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Postings of questions in wrong areas
Posted by Mkowa PhD on Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:49 PM

Maybe I've been here too long or just getting cantankerous BUT I see many questions about certain things in Builders Corner AND each of the Community subjects that would be better placed in the correct areas!

There are sub categories for 'Where Can I Get' and 'Did They Ever Make' where these questions should be posted. Just today, I see on Factory stock area, a person asking where he can find a 'early 90's Regal.' I thought that he made one from a Promo from the way the title suggested. I'm not picking on any one person, but it seems that these type of questions could be better utilized in the correct areas.

Just a suggestion...oops, I'm late for my testosterone injection! Sorry, I just get a bit b*tchy at timesLaugh

-Mike

* Please Note-I do not sell any of my built or unbuilt kits-Thank you.* Yes, I am a PROUD PARENT OF A U.S. MARINE! (currently-9-11-09-BACK in the USA!) http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/mkowa/
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Posted by BigTallDad on Monday, August 24, 2009 2:14 AM

Mkowa PhD

Maybe I've been here too long or just getting cantankerous BUT I see many questions about certain things in Builders Corner AND each of the Community subjects that would be better placed in the correct areas!

Be careful Mike, or you will inherit my "Forum Cop" mantle. 

While on the topic of placing questions in the correct areas, let us not overlook placing models in the wrong areas. I was a high-hormoned 21 year old when the muscle car era dawned, and it irks me to see a model that is not a true muscle car being displayed in that category; a '55 Chevy, regardless of the engine, is not and never will be a muscle car.

"In order to teach a dog, you must first be smarter than the dog" P.R. Ferguson

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Posted by ONEOFFCONCEPTS on Monday, August 24, 2009 9:28 AM

More than likely the reason is the serious downfall of this forum.  It seems to me that you are extremelly unlikely to get your question answered in those areas.  Also the same with posting in other areas, a 55 chevy is close enough to a muscle car to me and the only likely place you will get responses.  It seems lately unless you are a hardcore regular no one responds to your post, leading people to post in different places.  Just like I build alot of tuners and lowriders, but if the vehicle is a modern muscle or a truck I will place them in either the muscle or truck sections as the tuner section rarely gets replies.  Honestly there is more than enough people that if there were other nicely structured model sites, this one would go nearly dead.  I would only look for things to get worse before better.  I can remember when I first started here no matter where you post you got replies, unless we get back to that this forum is just going to get worse, and the more complaining we do the less people are going to want to come to this furom.  Mkowa PhD you ae a very respected person in here and you where able to nicely plead your case, and I can respect that.  BTD complaing about someone posting a 50s chevy in muscle cars that way is only going to anger others (especially the poster) and lead to less and less activity on these boards.  Don't get me wrong BTD you are also a respected person on here, but as I said any negativity in these forums can be extremely bad, as many people have left athe forums already.

 Forthermore this forum is soppuse to be a community which it was at one time.  If you honestly want to see things change for the better than we most become a community again.  Just think how you would feel if you are a new builder and just finished your first true model (or atleast your first nicely done model), you post it on here and no one rreplies to your post.  That would not feel so good and make you care about this forum or so much about building.  On the other hand you get a bunch of good jobs, nicely done, or even some good advise on it, then you would fell proud of your work and like you really did something right and good, leading to more interaction in the site, more building, and all around good feelings.  I mean honestly with my builds I could care less what most think, as I have been building for nearly 20 years, but it is still aggrevating to post something and rarely get a reply even though someone else post nearly the same thing and gets three or four paes.  But there are some like space cowboy and bossolini that have just great ideas and work that of course they will get more attention.  Sorry about the little rant but it has bothered me for sometime.

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Posted by BigTallDad on Monday, August 24, 2009 11:36 AM

ONEOFFCONCEPTS

  BTD complaing about someone posting a 50s chevy in muscle cars that way is only going to anger others (especially the poster) and lead to less and less activity on these boards. 

When I first joined, I was as guilty of mis-posting as the next person; note the '55 Chev in the Muscle Car section. I've tried to correct the error in my ways.

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Posted by ONEOFFCONCEPTS on Monday, August 24, 2009 2:38 PM

Oh I understand what you are saying, it was a big problem before with people complaining about "misplaced post" to which has led to a serious downfall in this forum.  I wasn't really trying to call you out or put you down personally, as I said you too are a respected person in  this forum, but just the people that attack people that mispost when in others eyes it is close enough, is really causing problems in here.  Like I said I will "mispost" if I feel it is a close call and it will get more attention.  I can see the point where someone post something like 1957 belair in lets say muscle cars and the post reads "I am looking for" that does get agrevating.  And those people should either be nicely told to try where can I find.  Or if they have they should atleast change their post title to tell people they are looking for something and maybe mention they had no replies in the where can I find area.  Me personally I go where ever I feel will be more helpful.  I do fully understand the aggrevation of mispost, but on the opposite side is the aggrevation and time wasted properly placing and getting no replies.  To be honest for me personally I do get into this forum to help me get into building, and when I spend weeks or more on something than think hey I should get this on here  Then spend the time to upload pics to the comp, then to photobucket, then type my post and add the pics, just to get no responce.  It honestly has made me put some projects away.  I honestly don't care what people think but replies do equal motivation or more so I post to get ideas of which way to go no replies=no ideas and so it sits.  With that said if i feel I will get more replies in another area even if it borderlines dang right I will.  Again sorry if it seems I tried to hijack your post but it all fits in with what I feel you are trying to get at.  And sorry BTD if you felt I was attacking you, not at all, and I appolagize if so

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Posted by ONEOFFCONCEPTS on Monday, August 24, 2009 2:46 PM

Sorry BTD I just looked at your attachment link, I thought you were complaing about misplaced, but I noticed that you have the chevy topic your where speaking of.  Duh I feel dumb and embarassed....lol.  By the way nice build and if it can beat a muscle car then it itself is a muscle car to me.

