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The new Round 2 AMT 1964 Olds Cutlass Convertible Kit.....
Posted by Tim Boyd on Saturday, March 7, 2020 8:02 AM

Some of you may have seen a listing for a new AMT 1964 Cutlass Convertible kit listed at one or more of the websites of model car kit retailers. 

Last night I got the nod from my Round 2 contact to let you know a little more about this upcoming kit. 

As a bit of background, AMT produced a "3 in 1" annual kit of a 1964 Olds Cutlass Convertible during the first few months of 1964.   That was the only time the kit was ever produced in that form.  

Around 1967, AMT altered the convertible body tooling (including relocated rear wheel openings), and combined that with the engine/chassis/interior et al used in several other AMT "Funny Car" (really, more accurately they were Altered Wheelbase A/FX) kits, for a single run of kits called "The Streaker". 

No other kits involving any portions of the 1964 Olds Cutlass tooling have ever been produced. 

Now, Round 2 will produce a new kit combining an all new body, patterned off the original annual kit body, combined with most or all of the remaining tooling from the original 1964 "3 in 1" kit.  

The body is not an update or modification of the "Streaker" funny car body tooling; instead it is all new and correct to the original kit content.

This approach of combining all new body tooling with the entire remainder of the original annual kit tooling means that, yes, that way, way cool dual Judson supercharger blower setup that was in the original annual 1964 kit is included in the new kit.

This project has been in the works for several years, and is a good example of the reality that great ideas for kits sometimes take a good deal of time to bring to the market, but (presuming the adult car kit hobby remains viable) some of them will indeed finally materialize as kits we can buy and build.

All of the above is based on my best understanding of the situation; I believe it to be accurate but we won't know 100% for sure until we have this new kit in our hot, grubby, model building hands. Personally, I can't wait!

TIM

 

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Posted by 60Buick on Saturday, March 7, 2020 8:08 AM

SWEET. I'll be getting a few of those!

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Posted by mrmike on Saturday, March 7, 2020 8:54 AM

Thanks Tim!  Having been suffering through years and years of Mustangs, Camaros and Corvettes, we need something different to build.

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Posted by Goofy62 on Saturday, March 7, 2020 10:53 AM

If this is actually true, I'm really glad that I didn't spend the $250.00 that these kits can command!

But let me warn you, you will be surprized, (or actually, probably not) at how much bitching and complaining will accompany the release of this kit.

I can hear it already!

"If they went through the work of making a new body, why didn't they tool new chassis, engine and interior parts?"

I for one will welcome this kit with open arms and will revel in the "modeling skills" that it might require to make it a show piece.

 

 

Steve

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:35 AM

Or even just a simple nice no frills shelf model of a great subject.

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Posted by Tim Boyd on Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:36 AM

Goofy62

 

But let me warn you, you will be surprized, (or actually, probably not) at how much bitching and complaining will accompany the release of this kit.

I can hear it already!

"If they went through the work of making a new body, why didn't they tool new chassis, engine and interior parts?"

I for one will welcome this kit with open arms and will revel in the "modeling skills" that it might require to make it a show piece.

 

 

Steve

 

Steve....won't be surprised at all, personally.  We have such a wide variety of participants and points of view in our hobby that comments like that are expected, and sometimes, warranted as well.  

Meanwhile, they won't stop me and many others here from buying the kit and enjoying building it. 

Thanks for your thoughts on this....TIM 

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Posted by smellyfatdude on Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:38 AM

Pacific Mist with a white top. Interior color yet to be decided. Yup, I'm in! Dinner

introducing a leaner, fresher smellyfatdude 

Next builds:

Dunno

 

 

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Posted by Goofy62 on Saturday, March 7, 2020 12:57 PM

midnightprowler

Or even just a simple nice no frills shelf model of a great subject.

 

Agreed completely

Either way, it's an extremely welcome developement over the usual boring stuff that we see offered these days.

 

 

 

Steve

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Posted by Goofy62 on Saturday, March 7, 2020 1:01 PM

Tim Boyd

 

 
Goofy62

 

But let me warn you, you will be surprized, (or actually, probably not) at how much bitching and complaining will accompany the release of this kit.

I can hear it already!

"If they went through the work of making a new body, why didn't they tool new chassis, engine and interior parts?"

I for one will welcome this kit with open arms and will revel in the "modeling skills" that it might require to make it a show piece.

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

Steve....won't be surprised at all, personally.  We have such a wide variety of participants and points of view in our hobby that comments like that are expected, and sometimes, warranted as well.  

Meanwhile, they won't stop me and many others here from buying the kit and enjoying building it. 

Thanks for your thoughts on this....TIM 

 

Won't stop me either!

