SEARCH SCALEAUTOMAG.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

Is anyone surprised?

1562 views
16 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    January 2018
Is anyone surprised?
Posted by BuildingCars4Fun on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:29 PM

Very sad to see that SAM is closing, I have a sub and I'm a big fan, but honestly is this really a surprise to anyone? Lets look at some facts:

(1) I have no data to prove this, but I suspect strongly that the number of (serious and passionate) model builders is shrinking, with few kids really taking up the hobby these days. 

(2) Print is a dying format. Not just in this hobby, but for print as a medium (newspapres, magazines etc). Its a struggle. Subscriber numbers are down, few people buy them anymore, or at least in very small numbers. 

(3) revenues from digital ad sales (yes all the annoying ads I can see at the bottom and left and top and ALL OVER this page, come NO WHERE NEAR replacing the lost revenue from ad sales in print (where no one wants to advertise anymore because  - see 1 above. 

and

(4) with social media in all its shapes and sizes, the "community" aspect (one of the last vestiages of "places" like this, has also become less valuable (or at least has some serious competiton). I am sure we are all members of forums on facebook, and share our builds to groups on instagram. I rarely use my desktop for this, but have to for forums here (a PINTA), and facebook etc are much easier to use. Ask yourselves - when you need a how to video, do you come here or go to YouTube? exactly. 

If you combine all of the above, there is no way that this is a commercially successful venture. 

That means that its effectively a passion project for the team who run the mag - and thats WONDERFUL... up to a point. Because just like the hobby, I suspect there is no one standing in the wings waiting to adopt the baby once that passion runs thin, money runs out etc.

So I am very sad to see another great publication that really cared about its community and fostered the passion of its members. But there is no award for being the last blacksmith in the village. 

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: Kennesaw, GA
Posted by nick63 on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:35 PM

I am really happy I have saved every issue since 2001 in order and in binders. It is like an encyclopedia of modeling for model cars, trucks etc. Sorry to see SAM go, but since Jim left it seemed like things were not the same. I just renewed my subscription and would prefer a refund from Kalbach as I am not interested in Fine Scale Modeler. Thanks to all who made this magazine great and for the education. Ken Hamilton and Andy Kellock will be missed as well as many other fine contributors.

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Nashua, New Hampshire
Posted by mrmike on Thursday, July 16, 2020 6:18 AM

I do not like the fact that Scale Auto will be included with Fine Scale Modeler as an occasional subject.  Scale Auto should have a larger presence in FSM an not an occasional article here and there.  Many Scale Auto readers are mad and FSM readers continue to get their magazine basically unaltered.  We are getting the short end of the stick here!

"That's Spenser with an 'S' like the poet."

Robert Urich Spenser For Hire 1985

Classic Plastic Model Club

  • Member since
    October 2014
Posted by Modeltruckbuilder on Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:39 AM
No I am not surprised. However, I am greatly disappointed by this announcement. Not angry, but disappointed.
  • Member since
    August 2014
Posted by JonesJefHou on Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:48 AM

I am disappointed that Scale Auto (SM) is disappearing but mad they are forcing us over to Fine Scale Modeler (FSM) (which is comparing apples to oranges) instead of offering a REFUND on the remainder of our SM subscription. I have no use for FSM.

In all honesty, I saw this coming a mile away when they tried to "shift" our attention to things that were not of interest like Die-Cast, Goofy Build Topics, Reviews of models that drew little-to-no interest from die hard modelers, etc. I think they got themselves "pinned in" with the same "experts" writing articles telling us what we already know.

I understand the attempt to "save" SM, just was the wrong approach.

  • Member since
    November 2013
Posted by 1TOYTRUK on Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:18 AM

mrmike

I do not like the fact that Scale Auto will be included with Fine Scale Modeler as an occasional subject.  Scale Auto should have a larger presence in FSM an not an occasional article here and there.  Many Scale Auto readers are mad and FSM readers continue to get their magazine basically unaltered.  We are getting the short end of the stick here!

 

l concur! I've subscribed to many, many magazines that are of interest to me! Over the years ie; scale model RC aircraft, slot cars,  boats & model cars & more than 1 magazine!

Like most it was a surprise, that we will NO LONGER have a GREAT MAGAZINE, dedicated to our hobby of model cars!

Ive had subscriptions to FSM, now with what we have been told, that it will be occasional articles for cars, for ME that dosent cut it! Having said that l know that it would be difficult to do refunds to subscribers! I've been there in-this  type of situation, so l will finish my subscription with FSM,but NOT TO MY LIKING!

As some have said, kids today would rather have their heads in electronics!
So it's a sad day, l looked forward to receiving the magazine, & all the articles & new models coming out!

So THANKS.

 

  • Member since
    September 2019
  • From: upstate n.y.
Posted by hopeless on Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:59 AM

i aggree that sam and fsm are not tailored to the same membership.  while researching, detailing, and technical skills are common to the genres of both modeling communities, cars allow a broad level of artistic creativity that military models don't encourage in the same way.  for the same reason everyone loves different kinds of cars, the expression, artistically speaking, of one car model kit can be developed and shared to inspire a limitless sea of potential kit buyers and builders.  i hope that the online presence continues, but i am afraid it won't. metalflake tanks and warbirds probably will never catch on, but i'll keep building wild custom and drag cars.  i have thouroughly enjoyed my brief experience with scaleautomag; it added a dimension to the hobby i will miss  greatly. inspiration was perhaps my biggest take-away, and i hope i gave some as well.  thanks a bunch to everyone who helped me enjoy the car modelling hobby through the mag and the website. i will definitely take that forward.

hopeless

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, July 16, 2020 2:50 PM

I build aircraft and cars.

