage! I still have all the box tops and parts trees!I want to see pics of the AMT body!
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Posted by Chuck Kourouklis on Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:31 PM
So I'm thinkin', what is UP here, anyway? The box cover shows you everything you need to know.

But ya want further verification. Fair enough. The roof problems are less obvious in this view, but they're still pretty blatant:



So there y'are, MoPars. I dunno if you're gonna have much luck getting better pics, 'cause I dunno if anyone who's bought it would want to shoot it.

Not with a camera, anyway. Big Smile

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Posted by MoPars II on Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:36 PM
Thanks Chuck! It looks like it Might be fixable,I know just get a revell kit but I love AMT no matter what!
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Posted by blueovl150 on Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:42 PM
I don't know what to think about the F&F Camaro. Was that a new tool? AMT had the '69 Camaro right with the '69 annual, the one with the custom version designed by the Alexander Brothers. That model was quite nearly as proportionally accurate as the Revell kit! Is anyone here old enough to remember? Someday, when I get rich from driving a big rig, I'll try to find one on Evilbay. I see them being auctioned occaisionally...
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Posted by blueovl150 on Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:49 PM
Oops! I meant that the custom version was designed by Gene Winfield, not the Alexander Brothers.
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Posted by blizzy63 on Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MoPars II

The rear along with the roof look like a 4 yr. old designed it.Which leads me to think that it was tooled from the convertible.


I wonder which mold that AMT/RCErtl 2 Fast 2 Furious '69 Camaro hardtop is based on?
In the '80s, Ertl bought all the AMT and MPC molds.
In 1969, both AMT and MPC produced '69 Camaro hardtop annual kits.
AMT had the contract from General Motors to produce the '69 Camaro promos and kits, so it's hard to believe that they messed up the body design since they had the factory blueprints. MPC probably had to wing the body design since they had no factory drawings (Is this where the screwed up hardtop body design came from?).
Both AMT and MPC altered these annual kits into funny car offerings in the early '70s. Since the '70s, the only '69 Camaro kits I know of with the AMT or MPC lable are the MPC/Ertl '69 Camaro hardtop and convertible re-issues of the '80s. (The MPC convertible kit was re-issued recently in the AMT/RCErtl 'Nostalgia series' kits.)
All the above kits had the RS grille with hide-away headlights. The 2F2F Camaro shows a standard '69 Camaro grille with exposed headlights. Is this an old MPC hardtop kit with updated grille? I really wonder. (I've never owned a '69 Camaro kit at all.)
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Posted by Marc @ MPC Motorsports on Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by blizzy63

QUOTE: Originally posted by MoPars II

The rear along with the roof look like a 4 yr. old designed it.Which leads me to think that it was tooled from the convertible.


I wonder which mold that AMT/RCErtl 2 Fast 2 Furious '69 Camaro hardtop is based on?
In the '80s, Ertl bought all the AMT and MPC molds.
In 1969, both AMT and MPC produced '69 Camaro hardtop annual kits.
AMT had the contract from General Motors to produce the '69 Camaro promos and kits, so it's hard to believe that they messed up the body design since they had the factory blueprints. MPC probably had to wing the body design since they had no factory drawings (Is this where the screwed up hardtop body design came from?).
Both AMT and MPC altered these annual kits into funny car offerings in the early '70s. Since the '70s, the only '69 Camaro kits I know of with the AMT or MPC lable are the MPC/Ertl '69 Camaro hardtop and convertible re-issues of the '80s. (The MPC convertible kit was re-issued recently in the AMT/RCErtl 'Nostalgia series' kits.)
All the above kits had the RS grille with hide-away headlights. The 2F2F Camaro shows a standard '69 Camaro grille with exposed headlights. Is this an old MPC hardtop kit with updated grille? I really wonder. (I've never owned a '69 Camaro kit at all.)

The F&F kit goes back to the MPC '69 annual, which became the Super Stocker dirt car. It was retooled back to "stock" in the 1980's then changed into the convertible. The F&F car was modified from the convertible. RC2 added a roof, front and rear spoilers, and changed the grille to the "standard" version.

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Posted by blizzy63 on Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Marc @ MPC Motorsports

QUOTE: Originally posted by blizzy63

QUOTE: Originally posted by MoPars II

The rear along with the roof look like a 4 yr. old designed it.Which leads me to think that it was tooled from the convertible.


I wonder which mold that AMT/RCErtl 2 Fast 2 Furious '69 Camaro hardtop is based on?
In the '80s, Ertl bought all the AMT and MPC molds.
In 1969, both AMT and MPC produced '69 Camaro hardtop annual kits.
AMT had the contract from General Motors to produce the '69 Camaro promos and kits, so it's hard to believe that they messed up the body design since they had the factory blueprints. MPC probably had to wing the body design since they had no factory drawings (Is this where the screwed up hardtop body design came from?).
Both AMT and MPC altered these annual kits into funny car offerings in the early '70s. Since the '70s, the only '69 Camaro kits I know of with the AMT or MPC lable are the MPC/Ertl '69 Camaro hardtop and convertible re-issues of the '80s. (The MPC convertible kit was re-issued recently in the AMT/RCErtl 'Nostalgia series' kits.)
All the above kits had the RS grille with hide-away headlights. The 2F2F Camaro shows a standard '69 Camaro grille with exposed headlights. Is this an old MPC hardtop kit with updated grille? I really wonder. (I've never owned a '69 Camaro kit at all.)

The F&F kit goes back to the MPC '69 annual, which became the Super Stocker dirt car. It was retooled back to "stock" in the 1980's then changed into the convertible. The F&F car was modified from the convertible. RC2 added a roof, front and rear spoilers, and changed the grille to the "standard" version.


Yikes!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:09 PM
I haven't seen one yet, so I can't tell ya. hopefully I will see one soon

keep buying and building

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:11 PM
I haven't seen one yet, so I can't tell ya. hopefully I will see one soon

keep buying and building

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Posted by Abell82 on Friday, October 26, 2007 3:06 AM
All You have to do is look at the convertible posted in this thread, and you will see why it is barely suitable for parts.
http://www.scaleautomag.com/sca/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59738
The taillights are the wrong shape, and the front grille is too narrow.
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mrmike
Must be spam Friday!

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Posted by mrmike on Saturday, September 15, 2018 3:09 PM

I did, too!

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:40 AM

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