I just wanted to ensure that everyone is prepared for at least a few months of wall to wall complaints right after this kit hits the shelves.Sad

 

 

 

Steve

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Posted by spencer1984 on Saturday, March 7, 2020 3:50 PM
Awesome, I'm definitely going to have to get one of these. Thanks for the update!
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Posted by Racer H on Saturday, March 7, 2020 6:33 PM

 

Thanks Tim for the fabulous news! I remember this kit … it was billed as a 1964 Oldsmobile F-85 Cutlass Convertible (3-in-1) Stock, Custom or Racing. The racing version was really unique: a single seat “roadster” complete with a wrap-around windshield and airfoil roll bar. The very tasteful customized version was designed by the great Dean Jeffries. There’s a lot to like about this fun kit, I’m definitely going to grab a pair. Well done Round 2 … true masters of retro-marketing!

 

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Posted by Dwights55 on Monday, March 9, 2020 3:34 PM

Although I have an original unbuilt kit, I will be in line for the new one. Any release dates, or is it to far in the future?

Most of my money goes for bow-ties, bikes and babes.  The rest I just waste.

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Posted by litespeedsae on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 2:30 AM

1964 was the first year of the 442 option. Hopefully, the photo etch people will have the "442" badging available!! Look at pictures of these first year real life 442's.

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Posted by Bainford on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 6:23 AM

Very interesting news. I have no interest in a '64 Olds, but am quite intrigued that Round2 are sticking their toes a little deeper into the 'new tooling' pond. This is quite exciting stuff, and a portend of other potential re-tooling opportunities that may serve to bring us new subjects; a Demon from Duster tooling perhaps, or one I've been waiting for for years, a '66 Comet from '67 Comet tooling, etc. Many possibilities. I do hope this endeavour is successful for them.

"It would be unusual, if the unusual didn't occur."

- Steamboat Gariepy

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Posted by crazypainter on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 2:23 PM

that's okay for a start-the OLDS- but I'm still waiting for a 67-68 Cougar -68-69 AMX-or a correct 65 GTO-and why is the lastest tool of the 67 mustang -the body is smaller then the kits issued back in the 60's --the original kits seemed better -better look and feel of the real car-?? 

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Posted by High octane on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:32 PM

Don't get your hopes up about future releases like this kit or that kit as the industry moves very SLOW on that subject as the very good possiblity of profit must be in the picture for them.

High octane

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Posted by 32bowtie on Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:43 PM

Yes, the first 442! I have been wishing for this for years!

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Posted by Tim Boyd on Friday, March 13, 2020 5:16 PM

Dwights55

Although I have an original unbuilt kit, I will be in line for the new one. Any release dates, or is it to far in the future?

 Dwight....no official date that I've heard but it showed up on the advance order lists of wholesalers last week, which under normal circumstances might mean sometime this summer.  With this release having major new tooled parts, though, I wouldn't be my life on that timing....TIM 

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Posted by jkitman on Saturday, April 4, 2020 8:42 AM

I think it is a good way to make use of existing tooling and save tooling costs. Of course,  they could also issue the Streaker body too. I wouldn't  mind that at all. Ive always wondered what has happened to all of the Tom Daniel designed kits? Kits like the Sand Crab  were modified to make the Lil' Van. I never liked the Lil  Van but I'd love to have the Sand Crab. Seems they could save some money by modifying the tool and reissuing the Sand Crab, as opposed to creating a completely new tool of the Sand Crab. I realize Tom would wants some royalties,  but hey, pay the man. He designed some cool stuff. But Im partial to the crazy show cars and such of the 60s and 70's.  It was a unique time in automotive history. 

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Posted by jkitman on Monday, April 6, 2020 8:30 PM

Hey Tim. Do you know who has the old Johan tools now? I sure wish they would reissue some of that stuff. Sorry, I know my question  has nothing to do with this post, but I wasn't sure how to reach you. 

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Posted by midnightprowler on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:19 AM

Oakey Spaulding was the last person I know of to have any Johan tooling.

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Posted by Tim Boyd on Friday, April 10, 2020 12:22 PM

J....Big mystery on this....the Okey Spaulding news above seems to be the consensus view, but apparently what he got was not usable due to a variety of issues.  I wouldn't count on seeing Jo-Han kits reissued in the future....TIM 

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Posted by 250KQuestion on Friday, May 1, 2020 6:03 AM
There are kits ones released by Jo-Han which certainly are worth copying, but the whole thing Jo-Han thing became toxic, and I'm sure if anyone would try to copy be it in part or as a whole, someone will come out of the woodwork to sue.
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Posted by gwaltz on Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:05 PM

Thanks Tim, I've read your articles for many years, and really enjoyed your work. I still think your gassers and hot rods are remarkable replicas of contemporary trends and beautiful as well. So thanks for your work and dedication to our hobby. 

Gregory S. Waltz
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Posted by Metalbender on Saturday, August 8, 2020 8:50 AM

Hey Tim;

 I'm waiting. I useta own one of the real ones, for a whole year. The warehouse that stored cars for military in San Diego caught fire and Burned down. All wood building, none of the cars had Gasoline in them but they were so much crispy debris. Including my poor defensless Oldsmobubble!

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