When I am building an aircraft I use FSM for reference material.

When I m building a car I use SAM for reference material.

It is a real shame that SAM will be closing. It has a wealth of great tips and tricks and model building information.

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: Earth
Posted by JTRACING on Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:01 PM
Scale auto magazine has not been available in any store in my area for over 15 years.. so I’m not surprised if they don’t want to put the magazine in any store this would happen. Yet FSM is in the Walmart magainze isle every month, poor management imo because the hobby is more popular than ever right now
  • Member since
    November 2019
Posted by mrgts1 on Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:12 PM

I would call, not write, not email, but actually call kalmbach and tell them to cancel your subscription if your not happy and to refund the differnence. It's not exactly fair to you guys who subscribed to a particular magazine and get told that your money got rolled into a publication you dont want or care for. 

Funnily enough, it STILL says su scribe on the top right. Now that is garbage imo. Knowing full well there will be NO more issues yet still taking money. That's just bad business practice. Blame Kalmbach, not the sam staff. Ultimately the poor decision to alienate subscribership falls on them.

  • Member since
    October 2014
Posted by Modeltruckbuilder on Friday, July 17, 2020 5:01 AM

mrgts1

Funnily enough, it STILL says su scribe on the top right. Now that is garbage imo. Knowing full well there will be NO more issues yet still taking money. That's just bad business practice. Blame Kalmbach, not the sam staff. Ultimately the poor decision to alienate subscribership falls on them.

 

The Subscribe on the top right no longer works. It takes you to a page with an explanation that states the magazine is no longer in publication. They are not taking anyones money

  • Member since
    November 2019
Posted by mrgts1 on Friday, July 17, 2020 7:52 AM

Ah, thank you for the correction. I didn't click on the link so didn't know that. Wonder why they didn't just take it off the site? Easier to change the redirect I suppose? 

Paul

Modeltruckbuilder

 

 
mrgts1

Funnily enough, it STILL says su scribe on the top right. Now that is garbage imo. Knowing full well there will be NO more issues yet still taking money. That's just bad business practice. Blame Kalmbach, not the sam staff. Ultimately the poor decision to alienate subscribership falls on them.

 

 

 

The Subscribe on the top right no longer works. It takes you to a page with an explanation that states the magazine is no longer in publication. They are not taking anyones money

 

  • Member since
    October 2014
  • From: Paris, Texas
Posted by Michael B. on Friday, July 17, 2020 10:04 AM

I agree completely with you, MRMIKE.  I recently renewed my subscription to Scale Auto for three years, because I wanted Scale Auto, not FSM !!  I paid for a service and a product that I will not be receiving.  Bummer !!  Good luck to us all.  Michael B.

  • Member since
    August 2015
  • From: Hamptonville, NC
Posted by TarheelRick on Friday, July 17, 2020 10:06 AM

"The Subscribe on the top right no longer works. It takes you to a page with an explanation that states the magazine is no longer in publication. They are not taking anyones money"  

Unfortunately they have already taken my money.  I just renewed my subscription for two more years in June.  Now I will be receiving a magazine that I have no desire to receive and in no way appeals to the style of model-building that interests me.  I do have two or three aircraft models I want to build, but that is the limit of my military modeling.

 

 

 

I build models because I can't afford the real thing!

  • Member since
    October 2014
Posted by Modeltruckbuilder on Friday, July 17, 2020 10:17 AM

TarheelRick

"The Subscribe on the top right no longer works. It takes you to a page with an explanation that states the magazine is no longer in publication. They are not taking anyones money"  

Unfortunately they have already taken my money.  I just renewed my subscription for two more years in June.  Now I will be receiving a magazine that I have no desire to receive and in no way appeals to the style of model-building that interests me.  I do have two or three aircraft models I want to build, but that is the limit of my military modeling.

If you really feel that way then contact customer service. You can either email them or call them directly, the phone number is provided for you. I know this sucks, but you can't accuse anyone of taking your money until you make an attempt to get a refund.

  • Member since
    December 2005
  • From: Upstate New York
Posted by spencer1984 on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:50 AM

JonesJefHou

In all honesty, I saw this coming a mile away when they tried to "shift" our attention to things that were not of interest like Die-Cast, Goofy Build Topics, Reviews of models that drew little-to-no interest from die hard modelers, etc. I think they got themselves "pinned in" with the same "experts" writing articles telling us what we already know.

 
I'm genuinely curious, what did you want them to do? If you don't want rehashes of old (to you) topics, but you also don't want them to cover subjects of no interest (again, to you), that kind of leaves them with nothing but the current situation.
  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Charlotte
Posted by mikemodeler on Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:05 PM
I too, am disappointed in the news but will wait and see how the new magazine looks before passing judgement. I am a car/truck modeler and have looked a few issues of FSM over the years but remain hopeful that they can blend the two magazines and appease both groups of modelers. I had renewed my sub to SA in June and upon hearing the news, wrote to Kalmbach asking for a refund and got it.

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS

FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our privacy policy