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Posted by Mkowa PhD on Monday, August 24, 2009 4:42 PM

There have been SO many views of Muscle Cars, that I have 'given in!' When the term Muscle Car was invented in 1964, when a writer termed it for the NEW GTO, it was meant as a mid sized car, with the biggest engine available. Now, even Hemmings places cars like the Maverick with a 302 2barrel or a Marauder X-100 even, in its issues! Those were NEVER a MUSCLE CAR! However, the term has been bastardized throughout time that even 'Ol Doc has come to placing my HEMI powered SUPRA in the Muscle Car category! Heck, everything else is in that category, so go with the flow! An as another member stated, if you put it in Tuners and Lowridder category where it SHOULD go, no one views it! I also get a kick out of the extreme MOPAR contingent on thi site. If you post a 70 Chevelle SS or a Ford anything, it goes unnoticed...but put MOPAR anything in the heading and everyone goes nuts!Laugh If Chrysler really ahd that many followers, they would not be going through bankruptcy now! Just funny, not a complaint!

Now, the real bone of my contention: A few years ago, I wanted to sell a Testors 1/72 scale AC-130 on E-bay. I had no idea what the possible price should be. The kit was about 15 years old. I went onto an Armor/aircraft site and spent a few hours looking around. Why? I didn't want to anger any of the 'old timers' by placing my question in an area that was incorrect! I also wanted to make sure it got the most exposure as possible in the correct area! I familiarized myself with all of its categories.

Now, it seems that no one looks around this site to see what is available and to actually place the correct posting where it belongs. I know tht most of these posters have a low posting # and are new members, BUT if you have a question about anything...there IS a correct place to put it! So many questions about "where can I get this or that" or "Is there a model of this or that" has a place for it! It doesn't go in Trucks, Muscle Cars or Factory Stock! I know BTD has been shunned and cursed for acting like the Forum Cop, but dang it, look around...don't just post things in any ol' place!

Yeah, maybe I'm going over the top on this rant, but it does 'irk' me. There are an awesome bunch of new talent to this site. I don't want to put anyone off becasue of this rant, but too much of the OLD TALENT has left. I still consider this site to be the foremost area for model builders, just becasue of it's notoriety in the scheme of plastic model cars and trucks. Another site with a magazine is also a great site, much of the old talent has gone there or other places. However, the International talent is still here!

Oh dang, there goes my estrogene level, it peaked again!Laugh

-Mike

* Please Note-I do not sell any of my built or unbuilt kits-Thank you.* Yes, I am a PROUD PARENT OF A U.S. MARINE! (currently-9-11-09-BACK in the USA!) http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/mkowa/
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Posted by ONEOFFCONCEPTS on Monday, August 24, 2009 6:07 PM

Yeah I seen that supra it fit for the most part and yeah it wouldn't have got very much attention.  But yeah you know you have a point about the mopars whats with that.  Well mopars and pretty much anything by bossolini or space cowboy.  Those two are a duh though, but I'd rahter see the chevys than mopars.  I will agree the obvious misplaced do kinda irk me too.  Like your point when you think you're going to be looking at uncommon build than it turns out to be where can I find.  I had that problem too I got all excited by the title and it turn out to be someone looking for a model of that car.  If they would have put it in their title I probably would have wasted my time looking at it unless I knew of one.

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Posted by BigTallDad on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:15 AM

If you look at Craig's List items, there is an option to flag a posting as "Miscategorized"; I wonder if that could be done on this forum.

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Posted by plasti-shack on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:31 AM

Here's my $.02.

I think the catagories are to vague/confusing/redundant and therefore can be taken many ways. If I were to build a stock GTO, what section do I put it in ? Does it belong in the Muscle Car section or the Factory Stock section ? Another observation is that SAE lists Mustangs, Cudas and Camaros under the Muscle Car heading.  They are all cool, I like them all, some were fast as stink but they are not Muscle Cars, they are Pony Cars. Challengers, Novas, Cougars, Firebirds, Falcons and Mavericks are all in the same catagory (predicament ?). All of those cars a very often seen in the Muscle Car section which makes things kinda confusing.

Perhaps new "Modeling Subject" catagories could be the answer...

My suggestion(s) would be,

Hot Rod-would include any modified 1948-older street cars and pickups.

Street Machine-would include any modified 1949-newer street cars and pickups.

Factory Stock-would include anything built as "bone stock" vehicles. This would include muscle cars, ponycars, mainstreamers and pickups. Everything from Model A's & T's to Z-28's.

Tuners and Lowriders-self explanitory.

Drag Race Cars-self explanitory.

Non Drag Race Cars-self explanitory.

Commercial Vehicles & Trucks-would include all types of commercial vehicles, including big rigs.

Motorcycles-self explanitory.

Other Models-self explanitory.

Diorama-self explanitory.

I believe this format would really make mis-placed posts a thing of the past and may also even out some of the activity/traffic in certain areas.

I don't think there is anything you can do about the stray "where can I get" postings in the "Modeling Subjets" catagories. It seems to be very typical for new members to put those type of posts on. Given time, they will find the proper place to post those things.

 

Toss that stupid diecast in the recycle bin and build something !

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